Here's a press conference
There's charts
it just started, the speaker is an Asst. DA of the New York district
There's charts
it just started, the speaker is an Asst. DA of the New York district
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Shit just got real - FBI raiding college campuses arresting multiple coaches
- Thread starter Vanillalite
- Start date
Baraka Obama
Banned
I can't begin to tell you how ignorant you are man
Yes, it was very poor. I was in a rush and didn't really think of it.
That is a Nike shop so unless the investigation expands it seems unlikely for Calipari to be involved
edit:
Apparently some Nike guy has been arrested as well
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Just for clarity, there seems to be two corruptions coming to head at once:
Financial Advisor and Agent steering, i.e. the assistant coaches, recruiters, etc., heavily recommended and steered players towards certain Financial Advisors or Agents in exchange for a kickback
and
Bribing players and their families to go to certain schools branded and sponsored by Adidas (or Nike, UA, it seems), with the expectation that they sign with that company once they go pro.
Pretty bonkers.
Financial Advisor and Agent steering, i.e. the assistant coaches, recruiters, etc., heavily recommended and steered players towards certain Financial Advisors or Agents in exchange for a kickback
and
Bribing players and their families to go to certain schools branded and sponsored by Adidas (or Nike, UA, it seems), with the expectation that they sign with that company once they go pro.
Pretty bonkers.
Pattycakes
Banned
My school is Nike so I guess I don't have to worry about the latter, not sure about the former.
I mean, there was a bidding war between Nike and Adidas over a player, so depends on how deep they go down the rabbit hole.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBas...e_thread_fbi_versus_ncaa_coaches_1200_pm_edt/
Game thread on reddit, FBI vs Dirty Coaches.
Pattycakes
Banned
We will see. I doubt Alabama's basketball program would be involved.
Here's the charts in the press conference
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Shady mother fuckers abound
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
This is *just* basketball too. Can guarantee there are football and hockey programs sweating bullets right now.
Pattycakes
Banned
If there is one thing I can conclude already, it is:
RIP Louisville
RIP Louisville
Andodalf
Banned
I don't think that apparel companies care as much about those sports.
Maybe hockey (although I'm really unfamiliar with how juniors and their leagues works) but football boosters aren't as codified as basketball.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
If thats true, oh man
BronsonLee
Member
Holy shit, we'll be feeling the ramifications of this for a while
Did you just say that apparel companies don't care about college football
Did you just say that apparel companies don't care about college football
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
While i could give two pretty cherry fucks less about college godamn ball with the world the way it is right now...
It's gonna be pretty funny to watch this whole thing fuck up some assholes lives. Get on tv and yell at your players and tell your alumni that stayin on the straight and narrow and working hard and remember to thank god when you win that shiny trophy oh yah and also Fuck you, Pay me.
Hope this turns every one of em inside out.
It's gonna be pretty funny to watch this whole thing fuck up some assholes lives. Get on tv and yell at your players and tell your alumni that stayin on the straight and narrow and working hard and remember to thank god when you win that shiny trophy oh yah and also Fuck you, Pay me.
Hope this turns every one of em inside out.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Different deals. Not saying CFB isn't shady hint it is.
Football is different though. You don't (can't) play year round. There isn't anything like AAU. Aparel means less.
It's not the same.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Companies care about programs, but it's less about individuals. Football not really analogous to basketball in that regard.
Shoes matter a ton.
Have you not watched college football? Oregon? Maryland? The many many alternate uniforms? Sponsership logos on every uniform?
Don't mean nearly as much as sneakers do.
Andodalf
Banned
Nothing compared to Basketball Shoe deals.
Pattycakes
Banned
Yeah, apparently NCAA had no idea about this.
Holy shit.
This is going to be chaos.
Holy shit.
This is going to be chaos.
Yeah, good point. I see what Andodalf and you mean now. Football corruption is probably less centralized than this. Usually boosters, alumni, coaches, and individual agents acting more independantly.
cartographer
Member
There's tons of money in that, but you don't have speculation about whether a 17-year-old football player is going to be a Nike / Jordan / Adidas athlete, at least not with as much regularity or as much of a spotlight being put on it. Apparel companies care about signing football players, but they really, really care about signing basketball players.
