ComputerMKII
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Why does Obama not denounce Saudi Arabia?
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Saudi Arabian Blogger Flogged 50 times for insulting Islam
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Guerrillas in the Mist
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Can't wait till we move away from an oil-based economy so we can tell these guys to fuck off.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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Here's a video from a UN Human Rights Council meeting last year where an NGO brought up this guy's case. The Saudi representatives throw their toys out of the pram in response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CakI_sn30xg
And yes, Saudi Arabia is on the UNHRC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CakI_sn30xg
And yes, Saudi Arabia is on the UNHRC.
Also incredibly stupid.
Terra Firma
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People can do whatever they want to their bodies, I guess. They do it out of mourning.
Anyway, here's what 50 lashes actually look like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYS_nduLkdU
Thank you.
I was being sarcastic if you are referring to me.
Sure I mean you can cut your penis off and jump off a building like that Wu Tang affilitate did and I'm not gonna stop you. Be a crazy lunatic, it's your right.
m_shortpants
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What does the flogging consist of? Is it an actual whip?
thank you. But it doesn't really give me a sense of how painful that is.. the guy is taking it like it's nothing. Surely he must be tough as hell?
Saudi Arabia is one country i would never visit. No fucking chance
Terra Firma
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Hey, people still smoke.
And this is why it's ludicrous to expect the average Muslim in the Middle East (and Saudi Arabia especially) to speak out against terrorist attacks. If what they say publicly is even slightly misconstrued as anti-Islam, then the Saudi government and/or jihadi groups will exact swift (and often fatal) justice. The average moderate or progressive Muslim (i.e. most of them) are just as much the victims of extremist Islamic terrorism or overly literal interpretation of the punishments as dictated under Sharia law as anyone else.
m_shortpants
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It looks like it's embarrassing more than anything. Maybe some soreness? Don't know.
Tripolygon
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That's not that bad, I've seen 5 lashes that ripped someones skin off before. When i was in high school, the teachers were cruel.
Interceptor
Banned
Don´t be crazy.
Death penalty for leaving Islam and flogging for insullting Islam obviously have nothing to do with Islam. *Insert random majority buzzword*
If you have a post of someone saying they don't see the death penalty clause in the Koran I'm all ears. Otherwise get out of here with your blatant strawman.
TrojanBlade
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There you go, nothing to do with Islam but to protect their monarchy and paid religious leaders. As usual its about their own agenda and making sure no one rebels against their system. The SA govt is one of the worst and corrupt but that doesn't stop west to use them and keep them in power because you know its helping their agenda. Talk about the blatant hypocrisy.
But if this guy was really guilty of such thing in a "real" Islamic country where all laws of Islam are upheld and there is due diligence and they had a justice system that was not corrupt and they decide some punishment according to their laws, why does it bother everyone. Its their country, its their law, they can implement the laws as they see fit. Imagine some country doing same to a western country 'hey we don't like this and that law, it just doesn't look right to us...change it'. What would be their answer, 'lol mind your own business'.
You Are Viewtiful
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Saudi Arabia needs to be sanctioned until they get their human rights record in order.
Corronchilejano
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Terra Firma
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Lashing in Saudi Arabia is more a punishment of humiliation than it is of pain.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
is there an eta on that?
Doesn't matter. The Saudi's, Qatari's etc are all funnelling their billions into overseas Western investments (namely property). Even if the oil runs dry, they'll maintain relevance and influence via other means.
I remember when the US was about to attack Syria over chemical weapons and people praising Saudi Arabia for being our ally.
Saudi Arabia has pretty much the most inhumane laws in the world. It shouldn't be anywhere close to receiving US support. Dat oil tho
Baki
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You mean Saudi Arabia.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Are they the mafia?
HazySaiyan
Banned
It just shows the world how hypocritical the West really is. We talk about justice, democracy and human rights, but only when it's convenient for us. Makes me sick.
SolidusDave
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As a terrorist living in these godless western countries, it must be nice to have these role model countries to look up to that do the same deeds you do. Not fringe groups of people, whole fucking officially recognized countries.
Should help justifying killing innocent satirists even if the local "moderate" muslim community condemns such actions (but doesn't disagree that the satirists doing something wrong in the first place).
You would think that export dependent nations can be financially pressured into being more lax on their Sharia laws, but I guess they are not in the weaker position to bargain.
Should help justifying killing innocent satirists even if the local "moderate" muslim community condemns such actions (but doesn't disagree that the satirists doing something wrong in the first place).
You would think that export dependent nations can be financially pressured into being more lax on their Sharia laws, but I guess they are not in the weaker position to bargain.
Phantast2k
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Just saw this billboard at a train station.
A thousand lashes for blogging.
Your letter can save his life.
Link to the German campaign which calls for e-mail & mail storming oft the Saudi institutions:
https://www.amnesty.de/urgent-actio...morgen?destination=startseite&linkId=11624718
Report about the first round of lashing:
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/flogging-raif-badawi-saudi-arabia-vicious-act-cruelty-2015-01-09
maquiladora
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Disgusting.
But I just cannot see things changing there anytime soon.
Religions really depress me when I think of all the needless suffering they have caused and still cause to this day. One day in the future, humanity will look back in shame at what we did to ourselves in the name of our beliefs in the tales from old storybooks.
But I just cannot see things changing there anytime soon.
Religions really depress me when I think of all the needless suffering they have caused and still cause to this day. One day in the future, humanity will look back in shame at what we did to ourselves in the name of our beliefs in the tales from old storybooks.
Dreams-Visions
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looked very uncomfortable, but as a black man in America I must admit I pictured something *very* different.
He got what he deserved.
Mohonky
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Key point, 500yrs ago
When the west talks about punishing offenders for offenses of free speech or questioning religion, we call that the dark ages, Saudi calls it whatever day of the week it happens to be.
Good to know you actually support someone being flogged 50 times for insulting some stupid cancerous religion...
Good to know that you now know that I support someone being flogged multiple or numerous times.
Miles Quaritch
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Very heart-warming to see this. Should be worldwide, but everything has to start somewhere.
The fuck? Explain why he got what he deserved. I'm having a very hard time understanding your position.
SapientWolf
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Mohonky
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Phat Michael
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i think your sharply edgy comment will hurt the poor guy more than the whips ever will.
Lol. The US and others have no problem with tyrants as long as they suit there interests.
GAF suddenly lacks humor.
Phat Michael
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how was what you said funny?
chocolate disco
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Do you know that too much depression can kill you? That's I call "needless suffering". Go see a doctor.
RoadHazard
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Are these also extremist "not real Muslims", as people like to say when horrible things are done in the name of Islam? Well, obviously they're extremist. But probably rather mainstream in that region? Fucking stone age barbarians.
DiscoJer
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Then again, when you compare it to the deeds of people who didn't believe in those (the communist regimes in China, Russia, Cambodia. Frances Reign of Terror after the revolution), there's not a whole lot of difference.
Granted, I grew up in the 70s and 80s, but whenever there would be a school fight, a crowd would always gather around. I think part of being a hunting animal, we simply have an attraction towards violence, no different than a cat purring and thrashing its tail when it sees a bird outside a window.
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