Rollins should give the US title to Xavier.
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Summerslam 2015 |OT| He hath loosed the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword
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Rollins should give the US title to Xavier.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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If they want to turn Rollins face, having him wrestle twice and win on the same night would be a great way to do it.
There are tons of issues with this "Heel" Taker
1 - He faced Bray at WM. 100% shouldn't have.
2 - There was no hard sell on it. It was simply 'oh, he's here for payback yay!' not 'oh, he cost Brock boo!' Having wrestlers be confused about his allegiance and motivations behind it make it worse.
3 - The low blows making it look like he can't beat Brock legitimately is cheap and simply doesn't work because he's a Legend and resorting to it this late in the game.
4 - Bellkeeper seeing the tap happen through 2 bodies is just BAD and destroys and sense of character progression and storyline because it sucked the energy out of the match.
SymbiantXenos
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There is literally no way possible to have the finish we had tonight and not do Lesnar/Taker 3.
Bluekaveli
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HeisenbergLannister
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Survivor Series is a retirement match for Taker if he loses. Brock wins.
Taker comes out the next night on Raw to say goodbye, but Sting interrupts him and says "let's both do one final match at WM...against each other!"
Still sounds messy but what doesn't in their booking nowadays.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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It already happened 12 years ago when they were both younger and better wrestlers. I can't imagine it would compare favorably now.
sf2fanatic
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So after Survival Series
ElectricBlanketFire
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Bullshit finish.
I don't know maybe it's cause i've been used to poor finished in wrestling but i've learned see the "story finish" and the match / work by the wrestlers independently. That match was really incredible to me. They started stiff early and it was super disputed and balanced, fluid, violent and they sold like crazy. You can say whatever you want but young wrestlers don't sell like that. But that's me, wrestling works way better to me when wrestlers sell the exhaustion, and i can feel 10 minutes of hard fight was endured. Which is realllly rare with most of the roster. That's why i love Brock, cause his energy, the way he sells and what he does to his opponent make you feel like 5 minutes of match killed both men.
Also that was a funny summerslam. people saying it's the worst ppv eveer.. Well they have a bad memory
SmackCrackleNPop
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Seth Rollins winning both belts was cool.
Been done before though.
Been done before though.
Casuals aren't happy.
Alonso Dira obviously never saw December to Dismember
Frecklestein
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Seth Rollins winning both belts was cool.
Been done before though.
And you know what came next?
brisk tacos
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People just have no concept of what Undertaker has done for Brock's career. Even 13 years ago, he was as unselfish as could be against a rookie because the company was behind him. This is a man who let rookie Brock destroy him in HIAC, his signature match. A man who was willing to let Brock break the streak 4 years before he actually did handpick Brock to break his streak. And now he clearly tapped out to him and had to cheat to win.
Brock Lesnar is the new phenom. The new Undertaker. Taker is transferring 25 years of legacy to Brock, so Brock can replace him once and for all. Yet, people are upset about a bell ringing.
Brock Lesnar is the new phenom. The new Undertaker. Taker is transferring 25 years of legacy to Brock, so Brock can replace him once and for all. Yet, people are upset about a bell ringing.
I don't know maybe it's cause i've been used to poor finished in wrestling but i've learned see the "story finish" and the match / work by the wrestlers independently. That match was really incredible to me. They started stiff early and it was super disputed and balanced, fluid, violent and they sold like crazy. You can say whatever you want but young wrestlers don't sell like that. But that's me, wrestling works way better to me when wrestlers sell the exhaustion, and i can feel 10 minutes of hard fight was endured. Which is realllly rare with most of the roster. That's why i love Brock, cause his energy, the way he sells and what he does to his opponent make you feel like 5 minutes of match killed both men.
Also that was a funny summerslam. people saying it's the worst ppv eveer.. Well they have a bad memory
I'll agree with that part. Excellent ring work and Taker looked the best he has in years. Also, there have definitely been worse ppvs...
PHOENIXZERO
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And you know what came next?
see everyone forgot because when HHH wins in the main event it sucks and its forgettable
SmackCrackleNPop
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And you know what came next?
Triple H sure knows how to book Triple H matches to his liking, lol.
ThreePiMatt
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Yeah, there has to be some sort of good relationship between the two that they come from different generations but have worked so closely with each other like this. Mostly just a weird way for Undertaker to go, with the low blows and cheat finishes. On one level you have to think that Undertaker is being given the chance to dictate his own exit which makes you assume that he has some sort of payoff planned at the end of all of this.