DudeWithNoName
Member
Under Armor execs are high fiving as we speak.
Hari Seldon
Member
The g-men can be sneaky when they want to be lol.
IggyChooChoo
Member
Speaking as a Louisivillian with a vested interest in U of L's success, I'm not saying we wouldn't deserve it. But it does worry me that it will enable Governor Bevin to further attacking the University, one of the few powerful countervailing institutions in the state. Also it enrages me to think we might get a worse punishment than Penn State. Goddamn these corrupt coaches.
Thanks for the breakdown! I'm a bit stupid, so I was stuck trying to figure out how it all fit together. Knowing that there's two separate types of corruption going on here makes it a whole lot easier to understand.
habithipster
Member
"Shit just got real"? Come on.
Yeah, Bevin seems to be a complete scumbag, I hope you guys fight him off there.
Lol.
If youre in the sports apparel business and dont know about this shady shit, youre straight up lying.
BronsonLee
Member
OH HELL I forgot about the shoes
Holy shit seems to be the correct response here, they got caught with their pants down
'WE'RE THE LEAST GUILTY~!'
lulz @ the NCAA not knowing until today
The Albatross
Member
Apparel companies care about college football, but much less than basketball, even in the pros. This is why the biggest apparel deals in the NFL was Odell Beckham's 5yr/$25m Nike deal from this year, while Lebron James has a rumored $1billion deal with Nike, and Jordan's deal with Nike is rumored at $100m/year. Of course, Lebron and Jordan are the two biggest names in the sport, while Beckham is one of many names in the NFL, but even for the biggest name in football like Tom Brady, his under armor deal doesn't even register results in Google in dollar amounts.
Like, football is still big money... But basketball apparel with shoes is just much, much greater. For apparel, it's a much more marketed sport, and people associate individual players with brands far more. Nobody really knows what shoes, jersey, pads, helmet, etc., Antonio Brown wears, but everybody knows what shoes the major stars in the NBA wear, and they associate those people with those brands. This transcends into college too and go back decades, as everybody knew how the Fab Five dressed, what shoes they wore, how they wore their clothes, and they provoked a major change in athletic fashion... as 18 and 19 year olds.
Robot Pants
Member
FBI probably made it a point to not inform the NCAA until today. Covers all their bases to make sure no leaks occur
College basketball and the AAU infrastructure specifically has been the most corrupt of college sports for a very long time.
College Football has problems, but that is much less codified and comes down to big money donors often making one-off side deals with recruits families and not the college programs directly getting involved in brokering deals or having these sorts of formal systems in place.
The closest college football came (outside of the SMU days) was Chip Kelly and Oregon paying handlers as "recruiting analysts" 10s of thousands of dollars to grab top flight athletes from Texas. In that case, my guess is Nike was probably floating those checks.
Most college football cheating are rich alums trying to "help the team" or agents trying to steer individual athletes (Reggie Bush) and much less this kind of systemic issue. I'm honestly not surprised this is going down.
Patino survived having sex with a waitress in a restaurant and a prostitution recruiting scandal. He'll probably survive this.
College Football has problems, but that is much less codified and comes down to big money donors often making one-off side deals with recruits families and not the college programs directly getting involved in brokering deals or having these sorts of formal systems in place.
The closest college football came (outside of the SMU days) was Chip Kelly and Oregon paying handlers as "recruiting analysts" 10s of thousands of dollars to grab top flight athletes from Texas. In that case, my guess is Nike was probably floating those checks.
Most college football cheating are rich alums trying to "help the team" or agents trying to steer individual athletes (Reggie Bush) and much less this kind of systemic issue. I'm honestly not surprised this is going down.
Patino survived having sex with a waitress in a restaurant and a prostitution recruiting scandal. He'll probably survive this.
Guileless
Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
The NCAA was too busy with a five year investigation into Ole Miss football coaches letting players sleep on their couches for a night.
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked