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Tales of the Abyss US version - What's the deal?
- Thread starter SantaC
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DarknessTear
Banned
Maybe they finally plan on doing one right.
Huahua no way.
Huahua no way.
FateBreaker
Member
Dude at the Tales forums says it's still on track for October, but I've been harassing him to delay it and put in voice acting for the skits and concentrate on marketing, AND put it out at a more dried-up time.
However, EBGames just listened the strategy guide for 10/15....so, it must be very close.
However, EBGames just listened the strategy guide for 10/15....so, it must be very close.
DIrtyWeasel
Member
I'd go with October 10 because thats the date i've seen on multiple sites and I don't know what Videogameplus is.
Besides, December 1st is a Friday. When stores/websites are unsure of release dates, they set the to the first of a month until they know.
Besides, December 1st is a Friday. When stores/websites are unsure of release dates, they set the to the first of a month until they know.
SantaC said:
There are so many other options available this Fall, I don't see why anyone would allow themselves to be held hostage by a stupid 5th rate loser company like Namco Hometek. Well then again since none of their RPGs really sell, I guess it's only a small tiny silly percentage of gamers that enjoy self abuse. :lol
FateBreaker
Member
duckroll said:
Oh stop it. The game is supposed to be excellent. We can handle skits not being voice-acted and maybe blood not shown.
I certainly don't support what Namco Hometek is doing with the US release, but the game was really good and I would recommend it to people even with the cuts.
I'll never buy another US release of a Tales game, though.
What exactly is suppoed to be cut, though? I can't recall anything that would deem such an action within the game.
I'll never buy another US release of a Tales game, though.
What exactly is suppoed to be cut, though? I can't recall anything that would deem such an action within the game.
At this point it's more of an insult to the US consumers than anything else. If you're too lazy to dub the entire game, sell your soul to Satan so SCEA will let you leave in the Japanese voice acting (or at least make the skits regular button-advanced dialog sequences). If Japan's CERO, one of the most whiny ratings boards out there, will allow a given amount of blood, surely you can get aim for the matching ESRB rating. If they'd stop treating the people who buy their games in the US like second-class citizens by always removing stuff because they're too cheap or lazy or both, maybe I would be able to complain about the game purely on its own merits (or lack thereof) rather than what shitty thing Namco Hometek has done this week. :lolFateBreaker said:
FateBreaker
Member
Bebpo said:I'm pretty sure we could get a group of gaffers to voice all the characters in all the skits for free if budget was the problem
OMG...Bebpo, BEST IDEA EVER.
You know it's interesting. I created a poll/thread in the TotA forums there, and basically asking would a delay for voiced-out skits be worth it? Surprisingly, it's pretty neck and neck if you travel there to see the results. Seems like most don't give a damn about the voiced skits. (I'd like...but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to.)
FateBreaker
Member
LegatoB said:
An insult? God, you guys go to the extreme. It sucks, but it's OK, especially for a 40-dollar price tag. Aren't we happy this is coming here in the first place?
FateBreaker said:
Yep. And there's the reason why they don't care enough to spend the $$$ and time on them. :\
I really do wonder how techinically hard it would be to fan-dub a game. It would be a pretty amusing experiment to get a GAF group together on a weekend and dub an entire game
FateBreaker
Member
I give up :lol
Error2k4 said:
He's the ultimate apologist. He defends Namco for censoring Xenosaga games, he defends Namco for cutting out everything they can from Tales games, and backs them up like it's acceptable given the quality of localizations nowadays. Why should anyone give him a break for supporting mediocricy? If anything by taking this attitude he is just as guity as Namco Hometek for the quality of their localizations. No supply without the demand!
And no, no one is "lucky" to have these games in the first place. There are MANY companies who would be more than willing to localize these titles with far better standards, except Namco Hometek willfully blocks them so they can gut the games themselves. Everyone knows this. Continuing to support this bullshit is just retarded.
I find it hilarious that Fatebreaker will go to such lengths to defend Namco Hometek because of the supposed quality of all these games whenever word gets out that something is removed or censored, when he himself hasn't even played any of them. He's just a stupid bandwagoner based on impressions of others. That just makes it all the sadder. He's a delusion fanboy with no quality values. LAME.
FateBreaker
Member
duckroll said:
fanboy?
I play all of these games. From all the companies. Your thinking is off. I'm not a bandwagoner, I pretty much buy every big game that comes out or is recommended by neoGAF, and give a lot of games a chance if received well.
