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Retronauts Podcast Thread
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If you don't think Scramble was influenced you should watch my video of Astro Bomber for the Epoch Game Pocket Computer
Just wait end level fanfare.
Just wait end level fanfare.
And still we love it ¬_¬
I've always been a huge Retronauts fans and I've enjoyed the current episodes but I wish they were as structured as the older episodes used to be. The last couple of episodes haven't been as chronologically tight. The tone is definitely more laid back. I don't want to sound like I'm complaining though because I have enjoyed the new Retronauts overall..
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I think there was a thought about how influential Star Wars might have been, but then they sort of realized that it really isn't that influential. Given that Star Wars basically cribbed a lot of film and, if you agree with the Campbell interpretation of the films, a lot of mythology as well... things like killing a father and all that is just something that's part of the general fabric of culture.
Like, you might as well say Hamlet or Oedipus is influential in video game storytelling at that point.
And I agree, any Retronauts is better than no Retronauts... but it sort of makes sense why this was a mini/pocket episode and not part of the "main" series.
Also, I know that they're running out of topics, and I know that no one on the staff cares or knows about PC games (poor Sharkey), but I kind of wish that someone would do a BBS door game episode, because it really is one of those retrogaming topics that no one really talks about.
Well, that and the fabled Satellaview episode that people keep wanting to see. lol
soxinthebox
Member
It was a pretty disappointing discussion this week. Why didn't they talk about Star Wars games themselves rather than focusing on games that may have been influenced by it? Is there some older episode that directly covers Star Wars?
Thought there was a lot of room to talk about the SNES era and N64/PS1 games since there is a fair amount of them.
Thought there was a lot of room to talk about the SNES era and N64/PS1 games since there is a fair amount of them.
JoeyJungle
Banned
So I was listening to an episode the other week and I heard them mention a JRPG for the N64 that was really good, that wasn't Ogre Battle 64, Paper Mario, and definitely wasn't Quest 64. It was just mentioned in passing, and everyone else on the cast went "Oh yeah, that game's great". I think it was probably the Quintet episode (even though Quintet didn't make any n64 games), the fan translation episode, or the golden age of japanese games episode.
Anyone have any idea what it was?
Edit:
I think either it's Hybrid Heaven or I made it all up.
Anyone have any idea what it was?
Edit:
I think either it's Hybrid Heaven or I made it all up.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I wonder if Ray or maybe Jeremy ever think about doing a pocket episode on Game Center CX...at first I thought it would be hard to pull off a retrospective in audio form since you really need visuals to appreciate the show, but so much has been going on with it lately because of the 10th anniversary of the show with the Budokan show and the movie and new 3DS game, and Ray (and I think Jeremy) are such fans of the show that I bet a pocket show would suit it well.
Retronauts Vol. III Episode 11 is up.
Retronauts Vol. III Episode 11 - The History Of Video Game Voice Acting
I'm listening now, and it is a good one so far.
Retronauts Vol. III Episode 11 - The History Of Video Game Voice Acting
I'm listening now, and it is a good one so far.
Sorry old man Jeremy, but everyones first encounter with Tim Curry is Home Alone 2.
Also shame on Bob and Ray for not bringing up Muppets Treausre Island to coax out Kermitt Voice. Guest backer tried to get Jeremy to do Toad voice and he didn't bite but he probably would have caved for Kermit.
Also shame on Bob and Ray for not bringing up Muppets Treausre Island to coax out Kermitt Voice. Guest backer tried to get Jeremy to do Toad voice and he didn't bite but he probably would have caved for Kermit.
soxinthebox
Member
Don't recall the episode but the only one you missed was Aiden Chronicles and it definitely wouldn't be that so Hybrid Heaven seems like a good guess.
A little aside to this voiceover episode.
Sega's Street's of Rage had the character Blaze throw fireballs with a little soundbyte calling out the name of the attack. I think it was supposed to sound like Kikousho which was the name of the attack.
Was in Mexico and playing it with cousins and they all started laughing every time someone used her fireball and she yelled out the move. I was entirely confused as to why the hell they'd laugh at a poorly sampled sound when one of them explained...
Kikousho as it sounded in the game sounded awfully similar to joto due to the poor sampling. Like when that was explained and I heard the sound effect again, I was shocked. My aunt even came in as we were playing and the sound effect went off and she was just as shocked, asking why the hell the game said that and that we should stop playing.
