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[SoldnerKei]

I assume gaf's rules are stricter regarding stuff like that no? Considering the language they casually throw around on Smashboards it doesn't seem particularly interested in staying sfw/filter friendly.

perhaps that's why I feel it nicer, nevertheless it can get pretty silly when it comes to stuff like that, for the good or the bad

at least Smash 4 is getting love in here, even at my local community the Melee-bers are bashing the game like it was cancer, not even sakurai, just the game, I really want that Nintendo takes feedback seriously, but that's something they rarely do right?

 

[theprodigy]

I pretty much see them like Assists in MvC2 & (U)MvC3. Hopefully custom moves are easy to select so tournaments can use them, they could prove useful for certain match-ups (especially with the Miis & Palutena having completely different moves to choose from, assuming the Miis will be tournament legal).

Yeah that's what I consider them to be like

 

[Crocodile]

Customizable moves on the other hand have the potential to be great in competitive play, as long as they're all side grades and not upgrades, the moment one of the customizations becomes the only option as opposed to just a little bit of extra help against certain matchups is when customizing moves gets thrown out of tournaments.

Just like grooves in CvS2 and assists in Marve or Skullgirls, there are going to be certain custom moves or combination of custom moves that are just generally better/more useful than others. It's 100% unavoidable.

 

[Rhapsody]

I assume gaf's rules are stricter regarding stuff like that no? Considering the language they casually throw around on Smashboards it doesn't seem particularly interested in staying sfw/filter friendly.

Depends on the mod, I guess. They definitely get infracted for censor bypassing.
Honestly the Smash 4 area is a mess because it's usually hectic. The places outside of that, it's much more tame and strict.

As for tourneys, I doubt they'll do any of the customized movesets.

 

[SuperSah]

Well damn, the training room music is DIFFERENT for all characters! Noticed on 3DS Direct feeds.

Also, we can also hear the menu theme and the full Punch Out track from a Smash Run direct-feed video!

 

[Spinluck]

Since Sakurai recommends the wii lan adapter, does anyone know the best third party one to use? I couldn't find the official one anywhere, not even on Nintendo's site.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00484IEJS?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

Happy to help!

 

[dmg04]

Friday (today):

Not a bad week.

Everyone but mario is smiling.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

I assume gaf's rules are stricter regarding stuff like that no? Considering the language they casually throw around on Smashboards it doesn't seem particularly interested in staying sfw/filter friendly.

Unrelated to your post, but did you do Pac-Man already? I really want to change my avatar.

 

[curlyfriski]

Isn't smash boards just the worst

Every member hates smash 4 with a burning passion and wants sakurai to die!

And they love melee

I heard they hate fun

 

[jph139]

Hey Ryce, following your 3DS character select screen deduction, I was wondering if I could do it myself on the Wii U version, but there's one thing that's bugging me--Greninja is listed before Pikachu. Compared to every other series in both versions that makes no sense. Either Greninja will be to the left of Pikachu, which would be odd, or the Pokemon characters aren't going to be arranged in one neat little row like the other series seem to be.

Though I think I figured it out to be four rows of twelve though. The top row probably goes:

Mario - Luigi - Peach - Bowser - Rosalina - Yoshi - Donkey Kong - Diddy Kong - Wario - Chorus Men - Samus - Zero Suit Samus

I think. Samus and Zero Suit Samus I am certain are in that first row, because that would explain why they are listed before the Zelda characters on the Wii U version instead of after like in the 3DS version.

Second row probably starts out Link - Zelda - Sheik - Ganondorf - Toon Link, though beyond that I don't know.

I'm thinking four rows of twelve as well... probably with Mario, Link, Kirby, and Pikachu down the far left side. Assuming your first row is correct:

Link - Zelda - Sheik - Ganondorf - Toon Link - Shulk - Villager - Ice Climber - Game & Watch - R.O.B. - Pit - Palutena
Kirby - Meta Knight - King Dedede - Fox - Falco - Wolf - Captain Falcon - Marth - Ike - Chrom - Ness - Greninja
Pikachu - Charizard - Lucario - Jigglypuff - Olimar - Little Mac - Wii Fit Trainer - Mii Fighters - Mega Man - Sonic - Pac-Man - Random

The only ones who are way out of place here are Greninja and Shulk. That's everyone confirmed + Gematsu leak + Random for a total of 47 fighters. Interestingly enough, though, other than Chorus Kids, Little Mac, Shulk, and Villager, the entire thing is in rough chronological order... first two rows are NES and earlier, third row is late NES and SNES, bottom row is most recent (and third parties).

 

[Vidiot]

I'm surprisingly excited to play as my Mii in Smash. I mean they can't top actual characters but seeing a cartoon version of myself fighting along with Mario, Link, Samus, etc is very cool. Especially with the custom movesets and clothing.

