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Fixed that for youJesus Christ, great statement. Don't buy our console, you can get our gameseverywhereon our other systems too.
Fixed that for youJesus Christ, great statement. Don't buy our console, you can get our gameseverywhereon our other systems too.
I feel like I"m in the same boat. I have been planning to get the next Xbox but I fine myself leaning back towards Sony. I have all the consoles but I really wanted to pick one and just deal with it this time around. So far I have been on board with all of Microsoft's promises on the Series X, but I'm losing confidence that this might be another round of PR.every time this guy talks it just puts me off wanting to buy an Xbox.
i was going to get an XSX but i'm starting to lean back towards PS5.
I’m now quite convinced they wouldn’t bother if Sony wasn’t ready to go. It’s just an inconvenient necessity to keep up in the arms race and goes against MS’s grand plan of pure services.
Alternatively it would just be the current gen extended indefinitely until streaming is out of the oven.
At first Sony was planning on releasing a console holiday 2019. So Microsoft would've done just that what you said. Then Sony changed strategies, and you can't keep extending the date of your console launch since there's a lot of time and money that is poured into this. Also the message of XSX is exactly the same as the one of the Xbox, Xbox 360 and the Xbox One X. Powerful box, amazing games, best quality for consoles.
1) Nope, purely the rumors. I should've put that in brackets after it.1st bolded: Is there any evidence of this? I'll even believe strong industry rumour, but with the line-up of games this year, mirroring the final year of the PS3 - before the launch of the PS4 - I find that rumour particularly hard to swallow.
2nd bolded: I strongly disagree. Microsoft may want that message, but that certainly isn't the message as it stands today. It wasn't the message with Xbone either, as they pumped more money in to Kinect integration, NFL rights and TV deals than they did in to the hardware of the Xbone.
Microsoft haven't had a clear message or clear direction/leadership since Moore and it's reflected in the games. Yep, the fanboy cliché/trope of "Microsoft have no games" may be hyperbole, as they do indeed have some exclusives, but the amount and level of quality is simply shocking. Even the staples of Halo, Forza and Gears have fallen by the wayside. With the exception of Forza, gamers have reacted negatively to Gears 4, 5 and Halo 5. Indeed, the best iteration of Halo this gen was the MCC, which had a terrible reception and took years for it to be in decent order. To say the Outer Worlds is Microsofts best exclusive in years, says quite a lot and I thoroughly enjoyed Outer Worlds.
1) Nope, purely the rumors. I should've put that in brackets after it.
2) I agree this wasn't the message with the original Xbox One, but that changed for me with the One X and XSX. They are clearly planning on delivering the most powerful console at the moment. Game wise indeed the past Gen was lacking. I expect this to change current gen with all the studios they have bought.
I agree. If we look at the end of the 360 life cycle, Microsoft should have released a console in 2011/2012 and not bothered with Kinect. They would have cut the legs off of Sony and Sony wouldn't have had time to recuperate the losses they incurred with the PS3. Microsoft stalled then, when they should have been aggressive and look what it has cost them
So... super beat Sony and Nintendo to the market i.e. rinse and repeat the Xbox 360? Financially Xbox 360 was a disaster from what we can tell.
That was basically the strategy of the Xbox 360, the original Xbox was released in 2001, lost billions... they thought if they released early 2005, they would get the market. Here comes Nintendo with its two Gamecubes duct taped together with a stupid controller... took the market.
The issue is during the good years (really so so years) Microsoft couldn't make money at this, which is why the MS top people were saying Xbox needed the axe including Gates.
Bill Gates to Microsoft: Spin Off Xbox If You Want, Don't Sell Bing
Bill Gates to Microsoft: Spin Off Xbox If You Want, Don't Sell Bingmashable.com
Of course, I don't know how you spin off Xbox unless it was spun off as a traditional publisher.
I am fairly sure is that they plan to offer a single binary package with different supported performance profiles for the CPU/GPU of different machines. There is a certain level of scaling they can do with that, similar to what a PC game will let you do in its graphics settings (I suspect they store different .ini files for each profile, or something to that effect)... This allows for a wide range of scaling across different platforms, but in the end you could still have many games that run at or below 720p with sub 30fps (I mean, pretty constant sub 30), or games that have a decent resolution for xbone s, but where the lighting and particle effects are turned wayyyyy down so that the machine has a bit of breathing room, however for CPU bound scaling the options are more limited, uness you plan on offering a game that plays entirely differently depending on the hardware you have (dumber AI? physics that aren't as precise? whatever else that is dependent on the CPU calculating logic).Just look at minimum pc requirements of AAA games being sold in 2019. Why would this be so different in 2020, and even 2021 if Microsoft lets a separate team port the game towards Xbox One S?
Everytime Phil opens his mouth he makes more people lose interest in his platform. Just shut it, Phil. Exclusives aren't bad, why the hell would I pay $500 or more if the point is to play last gen games? Are you fucking kidding me? Just shut your face!
The OG xbox lost a load of money because it was the first console they released. The 360 may have lost some money, but to blame it on the Wii isn't fair.
thats the stupidity with that PR Talk - now Xbox X could be double as powerfull as PS5 - since its games must also run on fucking Xbone One its games will allways will be from lesser detail, Scope and even graphics compared to PS5s exclusives.Those specs better be amazing compared to PS5 otherwise I don’t see this going over too well.
All good. PlayStation fans will be doing the same when those PS5 exclusives hit PC.New? Xbox fans have been trying to push this narrative all gen.
