Who's everyone? Because I think by now it's common knowledge that Nintendo still has tons of money in their bank.That's because everyone seems to think Nintendo is a tiny little company with no money. It's hilarious
Who's everyone? Because I think by now it's common knowledge that Nintendo still has tons of money in their bank.That's because everyone seems to think Nintendo is a tiny little company with no money. It's hilarious
Who's everyone? Because I think by now it's common knowledge that Nintendo still has tons of money in their bank.
PS3 may see a price drop to $200 but PS4 will replace it within 2 years IMO.R&D likely went into making the PS3 even slimmer too. 22nm Cell is on the cards to be released this year.
I think the launch of the final, slimmest PS3 model will coincide with a pricedrop and this will bring sales back up.
=Holy fuck. This is unbelievably bad, my God.
How the fuck did PS post a loss? PS3 and PS4 are sold at a profit or close to it... Is it the Vita?
You should read this thread.
The answer has been posted several times.
The game division lost $78M? Shit, how is that possible? What was driving this? The Vita????
No webm.
PS3 may see a price drop to $200 but PS4 will replace it within 2 years IMO.
Could Playstation even exist in its current form with out the rest of the company?
From the call:
Questions on game:
Is the 17m forecast too conservative?
Half of PS4 users have PS+.
Is it worth bothering with PS Vita at just 3.5m units?
Vita doing less than expectations.
Is there a chance of PS2 like margins (10%)?
Cost of SNEI has reduced margins because of infrastructure investments, backbone servers etc...
PS4 has a good potential to achieve PS2 like margins.
We don't know how many PS3s were sold though, right? Plus, it's still too expensive for the secondary markets.
You wouldn't think that in the weekly Nintendo is doomed threads
Yup if it wasn't for Financial Services Sony would be pretty much dead...
Some of the posts in here are downright embarrassing talking about spinning off Games and mentioning Nintendo when they have no relevance at all to the current conversation. Fanboys mayne.
Sony last year and current year sector performance comparison:
You do realize that the only people that really say "Nintendo are doomed" are those that defend Nintendo saying others are saying it right? Case in point. The Wii U on the other hand is failing and people aren't just going to ignore it. Is there hyperbole? Yes, it comes from both sides but most know Nintendo still has lots of money.
Are the TV and Mobile sales forecasts too aggressive?
TV, not really, we feel this year will have growth.
Mobile, definitely not, expanding into key markets and partnering with carriers for high sales growth.
Why is R&D spending growing so much?
Expanding smartphone development, that is our key business policy.
.....Next dude....
How will you achieve the 16m TV sales forecast, will you be gaining market share in a falling market?
Yes, we are doing well with 4K, the sales growth in 4K. Margins in India are strong.
You do realize that the only people that really say "Nintendo are doomed" are those that defend Nintendo saying others are saying it right? Case in point. The Wii U on the other hand is failing and people aren't just going to ignore it. Is there hyperbole? Yes, it comes from both sides but most know Nintendo still has lots of money.
The levels of BS coming from these answers is staggering. No way is TV growing for them, neither is mobile as they just cant compete with Samsung/Apple. Sounds like more of the same.
Japanese labour laws are very strict.
.TAGAJO, Japan Shusaku Tani is employed at the Sony plant here, but he doesnt really work.
For more than two years, he has come to a small room, taken a seat and then passed the time reading newspapers, browsing the Web and poring over engineering textbooks from his college days. He files a report on his activities at the end of each day.
Sony, Mr. Tanis employer of 32 years, consigned him to this room because they cant get rid of him. Sony had eliminated his position at the Sony Sendai Technology Center, which in better times produced magnetic tapes for videos and cassettes. But Mr. Tani, 51, refused to take an early retirement offer from Sony in late 2010 his prerogative under Japanese labor law.
So there he sits in what is called the chasing-out room. He spends his days there, with about 40 other holdouts.
I wont leave, Mr. Tani said. Companies arent supposed to act this way. Its inhumane.
The standoff between workers and management at the Sendai factory underscores an intensifying battle over hiring and firing practices in Japan, where lifetime employment has long been the norm and where large-scale layoffs remain a social taboo, at least at Japans largest corporations.
Sony wants to change that, and so does Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. As Japans economic recovery slows, reducing the restraints on companies has become even more important to Mr. Abes economic plans. He wants to loosen rigid rules on job terminations for full-time staff.