 

[Rynocirator]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00484IEJS?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

Happy to help!

Thank you very much!

 

[shadyspace]

Hey guys was there any Smash 3DS extended footage showed off that I somehow missed? Smash Wii U had the Invitational and a Treehouse showing but I haven't seen any of 3DS Smash beyond trailer snippets

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Unrelated to your post, but did you do Pac-Man already? I really want to change my avatar.

I've been a bit busy, can you cut it out to make an avatar yourself?

 

[Anth0ny]

47 characters confirmed

let the mockups begin

 

[Kouichi]

I'm surprisingly excited to pay as my Mii in Smash. I mean they can't top actual characters but seeing a cartoon version of myself fighting along with Mario, Link, Samus, etc is very cool. Especially with the custom movesets and clothing.

I feel the same way. For those who plan to use the Mii Fighters, which one are you guys most interested in?

Mii Shooter looks like a ton of fun.

 

[zroid]

Hey guys was there any Smash 3DS extended footage showed off that I somehow missed? Smash Wii U had the Invitational and a Treehouse showing but I haven't seen any of 3DS Smash beyond trailer snippets

yep Treehouse did the 3DS version too.

 

[shadyspace]

yep Treehouse did the 3DS version too.

Cool, thanks. Gotta hunt down an archive of that.

 

[Luqi]

I think the problem we are seeing a lot is: people are expecting this to Melee2 and this WON'T be Melee2.

Honestly, I don't play competitive, I don't even intend to but I want to play and have fun, I want to play with my friends and I want to play for glory on the online mode and THIS will be delivered with Sm4sh.

People complaining / hating on it and saying Melee is better are not understading what the concept of a new game means, it means it need to target more people, it means it need more players, it means it need to be accessible and this people are forgetting that just because of X and Y mechanics.

I'll have tons of fun with Sm4sh so I'm hyped.

 

[MrSaturn99]

Another gem from Smashboards:

Despite how toxic Smashboards has become over the past decade, this comes across as something you'd find on Miiverse lmao

 

[Luqi]

yep Treehouse did the 3DS version too.

do you happen to have a link on that? I'm a little bit more hyped for the 3DS version mostly because I'll be able to play everywhere and that's kinda important to me...

 

[Spring-Loaded]

I've been a bit busy, can you cut it out to make an avatar yourself?

How will you fit ridley into one of those spaces?

 

[ArchedThunder]

47 characters confirmed

let the mockups begin

Or 48 and the Random option goes away and you select a random character in a different way.

 

[botty]

I've been a bit busy, can you cut it out to make an avatar yourself?

Have you made a pixel sakurai ?

 

[Lord_Byron28]

47 characters confirmed

let the mockups begin

Just curious but how is 47 confirmed?

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Or 48 and the Random option goes away and you select a random character in a different way.

Or 100 if the spots shrink to accommodate more

 

[georly]

Cool, thanks. Gotta hunt down an archive of that.

It'll be on nintendo's youtube soon, likely today (based on the way they've been updating).

Amiibo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odUjMhc6YgU
Smash 3DS Features trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRq5bz6ZNYU
Smash Roundtable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDsmjbifWUk
People's Challenger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVloLgoJHA

Treehouse:
Wii U (day 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edCQDRuL8Dk

 

[Neoriceisgood]

How will you fit ridley into one of those spaces?

No reason to assume we'll ever find out.

Have you made a pixel sakurai ?

Nope, maybe after wednesday. I'm quite busy until then.

 

[Man God]

Isn't it amusing that Sonic has the lowest key reveal of any character that got its own video?

 

[udivision]

Everyone but mario is smiling.

Mario's lost in thought:

"... None of you are relevant anymore. I don't want to end up you like these guys..."

 

[BassForever]

Another gem from Smashboards:

Oh dear lol

 

[Shadow Hog]

I've been a bit busy, can you cut it out to make an avatar yourself?

You might want to make a non-animated version for that purpose at some point; I'm seeing noticeable dithering on Pac-Man's gloves that I'm assuming you're not intending to exist, presumably brought about by GIF's 256 color limit (well, technically not true, but it's not like any image editing software out there supports true-color GIFs that I've ever seen).

No rush tho. Not like I need it

 

[Lord_Byron28]

Isn't it amusing that Sonic has the lowest key reveal of any character that got its own video?

I assume its because he was already in Brawl so its not as a big deal as the others and he is the only returning vet with his own trailer.

 

[Kriken]

47 characters confirmed

let the mockups begin

That's not Fox

 

[Beelzebufo]

47 characters confirmed

let the mockups begin

So current roster (33, I think Mii will be one spot)
+
Remaining leaked newcomers (3)
+
Remaining Brawl veterans (13)
-
Lucas and Snake cut (2)
=
47!

