You know, I always got the impression that voice actors knew the context of the conversation, and heard the other voice actors lines as things went on. Huh. Interesting. Odd that it all comes together pretty naturally in the end.
Usually not, but of course, even when that's true, it comes down to the basically random order-of-recording...obviously the first English VA will have no other cast members from which to draw.
The director (and in this case, Houk) were good about letting me know the emotional stakes of a line without exactly giving me what it was referring to. It's a very quick and crazy process; voice actors can VERY rarely rehearse or gain access to a script beforehand, so cold reading is one of the most important skills you can have.
THE most important: show up on time to your session
Usually not, but of course, even when that's true, it comes down to the basically random order-of-recording...obviously the first English VA will have no other cast members from which to draw.
The director (and in this case, Houk) were good about letting me know the emotional stakes of a line without exactly giving me what it was referring to. It's a very quick and crazy process; voice actors can VERY rarely rehearse or gain access to a script beforehand, so cold reading is one of the most important skills you can have.
THE most important: show up on time to your session
DR merchandise ordering time! It seems like the DR2OST doesn't have the full version of the ending song? Does anyone know if this was released on a separate CD of some sort?
People should post their collections of DR stuff so I can become super jealous and fall into despair (I'm also just interested in knowing what kinda merch is out there) Gah, why does DR have such awesome figurines >.<
Not really. Without context, they didn't mean much (I was not privy to the rest of the conversation or anyone's lines but my own), and to be honest, it was, like, a year ago at this point.
Which of the two character's lines did you read first? Fat Bayakuya or Skinny Byakuya? I ask because I wanted to know if you had any sort of reaction when Fat Byakuya gets killed off and read his final lines (if you read Fat Bayakuka's lines first that is).
It could set some foundation or plot points in the third game. Like what Rubedo said, it's been done before so it's likely this can also happen here given the lack (?) of open points left after DR2.
Minimaru filled me with hope, and that hope payed off. Nekomaru is without a doubt my favorite DR character from either game. I really hope we see him again in the future.
Which of the two character's lines did you read first? Fat Bayakuya or Skinny Byakuya? I ask because I wanted to know if you had any sort of reaction when Fat Byakuya gets killed off and read his final lines (if you read Fat Bayakuka's lines first that is).
I'm kind of disappointed at how insignificant Nagito was in the grand scheme of things.
Of course he was a huge part in each of the individual chapters, but for the overall saga, he's almost irrelevant.
Given all the media he's gotten, I would've liked for him to have a bigger role.
I'm kind of disappointed at how insignificant Nagito was in the grand scheme of things.
Of course he was a huge part in each of the individual chapters, but for the overall saga, he's almost irrelevant.
Given all the media he's gotten, I would've liked for him to have a bigger role.
In a way it's poetic though. He has a lot of the characteristics one would expect in a protagonist and in the fifth chapter he starts to think he's the person who can make a difference by "defeating" Ultimate Despair. But it's all for naught because they were able to find put who the traitor was. The people he wanted to kill survived and paved the way for hope their way instead of what he saw as hope (them dying).
In a way it's poetic though. He has a lot of the characteristics one would expect in a protagonist and in the fifth chapter he starts to think he's the person who can make a difference by "defeating" Ultimate Despair. But it's all for naught because they were able to find put who the traitor was. The people he wanted to kill survived and paved the way for hope their way instead of what he saw as hope (them dying).
Honestly, I wouldn't feel as bad if it weren't for Chapter 0.
There he was gushing his heart out, but then he's just told he's insignificant.
We don't even really know anything about him, like we did with most of the other characters. Of course I didn't max his social link, since I didn't expect him to die.
Honestly, I wouldn't feel as bad if it weren't for Chapter 0.
There he was gushing his heart out, but then he's just told he's insignificant.
We don't even really know anything about him, like we did with most of the other characters. Of course I didn't max his social link, since I didn't expect him to die.
Yeah but that sorta fits with the way Junko rolls. He spends his time thinking he's gonna be so important and a stepping stone to an ideal but in the end it was meaningless. Despair, indeed.