Economists say bringing flexibility to the labor market in Japan would help struggling companies streamline bloated work forces to better compete in the global economy. Fewer restrictions on layoffs could make it easier for Sony to leave loss-ridden traditional businesses and concentrate resources on more innovative, promising ones.
I have a single wish for Japans electronics sector, and thats labor reform, said Atul Goyal, a technology analyst at Jefferies & Company.
Sony said it was not doing anything wrong in placing employees in what it calls Career Design Rooms. Employees are given counseling to find new jobs in the Sony group, or at another company, it said. Sony also said that it offered workers early retirement packages that are generous by American standards: in 2010, it promised severance payments equivalent to as much as 54 months of pay. But the real point of the rooms is to make employees feel forgotten and worthless and eventually so bored and shamed that they just quit, critics say.
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No wonder Sony won't shut down the TV divsion, not enough boredom rooms.
Gives another meaning to corporate welfare.
Both PS3 and 360 need significant pricedrops. Poorer families still can't afford them, and that's a big untapped market so far for those consoles.
If Sony want to make more profit on PS3s, they need to make it slimmer, cheaper and easier to produce.
22nm Cell already exists and Digital Foundry are sure it's coming this year:
The 22nm Cell is also going into the PS3 server clusters for PS Now, to ensure the lowest electrical cost and efficiency
Well something caused losses to go from -85 billion yen to -26 billion yen year to year.
The levels of BS coming from these answers is staggering. No way is TV growing for them, neither is mobile as they just cant compete with Samsung/Apple. Sounds like more of the same.
They can DEFINITELY compete with Samsung on mobile, their phones are close to stock Android and don't have S-Garbage for starters.
We can get a reasonably accurate guess. Last year they shipped 3.4M PS3 + PS2. The years prior were 1.9, 2.1, 2.2 for PS3 alone. So we can say the PS3 has probably averaged a touch over 2M shipped in the Jan-Mar quarter.
Now, this year they shipped 3.7M consoles including PS4. The PS4 is likely shipping about 1M per month. We're probably looking at PS3 <= 1M for the quarter. That's a big dropoff, and it's happening much more quickly than it did for PS2. I agree that it's still too expensive, but that's a problem with the design. It's never going to cost-reduce as well as the PS2 did, which is just one more way the project was a failure.
Also, this shipment number obfuscation Sony is pulling is some real bullshit. I wish someone would cal them out on it during an earnings call.
Had no idea it was that ridiculous. Bizarre. It's basically a privately paid unemployment benefit...?No wonder Sony won't shut down the TV divsion, not enough boredom rooms.
Gives another meaning to corporate welfare.
The levels of BS coming from these answers is staggering. No way is TV growing for them, neither is mobile as they just cant compete with Samsung/Apple. Sounds like more of the same.
No webm.
Selling assets?
Well, for one, the fact that the PS3 has a harddrive automatically means that it will never be as cheap as the PS2.
True, but even the HDD-less 12GB is too expensive. I think the cell is really hurting their cost structure.
Yeap, because they don't have deals with American carriers most people here tend to think their phone division is doing badly when they're actually very competitive in Europe and Asia.Sony's smartphones (Xperia) are doing better than those of you looking at it from an American perspective seem to believe, I think. They may not have much presence in America yet, but aren't they third globally? In Europe and Asia they're doing rather well, AFAIK.
Yeap, because they don't have deals with American carriers most people here tend to think their phone division is doing badly when they're actually very competitive in Europe and Asia.
A nice PS3 revision with a price-drop appeals to me much more than a VitaTV. I would get another PS3 if that was the case.Both PS3 and 360 need significant pricedrops. Poorer families still can't afford them, and that's a big untapped market so far for those consoles.
If Sony want to make more profit on PS3s, they need to make it slimmer, cheaper and easier to produce.
22nm Cell already exists and Digital Foundry are sure it's coming this year:
The 22nm Cell is also going into the PS3 server clusters for PS Now, to ensure the lowest electrical cost and efficiency
I don't see TV growing but they don't have to sell as much Samsung/Apple to grow mobile .
There phone business has getting better last few years .
Guessing we can't extrapolate updated PS4 numbers from this :
PS division losing money? Is that R&D costs or what?