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[Eteric Rice]

Since the game is 480p in the arcades, wouldn't it have to be reworked for the PS3 and 360?

 

[Threi]

Wii should not get any worthwhile exclusive games so that i can continue complaining the the Wii has no worthwhile games and that i am going to sell it.


This isn't a rushed port or anything, this is being built on Wii hardware. There is no valid reason not to get it if you a)Want it bad enough and b)Already own a Wii.

 

[Grecco]

Wii should not get any worthwhile exclusive games so that i can continue complaining the the Wii has no worthwhile games and that i am going to sell it.

Or better yet. You want X Game buy a PS3 or an X360! But damn if theres a game i want on Wii it should come on PS3 or X360!

 

[SlaughterX]

Sorry but I'm not spending $500+ just to play this game.

 

[MarzipaNMOS]

Wii should not get any worthwhile exclusive games so that i can continue complaining the the Wii has no worthwhile games and that i am going to sell it.


This isn't a rushed port or anything, this is being built on Wii hardware. There is no valid reason not to get it if you a)Want it bad enough and b)Already own a Wii.

WELL WHAT IF I DONT HAVE A WII CUZ IM A HARDCORE GAMER AND WII ISNT HARDCORE

 

[Grecco]

Sorry but I'm not spending $500+ just to play this game.

Then Sorry you just wont play it?

 

[Eteric Rice]

Sorry but I'm not spending $500+ just to play this game.

Funny, people tell Wii owners to do this every week.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Sorry but I'm not spending $500+ just to play this game.

Then I'm sorry, you're going to have to chalk this up as another of life's little disappointments. But spare us all your sobbing, please.

 

[Kilrogg]

Or better yet. You want X Game buy a PS3 or an X360! But damn if theres a game i want on Wii it should come on PS3 or X360!

No, you don't understand! That's because the Wii is too expensive, especially if you consider that after Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, it will never ever get another good game, it's guaranteed.

 

[borghe]

It would be a bad thing because theyw ould have to sacrifice so much it wouldn't still be the same game. A 360/PS3 version of this game has nowhere to go but up. Try again please.

ummm.. they are already sacrificing a vastly superior control scheme by keeping it on 360/PS3, thus making it not the same game.

but the bottom line is this is what it is. I'm only hoping these statement will result in bans soon. it's on wii. if you want it, buy a wii and import. if you don't want to do that, leave the thread and whine somewhere else.

Funny, people tell Wii owners to do this every week.

Best. Response. EVAR!

 

[SlaughterX]

Lol, what do you mean not the same game, RE5 (or even 4 for that matter) was never originally developed witht he Wii control scheme in mind, therefore nothing is being sacrificed... YOU MUST TRY HARDER!

 

[Threi]

Or better yet. You want X Game buy a PS3 or an X360! But damn if theres a game i want on Wii it should come on PS3 or X360!

I understand a lot of the hate the Wii gets, and i agree with a lot of it. But this issue specifically is complete fanboy bullshit IMO.

So many users have said that what the Wii needs is not PS3/360 portdows or PS2/PSP ports. They want familiar experiences, and they want a promise of at least a certain amount of polish.

This is one game that has it and the same people wish for a PS360 port? The same ones that say Wii has no games they are interested in?

Despite the massive amount of bitching in the DQIX to DS thread and MH3/KH3 to Wii threads, there is an understandable position to be taken against them coming to those systems (although many MANY users in those threads do not present proper arguments and resort to juvenile bickering). Even if I come off as a defender of the "Wii side" I always acknowledge and respect their arguments. This situation specifically, however, I cannot acknowledge or respect. It is complete, complete bullshit IMO.

 

[borghe]

Lol, what do you mean not the same game, RE5 (or even 4 for that matter) was never originally developed witht he Wii control scheme in mind, therefore nothing is being sacrificed... YOU MUST TRY HARDER!

oh, you are one of THOSE. who needs vastly superior controls? Awesome controls were never what the RE series was about.

guess that pretty much wraps up your credibility in this thread.

 

[jrricky]

It would be a bad thing because they would have to sacrifice so much it wouldn't still be the same game. A 360/PS3 version of this game has nowhere to go but up. Try again please.

Just to join in on the fun....How is this a bad thing again and why do you care?

