Triggerhappytel
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They should delay FFXV for another two years to do this.
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Siliconera: NieR: Automata Has An Autopilot Feature That Does The Fighting For You
- Thread starter LelouchZero
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They should delay FFXV for another two years to do this.
TheCongressman1
Member
First time seeing this. Normally don't care for beat em ups, but this looks really fluid. Autopilot feature has me a bit worried, but I'll keep my eye on it.
Glass Rebel
Member
Might as well at this point.
The original had a ton of combat, Automata just has better combat.
They promised a deep RPG system, but like it has already been brought up, they have yet to show much of it.
I totally got a little emotional reading that I'm not gonna lie. I can't imagine being physically unable to game, what a horrible thought, I'm so glad that options like this exist and I wish they would be implemented more.
NightShift
Member
Saito, the games producer, has said that the game is roughly 60% a RPG and 40% an action game. That seems a little more than the original game but I'm sure that'll be fine now that the combat looks like it'll be fun the whole way through. I think they're not showing much RPG elements because of spoilers and that the combat is new.
No need to be worried at all, super easy auto modes are a staple of the genre at this point.
If anything, including an option like this means that they don't have to worry about being as inclusive with the regular difficulty, since people who have trouble have something they can fall back on. That's probably why you see this stuff in Platinum games; they want to make an uncompromised version of the game they have in mind, and including options like this allow them to do so without the fear of losing some 'casuals' that might otherwise be interested.
Their games would probably be simpler and easier if they had to balance the default experience around a mainstream audience.
Their games would probably be simpler and easier if they had to balance the default experience around a mainstream audience.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Extra Credit did an episode before about game difficulty they mentioned a study/survey that shows players are more likely to quit a game before they would lower the difficulty.
If true I do wonder who is this for.
If true I do wonder who is this for.
It's for disabled people, people that are really bad at video games, and people would prefer to turn down the difficulty rather than to quit a game.
Even if people are more likely to quit a game than to lower the difficulty, you're still doing yourself a disservice if you don't cater to the people that do lower the difficulty. Let's say it's a 60% 40% split for example. You don't just ignore 40% of these people because they're in the minority.
For a minority that wants or even needs it.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Can't believe people have a problem with this,doesn't effect you at all.
It's not even a new concept...
It's not even a new concept...
Stereogatari
Banned
Square Enix mode.
Spiritwalker
Member
So much anger over something so trivial and optional.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
For the record Plantium can do this if they want, no skin off my back but I'm just intrigued by the existence of a fanbase of people who like action games but are bad at it enough to want to have the game play out by itself but still willing to spend money at the game.
If there's a sizable record of people using this feature in bayo 2 then fair play I guess. Learn something new today.
I remember that video where Naughty Dog told how they made UC4 accessible for handicapped people, which is great. I image these modes allow a group of people incapable of playing most action titles to enjoy them. If they have this mode lying around for testing, they might as well add it so more people can enjoy the ride.
YankeeDonB
Member
Indeed, this is why this particular tempest in a tea kettle is particularly baffling.
If there's one developer everyone calls out for deep action gameplay it's Platinum.
And the easy mode is doubly justified in making a sequel to a story-heavy game that pulled people in with everything but action combat.
On the contrary, will Platinum fans be able to swallow Yoko's sadistic storytelling and gameplay/story integration?
Not until they implement an actual fucking lock-on system. The lack of it was absurd in NieR.
What? The areas where always small enough where a lock on system would have been redundant. That's the weirdest complaint I've ever heard in regards to Nier's combat.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I'm surprised people are surprised, similar modes have been present since Bayo1, and one of things Minami said that PG strives for, is to make games enjoyable to all.
I feel is a lofty objectives, and sonetjibg never hampered past PG games and no reason to happen now.
I feel is a lofty objectives, and sonetjibg never hampered past PG games and no reason to happen now.
I'm still surprised to this day how Nier, which had some of the most mediocre "just functional" combat mechanics for an open-worldish styled game (and mediocre, "just functional" combat mechanics are pretty much the norm for these style of games these days), is getting a sequel that'll likely have the best combat mechanics for an open world styled game. Letting platinum get involved was pretty fucking genius on their part.
King Gilga
Member
I wish I could get this for deadly premonitions boring ass combat sections.
Someone out there might feel the sane way about this game's combat.
Someone out there might feel the sane way about this game's combat.
They said right shortly after it was announced that the game will feature a very easy mode so even people who aren't good at action games can enjoy it and don't have to miss out, since the first game wasnt a challenging action game either.
I fail to see a reason to be surprised.
I fail to see a reason to be surprised.
Glass Rebel
Member
You can lock on with the pods in Automata.
And I disagree about the original NieR needing one.
I doubt it will be very deep since Square Enix wants 'everyone, including novice players, to enjoy it'. Everything in the game should be easy enough to play on auto-pilot, not just combat. So probably no exploration, puzzle solving or deep rpg systems of any sort.
Glass Rebel
Member
Not sure where the "deep" RPG system came from. Nothing in NieR was particularly deep except for Taro's reach into your chest to tear your heart out.
I legit lol'd. It's true tho.
You'd have to do that either way, let's get real.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Isn't it (and hasn't it always been) "auto-combo" mode? Games like these have had this since DMC1.
Besides that, less than half of all players don't even finish a game. We can't skip certan features even if some or even most players aren't likely to use it.
It's for people who are likely to use such a feature right off the bat.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Everyone was too busy making "lol I can masturbate while playing" jokes to notice.
letmetrythisname
Member
Journalist mode.
pretty done
Member
They should transplant this games combat into the first game. My god what terrible gameplay mechanics that game had.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
I think it's this weird pride thing. Like even competitive fighting games have implemented these automatic modes that a lot of people probably in this thread could use to mitigate some of the "learning combos" barrier that keeps them from enjoying them.
but there seems to be this weird stigma of shame in using those features. Even in games where one should expect a beginner to have no ego in.
GutsOfThor
Member
Great to hear! I enjoyed the first game immensely not because of the combat but because of the story and setting. The quicker I can get past the combat sections in this game the better. I only wish they could add in a feature to bypass the combat sections completely.
Son Of Sparda
Member
DMC4's auto mode would be okay for people that are bad at playing action titles or don't care enough to invest time into learning them. But a mode that completely takes away the play part is super lame.
LMAO
This is why I generally pick higher difficulties. Normal difficulty's generally made easy, so as to make sure the regular user won't quit.
Chronospherics
Member
I can't imagine so no? Rush just gets you through easy encounters faster, but gets you killed in anything tougher. Rush is for min-maxing your time spent grinding, this is for accessibility.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
an optional auto combo mode that's been a staple of character action games for 15 years and I've never touched and has no effect on anybody who doesn't want it
ok
ok