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Silent Hill arcade? Tekken 6 to be shown tomorrow?

ssoass said:
I don't see the problem with SH: Arcade.
It's just a little arcade excursion, has nothing to do with the main series, and SH5 won't have anything to do with.
It doesn't take anything away from the SH name, imo.


it's the second bad game after Silent Hill 3 :/ We need some Cure >o<.
 
Arcade version always comes first so the possible problems with char-balance and move-sets can be adjusted for consoles.

- Tekken hasn't had meaningful character additions since T3, imo, and T6's newbies don't look to be changing that trend.

I agree in some point. The T3 roster is legendary and somewhat the core of Tekken series. Including Kazuya ofcourse. Raven and Feng dont feel so at place but Asuka did naturally due the obvious links to Jun. I Like Dragunov and Lili very much too, but they feel pretty separated from the main roster.

Zafina looks like crap to me. I always hated Christie in T5 (Eddy rules!) and she feels like a copy of her. The hemo gay Leo in the ohter hand feels and looks great to me. We now have two Gaylords in Tekken! Wohoo... (Lee is the other)


I know that i will buy this shit ofcourse some day, but today is the day of mourning. Maybe T7 will show us the next-gen of Fighting.
 
zoukka said:
Arcade version always comes first so the possible problems with char-balance and move-sets can be adjusted for consoles.


Not really. They are usually the same. In fact with T5 the arcade version was later updated to T5.1 after the PS2 one was already out.
 
Tekken 6 was a big disappointment - I totally agree with Bebpo, it's definitely the worst looking of the big 3 - it really needs work on the textures, lighting, animation & the stages look kinda empty...It seems that Japanese devs have serious problems with the next-gen hardware. :(
 
Gaijin To Ronin said:
I can feel how developers are looking your post and laughing at you.

Probably, and the sad thing is, I´m thinking of a big "Finish Him!" in huge blinking letters in the middle of the screen. Thanks Konami.
 
zoukka said:
I agree in some point. The T3 roster is legendary and somewhat the core of Tekken series. Including Kazuya ofcourse. Raven and Feng dont feel so at place but Asuka did naturally due the obvious links to Jun. I Like Dragunov and Lili very much too, but they feel pretty separated from the main roster.

The Tekken 3 roster just builds on what Tekken 2 started, though. It also only got a few new characters.

Zafina looks like crap to me. I always hated Christie in T5 (Eddy rules!) and she feels like a copy of her.

And you base this on what? A few seconds of footage from an incomplete game?

The hemo gay Leo in the ohter hand feels and looks great to me. We now have two Gaylords in Tekken! Wohoo... (Lee is the other)

Same here.

I know that i will buy this shit ofcourse some day, but today is the day of mourning. Maybe T7 will show us the next-gen of Fighting.

All we've seen is an early movie. Why not wait to hear about what's important, I.E. GAME PLAY first? I agree that the game doesn't look like anything special though, but it's also just early footage.

Feindflug said:
It seems that Japanese devs have serious problems with the next-gen hardware. :(

IS this game being developed on next-gen hardware?
 
Namco has no idea what they're doing anymore. Tekken looks just good enough, but not OMG great. Back on the PS2, Tekken's graphics were OMG great. If this game doesn't improve like crazy by time it hits the PS3, I think I might be done with Tekken. Same animations, same old hit fire cloud, nothing new or different when it comes to stages, and one of the worse two character addition ever. They didn't even come close to the Jin render they so boldly use at the being of the trailer.
 
sportzhead said:
Namco has no idea what they're doing anymore. Tekken looks just good enough, but not OMG great. Back on the PS2, Tekken's graphics were OMG great. If this game doesn't improve like crazy by time it hits the PS3, I think I might be done with Tekken. Same animations, same old hit fire cloud, nothing new or different when it comes to stages, and one of the worse two character addition ever. They didn't even come close to the Jin render they so boldly use at the being of the trailer.

Wow.
 
By the way, I played Tekken 5 on PS2 in progressive scan mode on my 720p projector -- HOLY JESUS CHRIST DOES IT LOOK GOOD. And that wasn't just because we were playing VF4 evo (480i only game) before, either.
 