I don't know maybe it's cause i've been used to poor finished in wrestling but i've learned see the "story finish" and the match / work by the wrestlers independently. That match was really incredible to me. They started stiff early and it was super disputed and balanced, fluid, violent and they sold like crazy. You can say whatever you want but young wrestlers don't sell like that. But that's me, wrestling works way better to me when wrestlers sell the exhaustion, and i can feel 10 minutes of hard fight was endured. Which is realllly rare with most of the roster. That's why i love Brock, cause his energy, the way he sells and what he does to his opponent make you feel like 5 minutes of match killed both men.
Also that was a funny summerslam. people saying it's the worst ppv eveer.. Well they have a bad memory
I don't think it was a bad PPV, but the 2 big matches had very, VERY bad finishes and one of them finished off the show. The Stewart one was bad because he just hung there forever like he was supposed to be conflicted but it was so obvious and it made it terrible.
The Brock-Taker finish was bad because
A - The timekeeper somehow saw Taker tap despite it being obstructed from his view
B - The timekeeper has NEVER rung the bell before without the ref's instructions
C - They've used instant replay before, why not now?
D - Because it was fucked up to such a degree, probably because it was convoluted, it just destroyed the match's atmosphere
E - There was no special timekeeper like Kane or Big Show to give reason behind the bell being rung, either.
There were a million ways to do it better than this. They could've EASILY made it a draw where Taker taps while getting the 3 at the same time. I know Taker and Angle did this, but's it been long enough to where not many remember it. This just feels like Taker getting his win back in a cheap, shitty way to deflate the product.
ElRenoRaven
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Did this guy on LAW actually say this was the best PPV of the year? Is he on fucking crack?
brisk tacos
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Another wise poster pointed out how Taker is the only true mythological creature in wrestling, that perhaps even transcends wrestling, and the only way to end a myth is to make you stop believing in the myth. Undertaker doing low blows and cheating is him clinging to the last shred of believably about his myth. And once Brock beats him again at Wrestlemania, the myth will finally be destroyed and passed on to the next generation phenom, Brock Lesnar.
FallingEdge
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Imagine a Seth + New Day stable...
they all wore white
The second half of the show... felt flat in attendance.
I think 4 hours was too much time.
The Stewart heel... face turn was strange. Hopefully explained.
Crowd was mostly dead for the Divas match, don't think it helped no one knew the rules until Team BAD was eliminated.
Taker/Brock ending didn't play so well, I guess purpose of it was no one saw the tap out, but the crowd was more confused than anything.
I think 4 hours was too much time.
The Stewart heel... face turn was strange. Hopefully explained.
Crowd was mostly dead for the Divas match, don't think it helped no one knew the rules until Team BAD was eliminated.
Taker/Brock ending didn't play so well, I guess purpose of it was no one saw the tap out, but the crowd was more confused than anything.
jinxthejiv
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Sting is most likely going to be on Raw tomorrow:
Ninja Scooter
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They explained the rules before the match started, so...Brooklyn probably didn't listen to New Day's 101 on Hip Hop.
brisk tacos
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Crowd was dead for most of the show. Crowds can't even stay hot for a 3 hour Raw. Add an extra hour, plus an hour pre-show, and you're going to blame the crowd being dead 4 hours into the night on the women?
Oh no, I totally get that 4 hours is way too long for a show.
Especially one that was so oddly paced
Obviously don't watch NXT
They should've started with the Tag Match. The New Day are the most face-like heels right now. A Stone Cold tag team, if you will.
I don't get why Owens/Cesaro was so high up on the card, though. I mean, it was a great match, and probably match of the night when you consider it was just a straight up wrestling match with no shit finish.
I don't get why Owens/Cesaro was so high up on the card, though. I mean, it was a great match, and probably match of the night when you consider it was just a straight up wrestling match with no shit finish.
RellyRell28
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Isn't Sportscenter supposed to be from Summerslam today?
brisk tacos
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The crowd barely reacted to anything even at the start of the show. The same arena was hotter for the Vaudvillains the night before than almost anything at Summerslam.
It was the cool down spot that used to belong to the Divas. A straight match with no shenanigans is what you need after a title match with Jon Stewart and before a main event with a controversial finish. People wouldn't have batted an eye of the Divas match had been put in that position.
Hmm maybe it was different in person, but they seemed to have been into a lot of things throughout the show.
brisk tacos
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It was pretty dead on TV. Besides a few parts of Cena/Rollins and Taker/Brock, the crowd seemed completely disinterested all night.
OriginofHysteria
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I lost my shit seeing Kofi doing his celly after winning.
Dk wtf he's talking about. Crowd was scorching for new day, cena/Rollins, and the main event
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