Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
pretty much everyone isnt shit without good production..So really you aren't saying anything.. the key is Ricky had the ear for what WILL be hot not what WAS hot...
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Rick Ross is the Boss
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pretty much everyone isnt shit without good production..So really you aren't saying anything.. the key is Ricky had the ear for what WILL be hot not what WAS hot...
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Fake Rick Ross is a bitch.
The real Rick Ross is the actual boss. Fuck that fat guy.
lol Freeway gets a pass because?
No one cares about Freeway in 2012.
And this is the main reason why I don't like mainstream rap in general. The songs are all the same. Too much fake bullshit.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Oh only people who are successful get hated on for things that other people do as well.. gotcha..
Yes? I mean the whole perception of the genre right now is based on how successful one is.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
That's pretty much all of entertainment in general..
But the nit-picking of he doesn't move kilos! Or he isn't the REAL Rick Ross! are just sad...
Bolt Vanderhuge
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I do believe, with all my heart, that DMX really, really, really wants a lap dance.
Ninja Scooter
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Apparently being a harmless rapper makes you a bitch, being a scumbag drug dealer who preyed upon his own community with drugs and murder makes you a "boss".
Hey, I don't care either way. I just find the stigma of hip hop fans that think a lot of these guys did half the things they did very fascinating. And also worth basing whether you enjoy an artist or not. I wonder if half of them knew that 2pac was an actor or that he hung out with Kid N Play.
The mainstream music scene(Which is decreasing all the time thanks to the internet) is based entirely on looks and whatever the producer is doing. I'm surprised they aren't the ones in the spotlight these days, esp with the increased fame for DJ's these days.
However much he wants it for, Mystikal wants it more.
Last year GQ tried and failed to figure out why he is so popular:
The article is actually pretty good and worth a read
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/music/201109/rick-ross-interview-gq-october-2011?currentPage=1
The article is actually pretty good and worth a read
The Faceless Master
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because they didn't put a beat on.
Lol, if you're a harmless rapper, why create the persona that you're a scumbag drug dealer who preyed upon his own community with drugs and murder to sell records? That's not as bad as committing the actual crimes, but surely you can see how that isn't virtuous?
Dr. Dre in the 80s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u31FO_4d9TY#t=0m58
In 00s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crdp30kRG3U#t=2m39
But yeah, I think people have more hate for Rick Ross because of the whole Correctional Officer thing.
In 00s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crdp30kRG3U#t=2m39
But yeah, I think people have more hate for Rick Ross because of the whole Correctional Officer thing.
This would have been the end of the thread if this was the first post
Ninja Scooter
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I'm not speaking about rapper Ross at all, I'm speaking about morons who "idolize" drug dealers. And then you wonder why rappers steal their persona? Cause they know immature fools out there will think it's cool. You think Freeway Ricky Ross is cool and a boss, how are you any different than Rapper Ross?
Joe Pesci made himself a household name by playing a high strung psychopathic mobster. In reality he's super reserved and he loves dogs.
It's entertainment.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Pretty much all the mob actors did.. Pesci, DeNiro, Al.. so on and so on..
Except that, you know, Joe Pesci isn't playing Joe Pesci in his movies. And none of the audience believes that Joe Pesci is a violent mobster. Just based on this thread alone, it's clear that a large segment believes in what these rappers say about themselves, and they send a very negative message to kids that look up to them.
I realize that you were speaking of the drug dealer. I don't think either of them is cool... I'm just trying to say that Rick Ross shouldn't get a free pass, because AFAIK him perpetuating the whole "selling drugs is cool" outlook makes him a bit of an accomplice to people like the real Rick Ross.
A lot people have a fascination for the gangster/drug lifestyle. This is the reason why movies like The Godfather I/II, Scarface, Casino, Goodfellas, etc. or shows like The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc. are so well liked.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
William Leonard Roberts II isn't any different than Joe Pesci in this regard.. He really isn't
If someone thinks that stuff is real then that's their problem. Some people think soap operas and pro wrestling are real, too.
And any parent that lets their kid listen to Rick Ross is dumb. It's not for kids.
This is drifting dangerously close to "music/movies/video games make you do things" territory. Jack Thompson land.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Ninja Scooter
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Anybody who can follow Rick Ross for 2 minutes and not know that he isn't the things he raps about is a sucker. He's a fucking musician. How is he going to have the time and energy to run a drug empire? C'mon son.
Everybody wants to be Nino Brown.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
If I have a multibillion dollar drug empire the first thing I do is release information about how I run it to the general public so it is easier to make a RICO case against me
Ninja Scooter
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Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
How so? Tell me what makes a rapper different than an actor?
Vicetrailia
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Meh, Rick Ross is just another money chaser, whatever it takes.
No dignity, will go straight chameleon just to earn money like so many others.
No dignity, will go straight chameleon just to earn money like so many others.
Oh, he is on the list.
Ninja Scooter
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No they don't. They rap about shit they saw real drug dealers and thugs doing out of their apartment windows. Guys like Biggie and Jay were failed small time dealers who couldn't hack it and smartly used their musical and lyrical skills to make a living. Real drug dealers don't have time to be practicing their lines or writing complex lyrics.
Served time for what? Are you one of those people that think "street cred" is real. Man he was in jail he must be real! He must be so tough and legit! The only reason I put that pic on there is because Lil Wayne took inspiration from "The Carter" from New Jack City and Nino Brown. Again, more inspiration. And the James Gandolfini comparisons are not ridiculous at all. If you want to believe that your favorite rapper is anything more than an actor than you are the naive one. Hell, it's the same thing by proxy. Rappers are inspired and glorify movie and real life mobsters, kids are inspired by those rappers.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Served time after he was a millionaire and for driving around with drugs to party with and a pistol
WanderingWind
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He was a millionaire around the age of 12ish and shot himself, too.
Gangsta...no. No.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Ok, I've already spelled it out, but I'll try to do it again. Bryan Cranston doesn't play himself in Breaking Bad. He plays a character. At the end of his work day, when he goes home to his wife and kids, or when he does an interview for Entertainment Weekly, he doesn't pretend that he's the psychopathic meth cook Walter White. Now Lil Wayne does rap about himself, telling stories of mostly fictitious drug deals and assaults. Now, the thing is, he also has a record to back up the assertion that he does live the life of a thug. He's been arrested for weapons and coke possessions. How is that the same as Joe Pesci or James Gandolfini, I don't know...
Unspeakable Evil
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He gets paid to that. As long as actually doesnt do it he is doing nothing wrong.
If he loses weight, he'll look goofy as hell. Look at Fat Joe.
btw I know a guy that works in a security company and did a lot of concert gigs, and told me that a lot of rappers were very different than their rapper persona. Like Eminem, for example, he was super nice and respectful to everyone. But he told me that Rick Ross kept the persona.
Ninja Scooter
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Lil Wayne does that because he (like 2Pac and countless others before him) stupidly starts to buy into this idea of "street cred" and starts to feel like he has to live out his rap fantasy in order to prove himself to some dumbasses who question how real he is. Somehow, if it turned out that Rick Ross went home to a wife and kids and had a regular, square life away from his rap persona, I doubt people would have LESS of an issue with him. If anything they'd criticize him more. Doesn't make those people any less stupid. If you believe half the shit these guys are saying, take it as gospel, or are inspired by it, you are either A) an idiot or B) a poor kid with shitty parental supervision.
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