Sho Nuff said:
By the way, I played Tekken 5 on PS2 in progressive scan mode on my 720p projector -- HOLY JESUS CHRIST DOES IT LOOK GOOD. And that wasn't just because we were playing VF4 evo (480i only game) before, either.

You should really try TK5 DR on PS3 on that projector. :D
 
The Tekken 3 roster just builds on what Tekken 2 started, though. It also only got a few new characters.

I know. But the T3 roster just feels like the core thing to me. Hwoarang fits nicely and the looks that were implemented (is that a word?) there are the basis for example in T5.


And you base this on what? A few seconds of footage from an incomplete game?

I was referring to the looks of her. Very boring looking gal.

All we've seen is an early movie. Why not wait to hear about what's important, I.E. GAME PLAY first? I agree that the game doesn't look like anything special though, but it's also just early footage.

I agree. But the core character-models are usually locked very early so dont expect too much improvement there. Personally id like to see much more emphasis on the hitting and moving so they would look more realistic. T5 looks fine but with new technology i want to see something else.

POWERTOTHEHITS!
 
Yoboman said:
Tis a sad day for graphic whore fighting fans :'(

We are all "graphic whores". If you are playing your 360 or PS3 or both on a new HDTV, you are because of the picture quality. We all didn't spend $1000 plus for some next gen consoles and an HDTV to look at dated graphics.
 
funnything is despite the character models been more basic, I think the Arena section in HS looks better than any of the three fighting games so far, its probably the lighting but yeah, there are large single player games which look better in an expansive area than these games do....

peace
 
Lyte Edge said:
The Tekken 3 roster just builds on what Tekken 2 started, though. It also only got a few new characters.

Wellllll...yes and no.

The way I see the breakdown is:

Tekken 3

Genuinely new / Become series mainstays
Bryan - New
Gordo - New
Xiaoyu - New
Jin - New

Pretty slight changes
Hwaorang - Baek evolved
Julia - Michelle evolved

Not really worth distinguishing
Panda - total Kuma clone
Forest Law - total Marshall clone

Whatever
Ogre - New, but crap, forgettable, etc.


So even given that breakdown which slashes the roster in half, you've still got four significant new entries, which I'd put in as more than the rest of the series (TT - 5DR) have managed to come up with combined.

Compare that to Tekken 2 which added:

Jun
Lei
Baek
Bruce
Roger

Of those, I'd argue that only Lei really went on to become a series mainstay even though T5 returned a lot of the characters to (uncertain) glory.

Jun is obviously resurrected in Asuka, Baek is obviously resurrected in Hwaorang, and if you really wanted, you could try to connect Bruce and Bryan.... so you could argue up to 4 if you really wanted to push it for a tie, but I'd still say that overall, T3 was the most significant for defining the character roster beyond the first game in the series thus far....
 
Bad_Boy said:
tk6_aou_08.jpg

omg @ bryan fury!!

I said wow. The muscles are just O_O

Sorry I'm late to the party. why is GAF disappointed? Looks stellar to me.
 
Feindflug said:
Tekken 6 was a big disappointment - I totally agree with Bebpo, it's definitely the worst looking of the big 3 - it really needs work on the textures, lighting, animation & the stages look kinda empty...It seems that Japanese devs have serious problems with the next-gen hardware. :(

ORLY? Mortal Kombat hellpppppppp~~!!
 
Hunahan said:
Genuinely new / Become series mainstays
Bryan - New
Gordo - New
Xiaoyu - New
Jin - New

I'm not saying that some of them are literally the same character, but Jin is like Kazuya and Jun combined, and Bryan was the replacement for Bruce. Tekken 4 did more to change things up and combine a lot of the clones into single characters, plus change the game play, but then everyone complained and Tekken 5 went back to the older style...
 
Looks stellar to me.

Look closer :D

Well that particular screen is probably the coolest. Muscle-structure shows pretty well!

But what the **** is with those new hit-effects ?! Some crappy distorting lenses and theyre not even round... i hope Namco loses them fast.



EDIT: I disagree on that Bryan was a Bruce remake. Yes theyre both kick-boxers but the move-sets differ greatly. Animations and stats-alike.
 
karasu said:
Leo looks stupid, like everyone who thought T6 would actually look like that early video.