Defending a complete lack of free speech to avoid one narrative you disagree with? Are you daft?It’s sad that the Sony-fans are still pushing the “all games must release on XB1” narrative, even though everyone knows that’s not the case.
Say what you want about Reeeera. At least that shit gets shut down.
All good. PlayStation fans will be doing the same when those PS5 exclusives hit PC.
try ff13 in 4k on the xbox one xEverytime Phil opens his mouth he makes more people lose interest in his platform. Just shut it, Phil. Exclusives aren't bad, why the hell would I pay $500 or more if the point is to play last gen games? Are you fucking kidding me? Just shut your face!
Its hilarious the company that charges Xbox players to play online but gives it away for free to PC players is saying they are player-centric.
What is the blunt truth?Defending a complete lack of free speech to avoid one narrative you disagree with? Are you daft?
Anyway, this kind of corporate spin makes me less and less likely to buy an X. Either say the blunt truth of say nothing at all Phil.
He won't say so I don't know. But I am 99.9999999999999999999999999% certain MS never had a high level executive meeting, wherein the powers that be said we will not develop 1st party games that only work on next generation to put players at the center. The decision was made for financial reasons IMO.What is the blunt truth?
Or both? Why can't it just be both... Good for them financially AND good for consumers.He won't say so I don't know. But I am 99.9999999999999999999999999% certain MS never had a high level executive meeting, wherein the powers that be said we will not develop 1st party games that only work on next generation to put players at the center. The decision was made for financial reasons IMO.
Well you folks seem convinced.
Anybody care to argue that maybe when he's mentioning exclusives he's referring to first party titles? Anybody wanna make note that he also said he's not trying to dictate what 3rd parties do?
“Actually I don't know much why we are in the gaming sector,” Nadella told him
Sure it is.Azure is a backend cloud storage and processing service, its completely transparent to the end users.
Defending a complete lack of free speech to avoid one narrative you disagree with? Are you daft?
Anyway, this kind of corporate spin makes me less and less likely to buy an X. Either say the blunt truth of say nothing at all Phil.
You said a bunch of nonsensical shit, then said phill is full of shit.Not sure what you don't understand.
“PlayStation” is reluctant to upset the fanboys.Wherever... as long as it is not on a PlayStation, they have cooties .
You said a bunch of nonsensical shit, then said phill is full of shit.
Seems he’s not the only one full of shit in this thread.
If Sony would allow Gamepass on PS4/5 Microsoft would put it there.
Sorry, I don’t understand dumb shit.I'm still not sure what you don't understand, apparently a lot.
I’m not suggesting anything: you suggested that dumb shit.Why would a closed system maker allow a competing store or the ability to by-pass the store on their device for third party apps/games, of course they would put it there, I'm sure they would love to put their own store on iOS, or Nintendo devices, etc. How about Microsoft allows me full access to the Xbox and I can just sell people games through my storefront?
What you are suggesting makes no sense.
Sorry, I don’t understand dumb shit.
I’m not suggesting anything: you suggested that dumb shit.
I simply said. Microsoft is attempting to put games where people who are. Same as any other video game publisher.
I simply said. Microsoft is attempting to put games where people who are. Same as any other video game publisher.
“PlayStation” is reluctant to upset the fanboys.
That’s. Their strategy. Satisfy the fanboys and their all good.
If Sony would allow Gamepass on PS4/5 Microsoft would put it there.
“PlayStation” is reluctant to upset the fanboys.
That’s. Their strategy. Satisfy the fanboys and their all good.
If Sony would allow Gamepass on PS4/5 Microsoft would put it there.
Oh look another thread predicting doom n gloom for the Xbox. In other news, the sun came up today. Calm down. It's going to be fine.
Sony needs the kind of fans who get hype off logos and shit. Lol. We got more info than Sony fans for sure.These are the kind of fans Xbox needs right now, not people who like to be informed and think about their decisions.
Fuck those guys, filthy free thinkers.
More like; I'm too dense to realize that I have options to play games on Xbox including the most powerful console on the market. I just like to ignore basic shit unless its in crayon.Jesus Christ, great statement. Don't buy our console, you can get our games everywhere.
Microsoft are the kings of PR bullshit and everyone believes them every time, no one ever learns. You should be seeing this coming. Regardless of the box being more powerful or not than PS5.. Unless you are loyal to the same few recurring exclusives they put out year after year, they still won't have the games. Their first priority is their services not the games. Sony knows that games is what makes them the front running console and they know that it is most important to keep that as the focus. I have an X and a Pro, I'll be ditching the Xbox once I have the PS5.I feel like I"m in the same boat. I have been planning to get the next Xbox but I fine myself leaning back towards Sony. I have all the consoles but I really wanted to pick one and just deal with it this time around. So far I have been on board with all of Microsoft's promises on the Series X, but I'm losing confidence that this might be another round of PR.
Oh we got a fanboy here lolSony needs the kind of fans who get hype off logos and shit. Lol. We got more info than Sony fans for sure.
Sony needs the kind of fans who get hype off logos and shit. Lol. We got more info than Sony fans for sure.
lmao you wish. just because you want it to happen dont mean it will.All good. PlayStation fans will be doing the same when those PS5 exclusives hit PC.
Oh we got a fanboy here lol
FWIW I have an X and a Pro and Microsoft fuckin sucks.. You have to look at the whole package. Yeah the X plays games better, GamePass is alright, that's about it.
Some people can own both brands and know which one is better without being loyally blind to one
Hi Mr. Enlightened PC Gamer,They always have been. Always will be.
Sincerely,
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