TBiddy
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Successful male contraceptive jab trial brings new form of birth control closer
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Because doctors are sadistic.
Goose_Se7en
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Haha this got a good laugh outta me.
if this works on humans just as good i am all in. goodbye condoms.
and lol at the reactions here. women suffer so much for contraceptives, but a little sting is too much. just ask any woman that had the spiral or hell even the pill. first one can cause pain, cramps and internal bleeding. pills wreck havoc to their hormones and cause depression and/or lessened libido. just to name a few side effects.
this little injection takes only a few minutes, hurts for a day and then you are free to go without caring about making babies anymore. and if it is that easily reversible it's again just a trip to the doc, a little sting and your baby juices are back at their regular job.
and lol at the reactions here. women suffer so much for contraceptives, but a little sting is too much. just ask any woman that had the spiral or hell even the pill. first one can cause pain, cramps and internal bleeding. pills wreck havoc to their hormones and cause depression and/or lessened libido. just to name a few side effects.
this little injection takes only a few minutes, hurts for a day and then you are free to go without caring about making babies anymore. and if it is that easily reversible it's again just a trip to the doc, a little sting and your baby juices are back at their regular job.
Messofanego
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If you actually wanted to use a contraceptive, a mere injection shouldn't deter you.
ryutaro's mama
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Exactly my thought when I read that. This guy probably faints over a paper cut.
shaowebb
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Google how IUDs are implanted into the uterus. then come back and tell me how disgusting a needle to the dick is.
ShironRedshift
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One, that pill is not some walk in the park. It has any number of side effects, ranging from fluctuations in to completely killing any interest in sex, depression, various other aches/pains/discomfort, all owing to its hormonal nature. I severely doubt any man who's hesitant about Vasalgel would truly want a male equivalent to the pill, which would give them those same symptoms and result in shit like depression, sex drive being all over the place, problems even getting an erection, etc, that would come from hormonal birth control. This is making oral contraceptives sound like they're nothing, when that's far from the case.
Two, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS TALK ABOUT STICKING ANYTHING DOWN YOUR MOTHER FUCKING URETHRA? That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works! Where does this fucking shit keep coming from? God fucking damn it. AKLDJFSAKLJFSDKLJFSAD;KJFSDA.
Nothing is going down your fucking urinary track. It's a shot into the vas deferens, a tube that transports sperm from the testes inside the scrotum. You might say what difference does that make, but the point is you seem super opposed to something without making sure your ducks are all in a row and you even know what you're talking about at all. Getting that one shot is a much better dean than the options that much women have, but men can't even bother to get their facts right and would rather get all outraged over some fictional version of the procedure that doesn't even exist about shit going up their dicks to excuse themselves to not even learn about it at all, and talk about how you would rather have a male version of the pill than this? That you'd rather deal with the same type of side effects of the pill that women deal with every day due to the hormonal nature of such birth control, than just taking a needle once a decade and not having to worry about any of that or if you even remembered to take it on a given day or not? No, you're either lying or have no clue what you're asking for there. The trade-offs just aren't worth it.
But seriously though... where is all this stuff about this having anything to do with sticking anything in the penis or urethra coming from? Why does that one keep popping up in these threads? Just how little do men know about their bodies or any of this works at all, or how little are they interested in even caring at all how any of that actually works at all? Like, the acting like babies thing is one thing, but the sheer ignorance of how our bodies work on top of it is what really gets me, especially with this self-assured conviction with how a single needle shot is so oh-my-god-omega-terrible compared to the stuff women have to deal with as far as their options go. But when you've got it good like we men do, I suppose anything extra at all would feel like it's asking too much... But we can do better than that, or at least try to. At least I'd hope.
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I... I just can't at this point. Sigh...
Not my point. Even if it's disgusting for women as well it doesn't really take away from the other
TBiddy
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I never claimed they had no symptoms. But I vastly prefer eating a pill over getting something injected into my body. Call me old-fashioned, if you will, but that's how it is.