After finishing all of the character's FTEs and endings on Island Mode on DR2, I had better understanding how each of them has fallen to despair. I know one person already detailed his, but here are mine:
Hajime
As Izuru, he had all the talent in the world and is "created" brimming with hope. The events of the first killing game must have taken a toll on him. Or he was just bored with everything and decided to plunge into despair for the hell of it.
Akane
Her dark past makes me believe that she would do anything to "survive" for her family and for herself.
Mikan
Her FTEs give you a clue of what she's been through since childhood. The ending of Chapter 3 makes it clear as well.
Nekomaru
Nekomaru said something like this in-game: It would be the ultimate disgrace if something happens to his athlete if he was the team manager. He must have been put in a situation where his athletes are dropping like flies and he couldn't do anything to help them.
Fuyuhiko
Death of his little sister and the grievances of being born as a heir to a Yakuza family. He was exposed to a very dark environment since his childhood but he is portrayed that doesn't want any part of it.
Peko
The easy explanation would be he followed Fuyuhiko wherever he went. The harder and more fitting one, imo, is that she failed to protect her master. Or Fuyuhiko's "hate" for her (that's what she sees on her end) was manipulated into something else.
Kazuichi
Experienced a rough childhood. Felt unappreciated by most people around him. Show him a little appreciation and some curves and he's yours.
Gundham
Lonely through and through with animals as his only companions. Death of his hamsters must have devastated him.
Ibuki
Going solo must be rough for her. Her FTEs with Hajime implies she is having difficulties being alone. Her music choice also wasn't exactly among the popular genre so she must have been hit hard when very few listens and enjoys it.
Nagito
His overzealous desire for hope led him to despair. Wanting to see the ultimate hope combat and triumph against the ultimate despair, he firmly believes he has to be the one to make that happen.
Sonia
The pressure of being a princess and wanting to do things like a regular girl is enough to break apart even a tough girl like her. She also seemed to have a rough past given the kidnappings and the culture in her country. In one of her Island Mode events, I took her to the Military Base and talked to her something about weapons.. She didn't like the idea and she said she is tired of it in an exasperated manner. Must be rough for her if she can say things like that.
If she was only more like Garnet.. Someday I'll be queen, but I'll always be myself.
Mahiru
Murder of her friend and the guilt of covering up a crime for her must have eaten her subconsciously. She also used her talent for purposes she did not intend to.
Hiyoko
The pressure of upholding a family tradition and being away from your family is not that easy to handle. Especially if the person she is away from is the only person that treats her well.
Teruteru
Collapse of his diner or mother or both. If he can kill Byakuya for any information about his mother, imaging what he would do if his mother dies.,,?
Impostor
Identity crisis. He/she exists but not exists at the same time.
I know I thought that was hilarious when I heard his real voice. XD Sorry if it's a stupid question but was that voice also you or did someone else do that?
Might be weird, but I really enjoy it when Monokuma appropriately does his stock "Disgusting" or "How strange..." audio clips. He did that more in DR1 than DR2, though, which was a bummer.
Here's a very neat thing I learned after doing a bit of poking around the interwebs......
Remember that game from the Second Chapter, Twilight Syndrome: Murder Case
It's actually a reference to Twilight Syndrome, a PS1 game series developed by Human Entertainment, who had members of Spike before they formed their own company after Human went defunct. Along with Suda 51 being the Director and Writer of the first three games. And the game in DR2 does use a lot of visual style from Twilight Syndrome in it's own game, like the EKG bar, it being in a side-scroller perspective, and the like.
I prefer the English version of that line to the original. It's more potent and fucked up. Makes you even more disturbed about the whole thing and I almost reacted just like Hajime did to that line.
Then how do you explain the image associated with that line in the original release, which demonstrates what the English line is saying more than what the original Japanese line supposedly says? Both actions could have been performed, and it would result in the same thing. Plus, the English version does a better job conveying how twisted the Ultimate Despair is than the original, which was the intent of when that dialogue occurred.