So no Mewtwo

This is assuming Mii has a roster spot, which may not be the case since it's not available online. If that's the case, there could be one more character.

 

[BassForever]

I hope that Smash Boards mods are playing whack a mole right now because damn some of the comments people have been posting here would get you banned on gamefaqs lol

 

[Revven]

Hype tournament this weekend, going to work on a thread for it. BRRRBBBBB

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

47 characters confirmed

let the mockups begin

Fuck, that exactly fits with the Gematsu leak assuming Snake, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Lucas are cut.

Not that I dislike the new roster, but it's disappointing we likely know it already. Sort of diminishes the hype.

 

[mrhej]

So current roster (33, I think Mii will be one spot)
+
Remaining leaked newcomers (3)
+
Remaining Brawl veterans (13)
-
Lucas and Snake cut (2)
=
47!

So no Mewtwo

This is assuming Mii has a roster spot, which may not be the case since it's not available online. If that's the case, there could be one more character.

How do you know Lucas will be cut?

 

[Beelzebufo]

How do you know Lucas will be cut?

We don't know for sure, but it was leaked that he was strongly considered to be cut at some point in development, and the roster would be 48 if someone else didn't get cut.

 

[BassForever]

Where was 47 confirmed?

 

[Loco4Coco]

EDIT!

 

[Kouichi]

Hype tournament this weekend, going to work on a thread for it. BRRRBBBBB

Perfect timing. I'm totally down for a hype Smash tournament after all the Smash news!

 

[BassForever]

Dude got triple mushroom in 2nd place, FOH!

Triple mushroom is a new item in smash bros? Megaton!

 

[Ryce]

I added a DLC toggle to my select screen.

 

[ffdgh]

Considering they changed Sonic's voice actor to a much less annoying one (Roger Craig Smith, known for Chris Redfield, Ezio, & Younger Batman in Arkham Origins), the taunt change was kinda expected.

I've also compiled a list of known characters who had voice actor swaps. Let me know if I missed anyone.

- Sonic
- Pit
- Lucario
- Fox

Pit was for the absolute best....wait, No more Goku Lucario?

 

[IntelliHeath]

How do you know Lucas will be cut?

There is a third leak from Sal's source specifically said that lucas might be getting cut.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Pit was for the absolute best....wait, No more Goku Lucario?

No, I believe now it's actually Goku, and it wasn't before.

 

[Loco4Coco]

Triple mushroom is a new item in smash bros? Megaton!

LOL, thought I was still in the MK8 thread!

 

[JoeInky]

I think the problem we are seeing a lot is: people are expecting this to Melee2 and this WON'T be Melee2.

Honestly, I don't play competitive, I don't even intend to but I want to play and have fun, I want to play with my friends and I want to play for glory on the online mode and THIS will be delivered with Sm4sh.

People complaining / hating on it and saying Melee is better are not understading what the concept of a new game means, it means it need to target more people, it means it need more players, it means it need to be accessible and this people are forgetting that just because of X and Y mechanics.

I'll have tons of fun with Sm4sh so I'm hyped.

You seem to be under the impression that people want melee 2 and not just a mechanically sound game, your post just makes it look like you don't understand how this game could be good competitively without being melee 2.

Reducing landing lag and giving more options out of dash doesn't suddenly make the game less accessible, it makes it more fun at every skill level and it makes it more fun and exciting to watch as a spectator sport.

More people playing the game at a competitive level gets people more excited about the game, current owners see players doing things they didn't even think was possible and it gets them to explore the depth offered to them, people talk about it more and it becomes able to reach an even wider audience. It can make smash something special, something more than any of the others have been.

I think if just having loads of new characters and items and general content makes you excited and happy about the game without really caring about the depths of the mechanics then you shouldn't really be complaining about people who just want smash 4 to be a better game.

It's hard being someone who wants so much for the game, who really wants to see it grow and become appreciated as the deep, exciting, interesting game that it can be when you get put down at almost every bloody turn by people who are happy with it just being some random game you play once in a while to mess around or by people who don't think it should be regarded as highly as the likes of SF or MvC.

It's pretty heart-breaking when even the developer of the game acts the same way sometimes.

I can completely understand why people from smashboards act as vitriolic as they do, it's definitely not the best mindset and it definitely doesn't help our community, but people get like that when both casual players, the FGC and sakurai have shunned them for so long.

It's really hard to get across just how much I fucking love smash bros. at all levels of play and just want to see it become something brilliant that everyone can enjoy, so this post just ended up being all over the place, it's just annoying how much I'm seeing this attitude lately.