Joto basically means faggot in Spanish. So there you go...
Sega's Street's of Rage had the character Blaze throw fireballs with a little soundbyte calling out the name of the attack. I think it was supposed to sound like Kikousho which was the name of the attack.
Was in Mexico and playing it with cousins and they all started laughing every time someone used her fireball and she yelled out the move. I was entirely confused as to why the hell they'd laugh at a poorly sampled sound when one of them explained...
Kikousho as it sounded in the game sounded awfully similar to joto due to the poor sampling. Like when that was explained and I heard the sound effect again, I was shocked. My aunt even came in as we were playing and the sound effect went off and she was just as shocked, asking why the hell the game said that and that we should stop playing.
Joto basically means faggot in Spanish. So there you go...
firehawk12
Subete no aware
New episode is out.
Retronauts Pocket Episode 11: Number Munchers, Oregon Trail, And More Educational Treasures from Minnesota
The site also has links to the history of MECC, a documentary from 1996 about Oregon Trail on YouTube and a link to a Tombstone Pizza commercial on YouTube.
Retronauts Pocket Episode 11: Number Munchers, Oregon Trail, And More Educational Treasures from Minnesota
The site also has links to the history of MECC, a documentary from 1996 about Oregon Trail on YouTube and a link to a Tombstone Pizza commercial on YouTube.
saveweyard
Banned
If anyone was interested by the discussion in Retronauts Pocket episode 1 - Progressive Rock, I wrote up something for my Introduction to World Music course looking at just this topic (the episode was a big inspiration).
Specifically I look at a few tracks by Nobuo Uematsu and Koji Kondo and a handful of progressive rock tracks. Enjoy!
Specifically I look at a few tracks by Nobuo Uematsu and Koji Kondo and a handful of progressive rock tracks. Enjoy!
Rocky Horror for me.
My mom made me watch Rocky Horror when it aired on TV for the first time which I believe was the year after Home Alone 2.
New episode is up: Wrestlenauts!
I have it it's own thread. It deserves it(plus you guys probably don't want tons of wrestling gifs here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=93812113
I have it it's own thread. It deserves it(plus you guys probably don't want tons of wrestling gifs here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=93812113
Just started listening to Retronauts. It's mostly enjoyable but I'm really disappointed about how much they get wrong or ignore. It's also super, super S/NES centric to the point of near-myopia.
I was listening to the live show at the Portland game convention and one of the guys said that the 32X is on par with the Sega CD, that they only have about three good games each. Nobody even tried to correct that ridiculous proclamation.
I get pretty worked up listening to this. I don't think I should continue.
I was listening to the live show at the Portland game convention and one of the guys said that the 32X is on par with the Sega CD, that they only have about three good games each. Nobody even tried to correct that ridiculous proclamation.
I get pretty worked up listening to this. I don't think I should continue.
BoosterDuck
Banned
If anyone wants to listen to Dave Rudden and Henry Gilbert's Cheap Popcast show:
No, I meant the Sega CD has a ton of awesome software that greatly outstrips the 32X. I can understand someone not liking the 32X, but putting the Sega CD on par with it and saying they're both crappy? Criminal.
For the record, there's also Knuckles Chaotix, Tempo, Virtua Racing Deluxe and a unique version of Blackthorne.
Someone's got to help out the ridiculous 16-bit imbalance. I'm also all about the PC Engine these days.
You can't help what you played as a kid with limited resources but eventually you grow up and branch out.
charlequin
Banned
IrishNinja
Member
nah, i'm callin BS - retronauts is awesome, and Bob, Parish, Kohler etc are crazy konwledgable with lots of things from Atari to arcades etc, but they've freely admitted they're not "sega guys" and the times they've had to speak even on more popular scenes like the Genesis, it's been kind've a letdown as they don't seem to know much stuff outside the most popular series (Sonic, SOR etc). compare it to NES/SNES and it's glaringly obvious, they just kinda recite memes about Sega-CD software (its all FMV!), genesis sound chip ("robot farts!") etc which is fine for forum stuff like around here, but when you get them on about elements of the early PCE scene where they legitimately know stuff from dev history to composers, etc...i mean that's what i tune in for. they're entertaining but i also tend to learn stuff from certain eps too which is awesome.