H.Protagonist
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It's funny how much better this thread seems to be going compared to the last one when the word changes from 'cement' to 'gel'.
But most women do regularly get one of these jammed in their hoo-ha. And you know what happens when they pull that little grip handle? It sure doesn't tickle.
As for the IUDs, maybe they're not as common as the pill, but the stories I've heard of the insertion, the horrific cramps, the tearing has put me off ever trying one. And that pain isn't just a quick jab like a needle. It lasts. Even the pill which you think is the easier option often has lasting painful side effects. I think most women would jump at the chance for a single quick jab in the genitals over that mess.
But most women do regularly get one of these jammed in their hoo-ha. And you know what happens when they pull that little grip handle? It sure doesn't tickle.
As for the IUDs, maybe they're not as common as the pill, but the stories I've heard of the insertion, the horrific cramps, the tearing has put me off ever trying one. And that pain isn't just a quick jab like a needle. It lasts. Even the pill which you think is the easier option often has lasting painful side effects. I think most women would jump at the chance for a single quick jab in the genitals over that mess.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
This is such a horrible stance. Are you fine with the pill? If you got a pill with the same negative effects would you take it instead of a single injection?
Jesus, guys are really the most egotistical when it comes to contraceptives. Our penises are not some porcelain figure. They can handle it. Stop being such a man about it and woman up.
Writing that last sentence got me thinking, why is "man up" considered "tough up" when it's always women and gays who get dealt the really bad deals in life and have to suck it up? Boys cry more than girls. Boys get told they're fine as they are while girls have to suck it up and be better. Gays get called "sissies" when they're literally taking up the ass. Damn, guys really do project like a fucking Epson.
Deal breaker if not
Fancy Clown
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Sign me up. Both the pill and IUD have unpleasant side effects for my GF, so it this thing works I'd get it in a heartbeat.
Haha sorry I propably don't have all my facts together on this one and as someone who doesn't have sex my motivation to seek out the correct and updated information regarding these things is at an all time low but I didn't mean to spread alt facts or anything. Kind of just reacted to the mental image of having a needle in my dick.
It's not really based on the current social climate but the one of old where it propably meant something more physical. Boys cry more than girls? News to me though, not that there would be anything wrong with boys crying. Can't even remember when I cried last time. Could be years.
ryutaro's mama
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🙄
clockworkinyou
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It's like building a wall to keep all my future selves within my borders and making me great again.
I may volunteer for this.
I may volunteer for this.
andthebeatgoeson
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Nice. Soon we'll have to hand a debate on why men's contraception should be covered by insurance but dirty girls contraception is an abomination unto the Lord and shouldn't be covered.
Lionheart1827
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Same here, I donated last year and I'm glad to see the progress they're making.
And a lot of you people in this thread need to go take sex ed again. Christ.
ryutaro's mama
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No lies detected.
Messofanego
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Call me old fashioned buy I'd rather take a little prick to my prick with no ill consequences than depression and all number of side effects caused by a pill.
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_/¯What do you mean 'again'? My sex ed class didn't talk about any of these things. The only male contraceptive that was mentioned was Condom. No information about balls etc. aside from "sperm comes from testicles" stuff. It was mostly about women, vagina and pregnancy. I hope they teach the kids in school better these days about these things.
TBiddy
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Call me old fashioned buy I'd rather take a little prick to my prick with no ill consequences than depression and all number of side effects caused by a pill.
¯_(ツ
Good for you. Besides, if Vasalgel really is 100% free from sideeffects, it might possibly be a world first. I can't think of any other medicine that can claim that.
ginger ninja
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Not my point. Even if it's disgusting for women as well it doesn't really take away from the other
So you are absically saying that women just have to deal with it, no matter how horrifying it is, but a little poke to your privates is infinitly worse? ok
ryutaro's mama
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He is probably talking about the people asking if they will still be able to "give facials" or have an "O face" after the procedure.