My whole point is yes, I frankly don't care about AN AMAZING ORGASMIC localization as much as I care about getting the game, period. I don't like Namco Hometek; I never said I did. I'm plenty sure that Atlus would translate it 100 times better. But Namco doesn't let others publish this series, so I have to..I suppose..compromise?
I like Namco's RPG's a lot -- Tales in particular. But that doesn't mean I like the US branch's localization. But since I can't read Japanese, why can't I be excited for the US version --crappy localization or not-- coming here?
No quality values? What, do you mean by that? I don't support the translation, I just support us getting these damn games. And I don't defend Namco with cersoring their stuff, I just don't go to the extreme; I mean, other than censoring blood, they didn't do too bad just with localizing xeno ep 3 ... did they?
DarknessTear
Banned
FateBreaker said:
You gotta fight the bullshit, man. Why should you be happy with their poor localization when you have to PAY for the game?
FateBreaker
Member
DarknessTear said:
because if the game itself is good, and is only offered in English by Hometek, what other option do I have? I don't have time to learn Japanese =\
SailorDaravon said:
Yeah, it was published by Capcom too. I had a thread some time back about how CERO doesn't seem to let Capcom get a break. Their own titles (RE4, Shadow of Rome, Dead Rising) all seem to have to undo the axe before getting a CERO rating, and even their US licensed titles like God of War get censored. Basically under CERO guidelines you can't have nudity, or certain realistic decapitations/multilations of human enemies. Capcom also publishes the GTA and True Crime games in Japan too, so I think they just have a negative image as far as violence and stuff goes. Sad.
LoathsomeCorpse
Member
It has nothing to do with laziness. It has to do with the budget, as the localization staff has said repeatedly.LegatoB said:
LegatoB said:
I doubt there's enough room on the disc to allow for both languages, given the amount of spoken dialogue in the game. And if you're talking about leaving in only Japanese, then forget it. SCEA won't allow it.
LegatoB said:
You can't compare CERO to ESRB. The matching ESRB rating for Tales of the Abyss would be "E." The ESRB would never rate a game with Abyss' content "E." Ever.
Joe Molotov
Member
DarknessTear said:
Because the game's still fun? Not that this would factor into GAF's OMGWTF Overreaction Rating.
In effect, it's the same thing. Namco Hometek's management won't spent the resources to get it done right.LoathsomeCorpse said:
Oh no, it's quite clear SCEA will allow it if you're in good with them. Or are them. And I've seen nothing to indicate they've ever tried to get it in there in Japanese. Or tried just dubbing all the damn dialog.
I can and will compare them all I like! If an E is not enough for the game, give it an E10+ or a Teen (which is what most RPGs get ANYWAY). Hell, if a game's really got that much violent content, M will easily cover it (and no one is buying Xenosaga anyway, so who cares if it's M?
)FateBreaker
Member
Alex said:
No, honestly no.
The people that honestly care are the ones that know how awesome it is in the Japanese version; spoiled, perhaps. It'd be NICE to have it and no censoring of blood and crap, but I'm not basing the purchase of a potentially awesome game on that. I'm thankful for what I get -- even with their cheap-ass budget Namco has.
Hey, I just realized....... if Abyss is actually coming out in October..... there's still one more big title from last Dec in Japan left! In Dec 2005, Ryu ga Gotoku, Kingdom Hearts 2, Tales of the Abyss and Rogue Galaxy were released....... By Dec 2006, all the titles except Rogue Galaxy will have been released in the US! What's going on Sony! :lol
See here's the biggest problem I have with people like you. By NOT caring about the quality of a localization, and saying you're happy to have it in the first place, you're doing a HUGE injustice to people that actually put good time, effort and money into making a good localization. Are you saying that Atlus, Square Enix, and even Capcom these day, are totally WASTING THEIR TIME putting in more effort into localizations? I mean since you don't care at all, they must be!
FateBreaker said:
See here's the biggest problem I have with people like you. By NOT caring about the quality of a localization, and saying you're happy to have it in the first place, you're doing a HUGE injustice to people that actually put good time, effort and money into making a good localization. Are you saying that Atlus, Square Enix, and even Capcom these day, are totally WASTING THEIR TIME putting in more effort into localizations? I mean since you don't care at all, they must be!
FateBreaker
Member
duckroll said:
Yeah...strangely delayed; 1/30 now.