I like how the new trailer shows a brief clip from that comedic video just to rub the shit into our collective mugs. :lol Too bad people will never learn the lesson...

The moels look average to me...and that's not helped by the character designs looking limp. Some of the background designs look pretty cool, but so far VF5's got this beat, and DOA4 doesn't look any worse.

And I don't see what the big deal is with SH arcade...it's a spinoff game and a way for Konami to slip a few extra bucks into their jeans. I don't know why that's being regarded as the crime of the century.
 
Tekken 3's 20 year jump after T2 did set them up to really shake up the cast but I still think the new additions since then have been great. Steve Fox was a major addition.

Bryan was definitely a Bruce replacement at first. They don't just share the same style, they also shared several moves. Bryan even has strings called "Bruce Rush" that they didn't even bother to rename. Hwoarang has always been quite a bit different then Baek but everyone considers him a replacement.

These days they should just keep everyone, they've all evolved so much.
 
Tekken 6 environments fail in comparison to VF5, the models are just about on-par, though they need some (better) skin textures for most of the characters. Costumes look alright.
 
zoukka said:
EDIT: I disagree on that Bryan was a Bruce remake. Yes theyre both kick-boxers but the move-sets differ greatly. Animations and stats-alike.

Okay, so even then it's only three new characters.

What's cool about Tekken, and something I wish other games would do, is that they really go all out in changing the characters' appearances in the sequels. The characters age or get replaced by younger family members or different people. I wish this would happen more often in other games.
 
Lyte Edge said:
Okay, so even then it's only three new characters.

What's cool about Tekken, and something I wish other games would do, is that they really go all out in changing the characters' appearances in the sequels. The characters age or get replaced by younger family members or different people. I wish this would happen more often in other games.

That`s because in Tekken the Story line is so strong and great. It affects the characters allways in real-time. I for one love to speculate on the relationships of the characters.

I love how they included the massive scars in Kazuyas torso when Heihachi dropped him in to the volcano <3


Tekken 4 has some great story moments. I miss them in T5 which is a little too much humoristic about the endings of the characters.

Did you know btw that Tekken 5 begins exactly where Tekken 4 ends. Play Tekken 4 with Jin to see this yourself (if you didnt know this beforehand)
 
Lyte Edge said:
I'm not saying that some of them are literally the same character, but Jin is like Kazuya and Jun combined, and Bryan was the replacement for Bruce.

Yeah, I allowed for the Byan/Bruce analogy at the bottom. I can also grant that Jin didn't really define himself until T4 as wholly unique, but I'd say he's still a pretty core character to the franchise at this point and that's where he got his start either way. At the end of the day, I'd still say we saw pretty significant roster advancement in T3, which was really all my point was. Also why I said "yes and no," since I do agree that Tekken 2 was significant as well...

If I'm being unfair to anything, it's probably Tekken 4, which did introduce Marduk and Steve Fox, neither of which really seem to be going away anytime soon. Still, it's difficult to see the Tekken 5 assembly become anywhere near as recognized outside of the Asuka introduction. Does anyone really see Raven and Feng even making it into 6? I know I really wouldn't care if they didn't, personally.....
 
TTP said:
why is GAF disappointed?
No self-shadowing?
I don't know, I think it looks great too, it has that slick and smooth DOA4 look to it and I for one really like that look. And it's Tekken, the best fighting serie imo. Can't wait to play it!
 
Hunahan said:
Does anyone really see Raven and Feng even making it into 6? I know I really wouldn't care if they didn't, personally.....


Yes.... both are popular. Especially Feng, who was one of the best characters in T5 and is still very good in DR.
 
Don't take ANYONE out. Even characters like Ganryu who is probably one of the least played overall is popular in the hardcore scene.
 
TTP said:
It'd be hardly missing cosindering it's already there in TDR for PS3.

I think we just need bigger pics.
Maybe, the self-shadowing isn't as apparent is in VF5 anyway and it makes the characters look a bit flat in comparison. But I like the look, I never had any real problems with the look of DOA4 that had zero self-shadowing either. The game looks good. People are probably just complaining for the sake of complaining. I mean, It's GAF. What's to expect? :/

Day one purchase for me when ever it hits Europe anyway.
 