To ask those questions means you don't have an understanding of the male anatomy.
Messofanego
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Male fragility?
Elfotografoalocado
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Afaik it's the same chemicals, but in the wstern commercial implementation.
I'm signing up as soon as this is proven harmless and approved.
Also, what is the whole fuss with having this done to you? You don't get flu shots? Well these are baby shots, and they last 10 years. I'd rather this than have my GF shove a sharp and painful piece of metal up her uterus.
Phoenix RISING
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You already know I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is, that I don't want to do that, so I won't subject a woman to have sex with me when I'm clearly not ready to pull my weight in the whole contraceptive deal. If a woman said to me that she doesn't have sex because she doesn't want to bother with painful and side-effect having contraceptives I would understand.
ryutaro's mama
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And this procedure is basically a vasectomy. men with that can still orgasm and ejaculate.
The main driver in the male ejaculation is the prostate. It produces the carrier liquid for the sperm. thus you will ejaculate just clear liquid without sperm inside. Orgasms are produced by muscular contractions and the nervous system. it happens mostly in the brain.
Sperm, which gets blocked, is still produced, there is only a roadblock to prevent them from coming out. everything else, including their production, is left untouched.
And this concludes the sex-ed class for today
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no I didnt know that you meant that. it wasnt clear to me. Sorry for the wrong assumption, this is now a much more understandable description. With this i can agree.
Zoe
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The rate of side effects was higher and they were more severe than the typical effects for women.
Just because women had to put up with shitty medical practices in the past doesn't mean we have to punish men now. We should be striving for better options on both sides.
SolidusDave
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What does this have to do with being old fashioned?! It just sounds like a mix of entitlement and being a crybaby.
So you don't get vaccinated either? No Tooth fillings? Will you tell your doctor to keep that hip replacement out of your body because you are old fashioned?
If anything a mechanical solution basically plugging a pipe is more old fashioned then getting orally injected (a pill is entering your body too you know) with a bunch of hormones/ chemicals.
And wtf this is still with monkeys??? I'm waiting since like 15 years for this shit as we have no alternative but an actual surgery which I'm getting closer and closer to despite the price and the possible side effects...
johancruijff
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TBiddy
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What's up with the countless strawmen? I'm talking in terms of contraception. Of course I'm vaccinated.
ryutaro's mama
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Oh I know this from first hand (no pun intended) experience, which is why seeing those questions gave me a chuckle.
I'll admit my first reaction was squeamish but honestly speaking, taking a few seconds to analyze your own perspective, you'll understand why it's far more palatable than what women have to go through in terms of contraceptives.
A small prick from a needle into your naughty bits is a momentary sacrifice we should all be willing to put up with in retrospect.
A small prick from a needle into your naughty bits is a momentary sacrifice we should all be willing to put up with in retrospect.
SolidusDave
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It's not that much of a strawmen? To preemptivly defend yourself from possible diseases you are willing to get multiple needles injected into you.
Would you honestly prefer taking some anti-hepatitis pill every day over those years?
This one is even just one injection for a decade of no babies.
johancruijff
Banned
i mean
i have a Prince Albert, but the idea of an injection still makes me uncomfortable
then you reflect for a second and it's doable
close your eyes and bam you're shooting blanks
i have a Prince Albert, but the idea of an injection still makes me uncomfortable
then you reflect for a second and it's doable
close your eyes and bam you're shooting blanks
TBiddy
Member
Yes it is. You're accusing me of something I've not said a word about.
I'd prefer not to do anything to my body with regards to protection, be it pills or be it gel or a vasectomy. Condoms do their job, just fine. But if I had to choose, it'd be the pills. I can always stop taking the pills. There's no guarantee that the gel is reversible.
SolidusDave
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Ok fine that's your decision. Just seems like a illogical stance regarding win/risk.
But:
But:
Actually there is. It's one of the reasons why people want it over vasectomy (which in most cases also is reversible though nowadays. But obviously way more complicated than dissolving a piece of gel).
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