Well, I mean, in English, they never specifically state outright what they do, just that they tried to reproduce with Junko (who was dead).
I only interpreted it as them doing the real nasty, but it's never more specific than that.
I know I thought that was hilarious when I heard his real voice. XD Sorry if it's a stupid question but was that voice also you or did someone else do that?
But I think the english version seems more...realistic? And works better with the picture
The japanese versions seems a bit more complicated operation.
But well, in the end both versions implies, that the ultimate Despairs went back to Hopes Peak after the 6 survivors of the school killing left and descerate junkos corpse
But well, in the end both versions implies, that the ultimate Despairs went back to Hopes Peak after the 6 survivors of the school killing left and descerate her corpse
Now that I think about it, how did they even get much out of her? She got smooshed but Nagito found her hand in tact, I guess? And whoever used her eye for his own.
But I think the english version seems more...realistic? And works better with the picture
The japanese versions seems a bit more complicated operation.
But well, in the end both versions implies, that the ultimate Despairs went back to Hopes Peak after the 6 survivors of the school killing left and desecrate junkos corpse
Now that I think about it, how did they even get much out of her? She got smooshed but Nagito found her hand in tact, I guess? And whoever used her eye for his own.
I guess it's possible. Heck, maybe they killed someone and took their limbs or something. Because yeah, I don't think there would be much left of her...
Now that I think about it, how did they even get much out of her? She got smooshed but Nagito found her hand in tact, I guess? And whoever used her eye for his own.
Then how do you explain the image associated with that line in the original release, which demonstrates what the English line is saying more than what the original Japanese line supposedly says? Both actions could have been performed, and it would result in the same thing. Plus, the English version does a better job conveying how twisted the Ultimate Despair is than the original, which was the intent of when that dialogue occurred.
I honestly never saw that in the image? You just see a (presumed) man with his mouth open and blood on a wall, I never took that as fucking a corpse, especially when it meant to imply harvesting of sex organs.
Yes, the ultimate despair are fucked up, but I feel shoehorning in something as gross as necrophilia when it wasn't meant to be there in the first place is kinda off color. I dunno.
A-and....that was probably the most painful way to be killed by someone between the two game so far... and..... S-sonia probably did it.... she didn't enter with the rest of the group since she had to something..... she knew the "bomb" were fireworks.... she proposed using things that didn't take out the fire....she probably is the traitor.....
I will leave the game there until tomorrow.... I think.....
I honestly never saw that in the image? You just see a (presumed) man with his mouth open and blood on a wall, I never took that as fucking a corpse, especially when it meant to imply harvesting of sex organs.
Yes, the ultimate despair are fucked up, but I feel shoehorning in something as gross as necrophilia when it wasn't meant to be there in the first place is kinda off color. I dunno.
I'm not sure if harvesting organs is any less "shoehorning in" as far as fucked up stuff goes. Even with necrophilia (whether it's supposed to be in there or not), they drew a line as far as implying how deranged Ultimate Despair is goes. They could have essentially turned them into walking Aristocrats jokes by making them baby raping cannibal mass murderers, but instead Kodaka just wants to let the audience's imaginations run wild with just what kind of despair they caused.
The director (and in this case, Houk) were good about letting me know the emotional stakes of a line without exactly giving me what it was referring to. It's a very quick and crazy process; voice actors can VERY rarely rehearse or gain access to a script beforehand, so cold reading is one of the most important skills you can have.
I don't know if it's your doing or not, but I appreciate that you had significantly fewer lines that were obviously emphasized incorrectly for their role in the game than most of the other characters.
I honestly never saw that in the image? You just see a (presumed) man with his mouth open and blood on a wall, I never took that as fucking a corpse, especially when it meant to imply harvesting of sex organs.
Yes, the ultimate despair are fucked up, but I feel shoehorning in something as gross as necrophilia when it wasn't meant to be there in the first place is kinda off color. I dunno.