Lol, what do you mean not the same game, RE5 (or even 4 for that matter) was never originally developed witht he Wii control scheme in mind, therefore nothing is being sacrificed... YOU MUST TRY HARDER!

HOLY SHIT.:lol

 

[Ysiadmihi]

Lol, what do you mean not the same game, RE5 (or even 4 for that matter) was never originally developed witht he Wii control scheme in mind, therefore nothing is being sacrificed... YOU MUST TRY HARDER!

Oh dear :lol

This is so fun to watch.

 

[borghe]

well, to get off of that potential cluster fuck...

good to hear I'll be able to import this without problem. Hori Fighting Stick REDEEMED (though it already was for NeoGeo games anyway)

 

[SlaughterX]

Huh?

What I think people want fromt he Wii are games that ginuinely make good use out of the unique control scheme, not games that would have worked just as well on other consoles. If that's the case then why not just release it for the PS2, it has a better default controller, a much better selection of premium arcade sticks and pads, a much bigger install base, and on top of that they could still make it online with out friend codes.

Even the PS2 is a better system for this game if it actually has the power to run it on the same level as the arcade...

 

[Kilrogg]

The arcade version is based on the Wii hardware anyway, so making a Wii version is the most logical thing to do, that's all.

 

[Tenbatsu]

Then lets release it for the PS2!! Go tell Capcom!!

 

[borghe]

What I think people want fromt he Wii are games that ginuinely make good use out of the unique control scheme, not games that would have worked just as well on other consoles.

you thought wrong.

people want good games on the Wii. One of the best games on Wii (possibly THE best) has nothing to do with motion or pointing controls. It has nothing to do with "wanting games that work with the wii's controls". If anything, that's what most of us DON'T want, because it causes developers to focus on how to wedge waggle into their games.

This gen is less exclusive focused that pretty much any previous gen before it. But the bottom line is that if you still want ALL of the best games this gen, you will still need all three systems. I know core gamers have been pleased for a while now that Wii has largely remain untapped in this respect, but really it was only a matter of time before the best selling system of the gen got the one game that you really want. I mean it's pretty elementary.

 

[Teknoman]

let's not kid ourselves. two words: friend codes ;_;

Hey there can still be random battles right?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Huh?

What I think people want fromt he Wii are games that ginuinely make good use out of the unique control scheme, not games that would have worked just as well on other consoles. If that's the case then why not just release it for the PS2, it has a better default controller, a much better selection of premium arcade sticks and pads, a much bigger install base, and on top of that they could still make it online with out friend codes.

Even the PS2 is a better system for this game if it actually has the power to run it on the same level as the arcade...

So you're saying you don't actually know if the PS2 would run the game, you're just assuming it will.

It would have to be downgraded further, wouldn't it? I thought you weren't willing to make that sacrifice?

 

[jrricky]

Huh?

What I think people want fromt he Wii are games that ginuinely make good use out of the unique control scheme, not games that would have worked just as well on other consoles. If that's the case then why not just release it for the PS2, it has a better default controller, a much better selection of premium arcade sticks and pads, a much bigger install base, and on top of that they could still make it online with out friend codes.

Even the PS2 is a better system for this game if it actually has the power to run it on the same level as the arcade...

Why are you even spouting this, what do you know? We are moving on now.....

 

[yankee666]

Im glad i own a Jap Wii, ive been waiting for this game to be confirmed for the Wii since it was announced for the arcades. Day one for me (and i hope they release some exclusive arcade stick al SF4 along with it)

 

[Ruud_Luiten]

OMG @ game is coming to the best selling console in the world..... How can that be?!
OMG2 @ game is coming to a console which had 2 RE titles which sold 2.5 million pieces. Must be a casual gamers console... it must be!

 

[PusherT]

Ok I onw a NSTC wii but am kinda of scored to try instll geckOS on the wii is it hard? I may just buy another NSTC wii and install it on that . I am glad Wii is getting a potential great game. People on Neogaf (ps3/x360) fan are real selfish they bash the Wii for not hsving "core" games then when a core game is announced (MH Tri or Cap vs Tat) they bitch.

 

[Threi]

Huh?

What I think people want fromt he Wii are games that ginuinely make good use out of the unique control scheme, not games that would have worked just as well on other consoles. If that's the case then why not just release it for the PS2, it has a better default controller, a much better selection of premium arcade sticks and pads, a much bigger install base, and on top of that they could still make it online with out friend codes.

