Steve Youngblood
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I was joking. I had hoped that would be obvious, but apparently it wasn't.
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Super Mario 3D World | Review Thread
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I was joking. I had hoped that would be obvious, but apparently it wasn't.
randomengine
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Lord_Byron28
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The blue coin search was terrible because it was obvious padding to match 64's 120 stars. We know of a number of scrapped levels which explains why it feels incomplete. This game along with WW were rush released by Iwata to try and save the GCN. I love Sunshine and it was a great game but there was some polish missing from the game and it was obvious content was missing so they threw a ton of blue coins everywhere to make up for it.
Eh, I see what you mean. But I still thought it was a cool challenge to complete and fun as hell. As far as missing/unfinished content, that probably applies to the majority of games, and more so the good ones than the bad ones. Mario 64 had some stuff like that too - underwater glitch-inducing doors to nowhere, etc.
goldenpp72
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The blue coins were awful because there wasn't a good way to track which ones you already got, and the fact many were hidden in ways that made no sense (spray this random wall for a bit.. OMG COIN)
Sunshine is certainly one of the worst mainline Mario titles, but when that is a series of the best games ever, it still ends up being a good game. It certainly had some issues, the awful story and at times art, the lack of variety in themes, at times unruly camera, etc, but all in all it was still probably the best pure platformer of the generation and hardly 'awful' as some would state.
It's an interesting experimental game during a weird Nintendo era, for that it will always hold a soft spot in my heart even if it's not as good as any other 3D Mario game.
TheRedSnifit
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Also, a clunky camera and an inordinate amount of jankiness (the Pachinko level says hi).
GrotesqueBeauty
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Uh, that was Sunshine dude.
Sylverstone14
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Not even harshing your mellow but...
...never thought I'd read those words together in a sentence.
Yeah, basically this
TouchMyBox
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I believe I would do anything for an HD remaster and expansion of the "secret of" levels from sunshine.
Looking back, Shawn E nails it when he starts doing his rave about Galaxy 1 on GFW. Right on the 57 minute mark. Still relevant today in associating how great the Wii U is.
http://download.gamevideos.com/Podcasts/CGW/122007.mp3
http://download.gamevideos.com/Podcasts/CGW/122007.mp3
Dion Blaster
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Eh Wii rubbed me the wrong way. Definitely agree on 3>W, as for U it's really good, I think I'd have to decide if it makes my pantheon a few years from now though to see if it stands the test of time. It doesn't blow me away like the Galaxies.
I found Sunshine to be a really tedious game. A good bunch of Shines just aren't that fun to get (most regular red coins ones, a good bunch of the ones involving Yoshi in any form, the godawful watermelon contest and so on...). It does have some amazing challenges indeed, but they're burried under a big pile of shitty ones. And dear god, if there's one game to show you there shouldn't be any sort of "story" in a mario game, it's Sunshine.
Rosalina's backstory being at the polar opposite of the spectrum, as proof of why story in Mario isn't by default a terrible thing.
Tihihihii.
I have all NSMB games including Luigi (but haven't played it) but I'm missing U. I can't even finish the 1st world of Wii in its entirety, bored me too.
I did finish 2 tho. Bit boring but liked it enough to beat it, that's gotta count for something.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Rosalina's backstory being at the polar opposite of the spectrum, as proof of why story in Mario isn't by default a terrible thing.
I couldn't finish galaxy 2 because I had no motivation... I wanted to finish the story in Galaxy one and loved the lore. So strange to me the decision of galaxy 2 to just float around on a Mario head in space and take such a step back narratively.
Which Dissapointrd me because the coursed were arguably better, it just felt like more of what I had already did and I eventually moved on. Poor rosalina.
Davey Cakes
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Same here! At a point it just became...too many. And a lot of them were shots in the dark, too.
i felt like Galaxy 1 kept throwing the "story" in your face too much. i mean, it was cool at the time. it gave an epic feel, like you were embarking on something huge
but i'm really, really glad they did away with all that in Galaxy 2. Galaxy 2 really felt like the meat and potatoes of what Galaxy was all about
but i'm really, really glad they did away with all that in Galaxy 2. Galaxy 2 really felt like the meat and potatoes of what Galaxy was all about
evilromero
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Nose Master
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Should I feel bad for buying a Wii-U before a PS4? Cause, I'm gonna. Just for this.
evilromero
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This is the game I wish I got with the Wii U last year.
Why should you feel bad for buying a console for the (most likely) best next gen game so far?
goldenpp72
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Real men get all the blue coins.
I still remember my OCD for this game being pushed to the limit. I beat the game and decided to go for everything, but could not determine which blue coins I didn't get, so I restarted the whole game and wrote down all I did find, and used an ign guide to find the really stupid ones -_-
Sunshine was also the last time I did my tradition of buying a DQ Blizzard before playing a Mario game to make it extra special, thankfully Galaxy warmed my bitter hard regardless of the lack of ice cream.
The story in Galaxy 1 was confined to a room you never had to go in. I don't feel like it was forced at all.
Galaxy 2 did get rid of the useless hub world stuff so you could just get right to the levels though, and that was awesome.
princemarth23
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Nope. It's a good decision. If you look at 2014s lineup of exclusive games, Wii U has by far the strongest lineup of the 3 so far imo.
Minus the opening cutscene and crazy ending, Galaxy 1 didn't really do that much to push the story. You're reminded of it a lot more because you're constantly moving through the observatory to get to the actual stages, but Rosalina doesn't participate any more than say, Lubba.
Rosalina's backstory being at the polar opposite of the spectrum, as proof of why story in Mario isn't by default a terrible thing.
Yeah except the last few chapters whipped up all the dust on my Wii and caused a reaction in my tearducts.
You neglect to mention the storybook -- you would unlock new chapters in it as the game progressed, eventually revealing the tragic backstory of Rosalina, the death of her parents, and how she started an orphanage for Luma.
Apparently Koizumi had to sneak it in because Miyamoto is a butt-munch who also apparently didn't like swinging Bowser by the tail A.K.A. Most Iconic Moment of Super Mario 64.
Right, but that remains tucked away in an optional room. It's a nice addition but it doesn't involve the player at all.
Should you feel bad for having fun? Nope. Besides you can get ps4 later/ wallet am cry.
But it's there. It involves the player in that the player can go into that room, and enjoy more and more of her story as the game progresses. SMG2 had nothing notable to its narrative and felt less special by comparison.
Didn't Koizumi come up with the brilliant three-day time cycle in Majora's Mask?
God among men. Nice hair, too.
Dion Blaster
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It was completely optional though, so it didn't get pushed in your face. In fact the first time I played the game I think I read chapter 1 and then never returned to the library.
And that's great! SMG1 had a surprisingly good story, but the game never forced it down your throat. It was the best of both worlds -- story there if you want it, but you're free to carry on without it, as well.
Holy shit, he did that?
First I heard of him was DK Jungle Beat. Obviously he has been around a lot longer, but his influence seems to be far bigger than what he is known for.
Karsticles
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It was obvious. Your joke was communicated well.
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It's why i'll always prefer it over SMG2 and any Mario game. The story... was actually there and it made you feel emotion for a Mario character. (Practically unheard of outside of RPG Mario titles)
I'm definitely picking up a Wii U for this, monster hunter 3 ultimate, Wonderful 101, and pikmin 3.
I so can't wait. 3D World looks so good.- Status