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Damn sure.TTP said:You mean like Microtransactions turning into Macrotransactions?
Damn sure.TTP said:You mean like Microtransactions turning into Macrotransactions?
if it works as i detailed above, then i like the idea because it gives me something for free that i normally pay for, and thanks me for being someone that buys something NEW.TTP said:It can work that way too (again, patent says so). We just dont know for sure if that's how it will eventually work. It's all about potential you know
PepsimanVsJoe said:What makes me wonder is that with places like EBgames/Gamestop who tend to gut copies and "test" them. Will simply putting the game in the PS3 automatically register it?
I can only imagine the shitstorm if/when people buy "new" games and they get slapped with the registration fee.
ironichaos said:This would be crap for those of us who can only afford to buy games used.
Pope Benedict XVI said:I don't think Sony gives a toss about people who only by used games, and would be quite happy to take a big smelly dump on them.
PepsimanVsJoe said:Eventually you get used to it.
...So I hear.
Pope Benedict XVI said:I don't think Sony gives a toss about people who only by used games, and would be quite happy to take a big smelly dump on them.
Bebpo said:If that's the ONLY time it is used, I support the idea. Then it basically just becomes like a cd-key for online gaming and maybe some of the profits will be cycled back to the publishers/developers.
Plus free online play is always cool.
Shawn128 said:What if we're just borrowing a game from our friends?
Arde0 said:If you were Sony, MS, or Nintendo...would you care about people who only buy used game?
TTP said:Sony is hosting the whole PS Network and I'm pretty confidend money will go to both Sony and the publisher of a given game just like those Microsoft points you spend to buy stuff on Marketplace go to the publisher and MS as well.
What is unknow (and it will hardly be public) is the percentages.
usb keyboard for the win.Brobzoid said:blargh. I hate registering. ps2's online in europe sucks, you know why? cus they want a shitload of info and it's hell to input.
Core services probably maintained by Sony servers, such as user accounts, friends lists, and perhaps basic matchmaking servers for games. It's still open if it allow devs/pubs to hook their own services in on top of the basic services.sugarhigh4242 said:I thought the whole point of PNP is that Sony has an open system to allow developers to host their own servers on Sony's network.
TheTrin said:If I was a developer, I would ****ing hate people who only buy used games. They're getting to play something I put hard work into without my company or I ever seeing a cent.
So as a writer, would you '****ing hate people' who only read your books at a library, because they were enjoying the fruits of your labor in a way that wasn't earning you money?
If a major publishing company began a drive to eliminate libraries and used book stores so that they would see bigger profits, would you empathize with them, too? It's just strange how things people wouldn't tolerate in other industries suddenly become acceptable, even laudable when the conversation turns to videogames.
This rumor, if true, seems like a way for them to start loving used game buyers, since it would provide Sony a revenue stream from those used game salesPope Benedict XVI said:I don't think Sony gives a toss about people who only by used games, and would be quite happy to take a big smelly dump on them.
Nerevar said:huh, so you could never give a game to someone if you were tired of playing it?
Nerevar said:Hey, at least topics like this let you see the Sony Defense Force in full swing though. "Less consumer rights for me? Great move Sony! Keep it up!"
Your rights as a consumer are the same as ever: buy the product company X makes or don't buy. Are you suggesting that companies should be obligated to support secondhand copies of their product the same way they support their products still in the hands of their original owners?Nerevar said:Hey, at least topics like this let you see the Sony Defense Force in full swing though. "Less consumer rights for me? Great move Sony! Keep it up!"
artful_dodger said:Consumer rights? I'm a developer and would rather see that money in a bonus for the 100 hour weeks and personal sacrifices I endure to get a game finished.
plagiarize said:'slippery slope' is never a valid argument for something like this.
Jack Thompson uses those kind of debating skills.
when and if something is put to a 'bad use' we call them out on it... stop buying. send hate letters... whatever we can do to stop them using it in that bad way. but we'll kill innovation if we step on anything that could POTENTIALLY be used in a bad way before it even gets going.
some microtransactions are over priced and that's a slippery slope? it doesn't follow i'm afraid.
artful_dodger said:Consumer rights? I'm a developer and would rather see that money in a bonus for the 100 hour weeks and personal sacrifices I endure to get a game finished.
here's a thing to think about. when something is overpriced, what happens?Ranger X said:Exactly, there is already some bad use of microtransaction and people isn't calling out. What makes you think they will call out the next thing you will perceive as abusing?
Anything that goes gradually people get used to it. It's the only "splippery slope" that exist. Calling out those practices doesn't mean there is abuse now, it's only prevention, it's calling out that this practice will gradually lead to exageration.
Pope Benedict XVI said:I don't think Sony gives a toss about people who only by used games, and would be quite happy to take a big smelly dump on them.
Razoric said:Haha yeah. EB employees will actually have to buy games now instead of playing them then selling as new. Sounds good to me.
Dunpeal said:Wtf is this, piece of shit devs with their piece of shit games selling them at the same price as the top games, how about that?
How about the fact that games already cost more?
"Oh dev costs" gtfo, most devs games aren't even going to cost half of what top games cost last gen, and you still sell your game at premium. F dev rights.
plagiarize said:here's a thing to think about. when something is overpriced, what happens?
less people buy it or it isn't over priced.
what happened in the wake of the horse armour? price of subsequent content went down, volume of subsequent content went up.
why? because people complained.
people already have complained and we've already seen a reaction to that.
any company, anywhere is in a position to increase their prices on anything... or to start charging for something that was free before.
consumers will either think they're still getting a fair deal or cry out about it and the company will discover they went too far. this has been happening for decades, it will continue to happen even if what you're buying is a few levels in a video game, or the right to play a used game online.
artful_dodger said:You obviously have no clue about this business.
game production costs = Rising.
game retail price = not rising. (even at 59.99 its not enough)
Jeff-DSA said:That's some grade-A bull**** you're trying to push there. If companies are complaining about declining profits, maybe they should stop pricing the mainstream out of gaming. $60 is not a mass-market friendly price tag for any product. Movies make TONS of money on DVD sales at $15-$20 because the buying mainstream can afford to buy many each year.
With a lower price point you'd increase sales of NEW software and the value in buying used would be diminished greatly. Used game stores exist because of developer/publisher greed. Lower the price point, invite more buyers, and kill the need for cheap alternatives.
Jeff-DSA said:That's some grade-A bull**** you're trying to push there. If companies are complaining about declining profits, maybe they should stop pricing the mainstream out of gaming. $60 is not a mass-market friendly price tag for any product. Movies make TONS of money on DVD sales at $15-$20 because the buying mainstream can afford to buy many each year.
With a lower price point you'd increase sales of NEW software and the value in buying used would be diminished greatly. Used game stores exist because of developer/publisher greed. Lower the price point, invite more buyers, and kill the need for cheap alternatives.
Ranger X said:But there is something about movies that people seem to forget:
Most revenues are from Cinemas, not DVD sales. Especially big blockbusters. Videogames don't have such revenue stream beside retail.
Of course profit is more difficult to make with videogames in this case.
Jeff-DSA said:That's why you would want to expand your sales of new games by dropping their price. People won't buy used and 100% of game sales dollars go towards NEW SOFTWARE. Besides, at a much cheaper price, you're going to sell a lot more copies of each game. Impulse buying would be much greater as well. Heck, why would you even rent a game at $7 when you could BUY IT NEW for $20? You probably wouldn't...