Even the PS2 is a better system for this game if it actually has the power to run it on the same level as the arcade...

What I think people want fromt he Wii are games that ginuinely make good use out of the unique control scheme

What people want from the Wii is a variety of games with genuine effort put into them. Not all minigames or all shooters. This is an example of such a game. It has more mainstream appeal, has a limited-button control scheme, but is still a fighter. It is "the Wii's fighter". That is what people are looking for. "The Wii's Fighter", "The Wii's Shooter", "The Wii's Minigame-compilation", "The Wii's Puzzle Game", "The Wii's Platformer". It is no different from LittleBigPlanet in that regard.

If that's the case then why not just release it for the PS2, it has a better default controller, a much better selection of premium arcade sticks and pads

Much more than both the PS3 and 360 as well. This is a contradictory sentence though. Should the console with the better default pad or the default optional pad be the deciding factor of what makes it better? The Wii has a great optional control pad for fighters, one that is cheap, available everywhere and can be used on any Wii.

a much bigger install base,

Also much more than the PS3 and 360. Less than DS as well.

and on top of that they could still make it online with out friend codes.

If they can make it online on the PS2 without friend codes, then they sure as hell can make it online on the Wii without friend codes. They are not a requirement.



*edit* oops i was typing that before i had realized you had gotten banned :/


The people responding to this specific game are really getting on my nerves though, because i am 90% sure i want this game much more than any of them, and if it was on another system i would seriously contemplate getting that system when this releases.

 

[TreIII]

Since the game is 480p in the arcades, wouldn't it have to be reworked for the PS3 and 360?

Correct. You can't just release a 480p game on the PS3/360 as is.

To do what people want, Capcom would either have to go back, re-work, and craft a specific HD version of the game, or Capcom would have to be willing to settle for PSN/LA for a brand new title. Can't see Capcom doing either of those, because one is more work than its worth for a Japanese-exclusive, and the other is something that wouldn't do much in the way of return.

At this point, the only thing that's REMOTELY possible is a PS2 port. But considering how bad a PS2 port of a GC game could be, trying to port from a Wii version will probably be even worse.

Besides, with the PS2 standing to get things like Fate: Unlimited Codes by the end of this year, as well as probably Gundam vs. Gundam NEXT next year, PS2 owners will be alright.

 

[The-Switcher]

Damn, damn the Wii for getting what right now, appears to be one exclusive 3rd party game!!!


DAMN THEM!

NOT FAIR!

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Ok I onw a NSTC wii but am kinda of scored to try instll geckOS on the wii is it hard? I may just buy another NSTC wii and install it on that . I am glad Wii is getting a potential great game. People on Neogaf (ps3/x360) fan are real selfish they bash the Wii for not hsving "core" games then when a core game is announced (MH Tri or Cap vs Tat) they bitch.

Gecko OS is super-duper easy with the Twilight hack. Like, much easier than putting CFW on a PSP.

 

[border]

Correct. You can't just release a 480p game on the PS3/360 as is.

I don't think it's that difficult to tell the GPU to output in 720p. To say that the whole game has to be re-worked is ridiculous.

 

[borghe]

I don't think it's that difficult to tell the GPU to output in 720p. To say that the whole game has to be re-worked is ridiculous.

pretty sure the problem comes down to standards. All disc based releases have to be "HD" (even though many render below 720p). As far as MS and Sony are concerned, releasing a 480p game and just outputting it in 720p doesn't cut the mustard. They would have to rework it to render in 720p at least (or thereabouts) which would likely require working some/many of the assets.

not saying it's even difficult, just that it's hardly as trivial as, you know.. just releasing a Wii version.

 

[border]

It's a 3D game -- all you do is ratchet up the resolution. You don't have to change the art assets. Everything scales naturally.

Capcom has ported other titles that required far more work.

 

[Baby Milo]

This! Everyone knows they won't be able to bring this to America, and they put it on the most import unfriendly console?

yup this is my only problem with this

 

[yurinka]

From Capcom's perspective? It would just be wasted money. PS3 or 360 versions wouldn't sell enough to warrant the costs of porting them in Japan. If the game had international appeal, which it doesn't, the HD consoles would more than likely get versions of the game. But considering the hardware had the game basically tailor-made for the Wii, the costs of labor alone to get it to other systems would be very nontrivial.

For gamers? I guess it wouldn't be bad. Hell, make every game available on every platform! But that's not going to happen from a business perspective because it's the most retarded plan ever.

Well, it would have the other multiplatform: Wii/PS2. In this case, games often sells even more in PS2, at least in Japan.

 

[TreIII]

It's a 3D game -- all you do is ratchet up the resolution. You don't have to change the art assets. Everything scales naturally.

Capcom has ported other titles that required far more work.

Capcom is more prone to DOWN-SCALE, then they are to upscale.

Outside of a few rare examples (Tech Romancer to DC, for example), there aren't many examples of Capcom doing things like this. They're NOT Namco.

 

[borghe]

yup this is my only problem with this

umm.. provided you can hunt down a valid copy of Twilight Princess, Wii is the second most import FRIENDLY console (only behind PS3, not counting handhelds)

It's a 3D game -- all you do is ratchet up the resolution. You don't have to change the art assets. Everything scales naturally.

Capcom has ported other titles that required far more work.

aside from textures and backgrounds now looking like shit. you would have to rework some 2D stuff or it will just look blurry and shitty.

 

[hellclerk]

It's a 3D game -- all you do is ratchet up the resolution. You don't have to change the art assets. Everything scales naturally.

Capcom has ported other titles that required far more work.

well, then there's any shader work they did that now has to be reworked for CPU custom shaders and the entire codebase has to be worked on and ported up, the online infrastructure would have to be recoded and retested, and all for what ends up being a budget looking game with some nifty characters. not quite so easy as it sounds.

 

[Askia47]

Game looks good, but I have no wii. Will wait and see if capcom ports it.

The scans don't say Wii only tho, maybe theres a chance.

 

[yurinka]

Capcom is more prone to DOWN-SCALE, then they are to upscale.

Outside of a few rare examples (Tech Romancer to DC, for example), there aren't many examples of Capcom doing things like this. They're NOT Namco.

Yes, but Capcom <3 ports. And they can outsource the ports.

 

[AnimeTheme]

Then lets release it for the PS2!! Go tell Capcom!!

No joking. They should. I mean Wii is fine but they should release a PS2 version as well.

Seriously, at this moment, the majority of the (hardcore) 2D fighter crowd (especially those who already own an arcade-style fighting stick, which is almost a must for this kind of game) is definitely still on PS2, especially in Japan.

 

[KingJ2002]

if the demand calls for it... capcom will release this on the 360/PS3... probably after the Wii title.

anywho... lets talk reality now.

im glad this finally got confirmation. I wonder how far capcom usa has gotten to get this us port approved.

 

[Threi]

yup this is my only problem with this

The most import-unfriendly console is the Xbox 360.

Gecko-OS is a snap to install.

It's a 3D game -- all you do is ratchet up the resolution. You don't have to change the art assets. Everything scales naturally.

Capcom has ported other titles that required far more work.

I doubt its that hard to port actually. Its just if Capcom is arsed enough to do it. I guess that will depend on both the sales of this title on Wii and SFIV sales.

But then again the possible porting of SFIV to Wii depends on those same things.

 

[borghe]

im glad this finally got confirmation. I wonder how far capcom usa has gotten to get this us port approved.

will never never never never happen. in JPN it's licensing with one company. Last I heard a US port would require upwards of five different companies (two alone for g-force/botp)

 

[CTLance]

Skipping through this thread I can oinly say one thing: What the heck, guys. What the heck.

Oh well. I guess having another fighter on the system is a good thing. Thankfully the Wii is hacked to hell and back, makes the region code bullshit more or less a non-issue.

 

[Threi]

I'm not going to do it, but a good expirement would be to see how many people here bitching participated in the original Tatsunoko vs. Capcom thread.

*DISCLAIMER*
A post count in a thread does not directly correlate to game interest, this is for informative purposes only. If it is used wrongfully to justify any points the username "Threi" cannot be held responsible.
*END DISCLAIMER*

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[jrricky]

Banning people for wanting X game on X console instead of X console should be a standard now.

EDIT:^^^damn, how did u do that?

 

[Bluemercury]

This looks more interesting than street fighter 4 for some reason...seems wii owners got the best deal...

 

[blu]

so this is where the devs of my z&w 2 went.. curse you, svensson.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Anyone see the meltdown over at the SRK forums after the Wii announcement? Christ on a stick. :lol