No, instead i'm well overweight and have put up with the exact same shit my entire life.
Well at least you have a choice to change that. People who are gay/bi/trans can't.
No, instead i'm well overweight and have put up with the exact same shit my entire life.
That's exactly what you said.
You tried to say that 2 situations that aren't always easy to avoid that both end up in ridicule, mocking and being treated like general shit aren't comparable because one isn't based on sexual orientation.
Richard Hammond is not a comedian, and what he said is not comedy.
Comedy is an intelligent craft.
Yeah, I'm Finnish myself. That ad has no significant meaning in Finnish ice cream / gay culture that would in a million years "justify" that joke.In the Finnish audience?
That's exactly what you said.
You tried to say that 2 situations that aren't always easy to avoid that both end up in ridicule, mocking and being treated like general shit aren't comparable because one isn't based on sexual orientation.
Yeah, he hosts one of those "Wipeout" style shows and he's just so awkward and unlikable.Richard Hammond isn't, has never been and never will be funny.
This is a man desperate to be considered as funny as his two co-hosts trying desperately to get approval. Here's 'being a celebrity 101' rule no.1 don't make jokes about sexuality. Easy to follow. I don't believe the joke was extremely offensive, just unfunny and inappropriate and it's nothing less than I'd expect from Brummie Napoleon.
Moron.
in't the dynamic that one of them has to say something that is obviously wrong so the the other two can pile on him? They do that for everything.
So apparently not an actual dig at homosexuals or ice cream lovers, but a reference to an infamous Finnish ice cream advert?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Dyjq8jSFQ
Maybe they should avoid throwing oppressed minorities under the bus for the benefit of a joke that isn't even funny next time.in't the dynamic that one of them has to say something that is obviously wrong so the the other two can pile on him? They do that for everything.
Yup. Ever since Hammond joined the TG cast I've hoped he'd leave at some point.Yeah, he hosts one of those "Wipeout" style shows and he's just so awkward and unlikable.
Which is dumb because without all the bullshit it's a good show.I feel like the "joke" was specifically written not to be funny but to stir up controversy and draw attention to the show at any cost. I kinda like TG/GT, but it annoys when they pull shit like this.
I didn't even know it was referencing a Finnish TV advert until now either.
Who is panicking? Or are you just referring to peple on both "sides" of the argument here polishing their own confirmation biases?The bloody hell it was. They were not referencing an obscure finnish tv commercial from six years ago. Hammond is saying he doesn't want to suck on a magnum while driving his car because it's gay. The hell is going on here with people ready to believe anything but the notion that a guy who made jokes about lazy mexicans is currently making jokes about gay panic.
Even after Top Gear exploded globally, they would still use local in-jokes. In almost every episode actually, because the introductions of The Stig were usually references to local news. Also, when interviewed during the press tour for The Grand Tour, they were pretty frequently asked if they would change their content or jokes to appeal internationally, they said they wouldn't because even when Top Gear went international it didn't really make a difference.It's hard for me to believe that the joke was in reference to the commercial posted earlier, when none of the bit even includes Hammond or the other guys referencing that brand or that commercial. And given that the show is being watched globally, it seems - at best - absolutely idiotic to reference such a generally unknown commercial. But *shrug* maybe I'm wrong.
Either way, the joke was bad and like others have pointed out, the crux of it is with Hammond framing homosexuality in a pejorative way. It'd be like someone saying "Yeah, I don't like eating chips. Well, you know... black people like to eat chips. And that's just not for me."
in't the dynamic that one of them has to say something that is obviously wrong so the the other two can pile on him? They do that for everything.
in't the dynamic that one of them has to say something that is obviously wrong so the the other two can pile on him? They do that for everything.
Who is panicking? Or are you just referring to peple on both "sides" of the argument here polishing their own confirmation biases?
Comparing the prejudice people face for being gay to being overweight.
What the fuck...
Amazing isn't it
There are some things you shouldn't joke about, full stop. Especially if they are as tone-deaf and stupid as the one Hammond did.
Get out of here. You don't get too decide what people are and are not allowed say, full stop.
Ofc, but you can equally disapprove if someone makes a joke where the punchline is something someone has no control over (ie ment health, being gay etc).
Oh Mr. Ambassador. With all these Ferraro Shitposts you're really spoiling us.
1) stop wishing harm on him
2) if people are offended and you're not then try and see it from their point of view
3) if you're incapable of (2) then consider the reply button a risky click because you will come off as an asshole
4) I'm sorry you're such horrible people.
That ice cream joke in the trump thread makes sense now.
No one should be surprised, crazy how this guy still gets so much support.
So apparently not an actual dig at homosexuals or ice cream lovers, but a reference to an infamous Finnish ice cream advert?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Dyjq8jSFQ
I still think the worst thing about this is the fact that they made a joke about a straight man not being able to do something that he consders gay (whether as a made up character or what he actually thinks as a real person, doesn't really matter), because "gay things" are viewed as somehow bad/unwanted, not that it was something absurd like not eating ice cream specifically. That still paints a dumb picture of there being things in this world that are too gay for Real Straight Men to do because that would make them seem gay and that is bad, which is a way of thought that causes real issues in the real world and isn't just some "man-babies in an echo chamber being outraged over nothing" SJW problem.He's getting paid a lot of money to make jokes on a TV show. The mass appeal of Top Gear/Grand Tour is its ability to make people laugh. It's him and two other middle aged men playing characters. That's the reality of it - rightly or wrongly.
I am definitely leaning towards the whole purpose of the joke, being the utter absurdity of it (its fucking ice cream!).
It absolutely wasn't smart or witty, but part of me wonders whether this has got so much traction in the press because of who they are, and not what specifically was said (e.g. they're up to their old tricks...!).
That being said, I do hope that we get something a bit more thought out in future, because the show itself is great.
Well Jeremy Clarkson got fired for punching his producer in the face and then people angrily claimed the firing was ridiculous.
Firing someone is not always super evident. You could do what you stated, or you could make someone's life miserable to the point that you force them to quit with subtlety. ¯_(ツ_/¯Not that it's really important, but he wasn't actually fired. They just didn't renew his contract. The intro to the first episode of The Grand Tour makes light of this when it's pointed out that Clarkson is technically the only one of the three that's never been fired.
No way. How is that infamous? I guarantee no one would get the joke in the audience.