Im disapointed to be honest, its got that Ninja Gaiden/DOA look to it, it even looks like it might have destructable environments.

Leo = Pauls Son/Daughter/Thing?
 
Seems like Tekken 6 hasn't had much of an improvement since E3-06 (look like T:DR-HD+), but I'm a Tekken whore, so I'm dying for it. Silent Hill Arcade seems like a shitty HOTD cash-in... Wii port confirmed. Anyway, Namco seems like their giving a big **** you to Next-Gen expectations.
 
Leo does not look anything like Paul ?

Paul has that Yankee-masculine head and Leo looks like "Final Fantasy XII-2 Vaan-gone-to-pop-stardom" thingy...


In the other hand Paul did "live" a little in the end of Iron Fist Tournament 4 :D
 
it's quite interesting too see how the opinions have changed during the last few hours.

First it was like "WOW"! Now it's like "NAH".

o_O
 
Do the graphics in the pics look washed out to anyone else? This seems to be the case in some PS3 games, and I remember people speculating it was because of the Nvidia graphics card (Xbox often had that look too). There are a lot of PS3 games that have a nice "crisp" look though, so I'm thinking maybe it happens when devs use the built-in filters in RSX...?
 
sportzhead said:
We are all "graphic whores". If you are playing your 360 or PS3 or both on a new HDTV, you are because of the picture quality. We all didn't spend $1000 plus for some next gen consoles and an HDTV to look at dated graphics.

I wonder where all these PS3 graphic whores were last gen when the DC manage to stomp it with just a vga box in terms of visual output. Now you get some fixed rate crappy lcds with crappy blacks and suddenly graphics mean something to you. Saying welcome to the club would suffice at this point, but the way you guys whine about graphics now and used the same crap Wii players have a habit of doing is quite funny to see the tables turn.
Sucks to be you BTW I spent less than 500$ on my monitor and calibration setup and it certainly rapes the crap out of yours, Sony GDM-FW900 FTW. I know it sounds hateful but live with it till the mainstream catches up to Hi Resolution developers will get away with this crap.
 
Dante said:
I think T6 looks fantastic, but I do think it does look early 4 characters and 2 stages. I mean the stages look really empty at this point, and in the vid it looked like they were in full production. I mean take that stage with the tank. Add some background characters, some smoke effects, maybe a chopper of jet flying above and it'll be really nice looking.

Anyway looking like 2k7 is the year of the fighter!!!

That's my opinion too,I think it looks really good but it's also quite early. There's no crowd, very limited background animations and the lighting doesn't feel final. Anyway this confirms that the E3 trailer had nothing to do with the real game and the announcement of the PS3 based arcade board is really good too.
 
Ceb said:
Do the graphics in the pics look washed out to anyone else? This seems to be the case in some PS3 games, and I remember people speculating it was because of the Nvidia graphics card (Xbox often had that look too). There are a lot of PS3 games that have a nice "crisp" look though, so I'm thinking maybe it happens when devs use the built-in filters in RSX...?


SNOOOOOOZE!!


Looks great.
 
Ceb said:
Do the graphics in the pics look washed out to anyone else? This seems to be the case in some PS3 games, and I remember people speculating it was because of the Nvidia graphics card (Xbox often had that look too). There are a lot of PS3 games that have a nice "crisp" look though, so I'm thinking maybe it happens when devs use the built-in filters in RSX...?

lol @BS.
Nothing's washed out.In fact the IQ on ps3 is fantastic imho
 
need footage but damn if the stills aren't impressive to me.

just read up through the thread + the anoop sms/text... japan needs to get up to tech with next gen... :S
 
zoukka said:
Leo does not look anything like Paul ?

Paul has that Yankee-masculine head and Leo looks like "Final Fantasy XII-2 Vaan-gone-to-pop-stardom" thingy...


In the other hand Paul did "live" a little in the end of Iron Fist Tournament 4 :D
One is female (atleast I hope), one is Male. They don't have to look the exact same to be related...

could be paul's sister, or daughter. or none of the above, who knows.
 
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