not trying to shit on them at all, i totally understand when they bring in another guy for the Neo Geo scene for example - but yeah, when they're one of the more respectable faces for classic gaming info it's a bummer to have such a huge scene kinda glossed over. their Dreamcast ep i remember being pretty fun, Sega franchise (2 eps) was neat too - but Mzo absolutely has a point that their 8/16 bit era talk (and knowledge) is highly nintendo-centric.
worse when you were half expecting a 3D sonic game...i was just reading on eidolon's inn how the pic they used in some mag or another actually came from one of their amusement park things in the day, man that's some shit right there haha
not trying to shit on them at all, i totally understand when they bring in another guy for the Neo Geo scene for example - but yeah, when they're one of the more respectable faces for classic gaming info it's a bummer to have such a huge scene kinda glossed over. their Dreamcast ep i remember being pretty fun, Sega franchise (2 eps) was neat too - but Mzo absolutely has a point that their 8/16 bit era talk (and knowledge) is highly nintendo-centric.
Chaotix was not good, man.
worse when you were half expecting a 3D sonic game...i was just reading on eidolon's inn how the pic they used in some mag or another actually came from one of their amusement park things in the day, man that's some shit right there haha
ToastyFrog
Inexplicable Treasure Hate
What the butt? 32X is a piece of crap, but I've written pretty extensively about how much great material there was on Sega CD, up to and including a pretty broad apologia for the system more than a year ago: http://www.2-dimensions.com/2012/10/14/gamespite-journal-12-rethinking-sega-cd/
IrishNinja
Member
^bookmarked! totally got some stuff to read tonight, thanks for that man.
ive admittedly been working my way through classic retronauts stuff & may've missed segments, did you guys ever cover much on the Saturn?
ive admittedly been working my way through classic retronauts stuff & may've missed segments, did you guys ever cover much on the Saturn?
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Good show Jeremy. Almost no one remembers Panic. I was never sure how much of that nonsense was localization and how much was the original content. It honestly seemed like it was localized by someone who didn't speak Japanese, who would just try to infer some sort of audio skit directly from the Monty Pythonesque animations. So weird.
Sonic CD and Snatcher, of course.
I'd add Eternal Champions: Challenge from the Dark Side, a weirdly fascinating adventure game version of Jurassic Park, a weirdly fascinating adventure/RTS hybrid version of Dune, and pretty much any Genesis game that was way better with redbook audio, including both Ecco games, Road Rash, and Mortal Kombat, personally.
charlequin
Banned
This whole debate was worth it to get me this link. Thanks!
this one is true though
First of all robot farts are awesome sounding.
Second of all, no. Sakimoto mannnnnnnn!
And I never even owned a Genesis!
IrishNinja
Member
it really isn't though, and i'm starting to believe it has to do with the fact that post Sonic 1 (1991) i wanna say they pushed the model 2 out in much bigger #'s which was known to have an inferior sound chip, as that's the only reason i can assume that description took off.
Chaotix was not good, man.
It was INTERESTING. It wasn't really all that good, no.
IrishNinja
Member
i really gotta try that one again sometime, need to work on my 32X first...the bungee stuff seemed overly prevalent but the other thing that stood out in my mind was that some areas of the levels just felt...empty. i got the impression it was rushed, later found out it was some demo/proto thing they'd been kicking around the office before putting everyone onto Sonic Xtreme and somehow not delivering it in the end...im gonna go read up at Eidolon's Inn now.
I guess you weren't there that day. In the Portland Retro Gaming Expo episode, 30 minutes in, someone (I'm bad at keeping track of who is who with only voices) says the 32X fared BETTER in the US than the Sega CD. Someone else calls him out in a half-hearted attempt at defense that includes a mention of Ground fucking Zero: Texas, and the first dude agrees that maybe the Sega CD is not worse than the 32X, but is on par with it.
Nice article, I completely agree with it. Cosmic Fantasy 2 is a Turbo/PC Engine CD game, though.
IrishNinja
Member
it's also got an ending that's perfect
for shitting on your soul
BobbyRobby
Member
Cosmic Fantasy Stories, nice catch, but:
The Article said:
probably not.
Not a big deal at all, shit happens.
soxinthebox
Member
Great episode this week, I haven't really followed wrestling since the late 90's but it was great hearing a guy so passionate about it go through ti with you guys.
Think I'm going to have to try out a few of these Fire Pro games since I've never played any of them.
Think I'm going to have to try out a few of these Fire Pro games since I've never played any of them.
turnbuckle
Member
Excellent article.
Just starting to listen to Wrestlenauts now. Sounds like you have a lot of love for Kraeman haha.
turnbuckle
Member
Just finished listening to wrestlenauts. Excellent episode, probably in my top 20 of all time.
Wrestle Fest is probably my favorite wrestling game ever. I remember being able to kick out of a pin pretty much every time even when I was out of HP. My fingers were spamming those buttons a million miles an hour
Also remember one time going to the arcade and there were two punks who basically cost me all of my tokens within a half hour. Just kept tossing me over the ropes. Bullies
I didn't hear them mention Mat Mania. I was listening while at work so I might've missed it. That's probably the first wrestling game I played. Taito had a couple other wrestling games after it that I remember not liking as much.
I haven't followed wrestling since around 2000, and haven't played wrestling games since about that time either. But this podcast was perfect for me; hit on lots of my favorites.
Wrestle Fest is probably my favorite wrestling game ever. I remember being able to kick out of a pin pretty much every time even when I was out of HP. My fingers were spamming those buttons a million miles an hour
Also remember one time going to the arcade and there were two punks who basically cost me all of my tokens within a half hour. Just kept tossing me over the ropes. Bullies
I didn't hear them mention Mat Mania. I was listening while at work so I might've missed it. That's probably the first wrestling game I played. Taito had a couple other wrestling games after it that I remember not liking as much.
I haven't followed wrestling since around 2000, and haven't played wrestling games since about that time either. But this podcast was perfect for me; hit on lots of my favorites.
charlequin
Banned
Man, I'm so behind. Is it too late to say how much I enjoyed the Japan episode?
i wouldn't actually say "robot farts" exactly myself, but you're never gonna win me over to the idea that the genesis sound chip isn't generally worthy of scorn
i wouldn't actually say "robot farts" exactly myself, but you're never gonna win me over to the idea that the genesis sound chip isn't generally worthy of scorn
ToastyFrog
Inexplicable Treasure Hate
Eh, it's easy to miss the mark with an off-the-cuff remark in a live situation. I've certainly done it. Please don't base your opinion of a podcast on a live panel for which the full team wasn't even present!
I also agree that the Genesis sound chip often amounts to robot farts, but I actually find that charming. I dig FM synthesis. It still sounds like the future to me.
Next time you get a chance in an episode, can you give a brief description as to what the different types of sound generation actually mean (FM Synthesis etc.) They are mentioned in the music episode, but what makes them so different?
I've heard enough shows to cement the feeling that the series is heavily Nintendo-centric.
I still like it. You guys are knowledgeable to the point that I tend to learn at least one new thing an episode and it's clear that everyone there loves video games, even if they haven't all outgrown the irrational bias implanted into their brain by a certain company's propaganda machine during their impressionable youth.
I listened to the Double Dragon episode of the old series the other day at the gym; I think people kept looking my way because I kept yelling "NO!" It was a bit of a surprise no one was familiar with the arcade game, but it came as no surprise at all that no one had any knowledge of the SMS version (which is bad).
Bob Mackey's hatred of Renegade is terrible. The NES port is great. You can punch, kick, grab, throw, dash, dash punch, jump kick, sit on dudes and beat them down, ride a motorcycle, etc. It's way ahead of its time. I listened to the Kunio-kun episode and was surprised at how much trouble everyone talking had playing the game. I tried it again and beat it in a couple of hours that afternoon. Oh well.
I still like it. You guys are knowledgeable to the point that I tend to learn at least one new thing an episode and it's clear that everyone there loves video games, even if they haven't all outgrown the irrational bias implanted into their brain by a certain company's propaganda machine during their impressionable youth.
I listened to the Double Dragon episode of the old series the other day at the gym; I think people kept looking my way because I kept yelling "NO!" It was a bit of a surprise no one was familiar with the arcade game, but it came as no surprise at all that no one had any knowledge of the SMS version (which is bad).
Bob Mackey's hatred of Renegade is terrible. The NES port is great. You can punch, kick, grab, throw, dash, dash punch, jump kick, sit on dudes and beat them down, ride a motorcycle, etc. It's way ahead of its time. I listened to the Kunio-kun episode and was surprised at how much trouble everyone talking had playing the game. I tried it again and beat it in a couple of hours that afternoon. Oh well.
Yes, nailed it. Old school futurism just sounds so so good.