Going back to split memory pools is not cost effective. No console manufacture is going to go back to that.
Just doubling from the PS4 PRO wouldn't be good now as this is not the most powerful console right now (it would be too close to the xbox one x for comfort I believe).I would be disappointed at the vast disparity too, but I still find it hilarious how doubling the performance would be at the same time good (Xbox One X —> one of the rumoured Xbox Series X) and bad (PS4 Pro —> one of the rumoured PS5) .
Just doubling from the PS4 PRO wouldn't be good now as this is not the most powerful console right now (it would be too close to the xbox one x for comfort I believe).
The goal post is only moved if you respond to some arguments I have not made.Here we are moving the goalpost slightly with the Xbox One X comparison (hence Xbox One X would be a much smaller increase as you need to compare it against the efficiency and performance of the PS4 Pro and not the Xbox One as well as release timing and price increase) and it is still removing Polaris+ vs Navi++ efficiency changes from the equation.
The goal post is only moved if you respond to some arguments I have not made.
Right now it doesn't matter that the PS4 PRO was released first, the xbox one x is more powerful, and this is what the next consoles will be compared to.
As a side note, 9.2Tf on the new architectures, a faster CPU, etc. is much closer to twice as powerful as the X than twice as powerful as the Pro, but this does not seem to be what you were implying.
Yup, I think the new consoles should be 399 or less, but I can see MS trying their hand at 499 again.Yes and no, but while I agree what people could and would want to compare about may not necessarily make sense IMHO. Similar to my pet peeve about calling something half assed when it is executing different business goals in as efficient was as the other.
Although... I do have agree that 2x the speed of a faster and newer console is more impressive, but I would disagree that it would make it a godly beastly design if it comes out at $100 more again.
Yup, I think the new consoles should be 399 or less, but I can see MS trying their hand at 499 again.
It apparently makes some people pps feel big.
Does typing that make your PP feel big?
Well it is making someone’s bigger and harder for sure .
Either way, it's pretty low for the expected performance targets (apparently, I mean either way just a GPU in that range is more expensive than the whole consoles at this time).You guys really expect $399? I think it'll probably be more like $499 vs $599 (if rumors of power are true)
No, we are sorry to have offended you, and we are going to stop.Are we going to discuss the same info in different threads?
Yup, I think the new consoles should be 399 or less, but I can see MS trying their hand at 499 again.
It could also look like projecting... that is all I am getting act .The way some people are reacting in here, they seem threatened or afraid of being inferior or something.
That's all I was getting at.
Either way, it's pretty low for the expected performance targets (apparently, I mean either way just a GPU in that range is more expensive than the whole consoles at this time).
Price is one of those things that could be changed at the very last minute, it can even change between reveal and shipment!
I'll probably get carried away and get the PS5 either way.
No, we are sorry to have offended you, and we are going to stop.
That depends how unique each console's benefits/weaknesses are, Sony was rumored to integrate some AI circuit at a point.This would be good for third parties as the baseline would be similar and much stronger than the current generation of consoles, but also good for first party developers as they could create more unique titles that the other console will not have based on each platform’s unique advantages.
Series X will be stronger than PlayStation 5
Series X will be stronger than PlayStation 5
Series X will be stronger than PlayStation 5
Series X will be stronger than PlayStation 5
Does reading that make your PP's feel small?
Edit: Just to clarify - I'm sold on PS5 not Series X
That's rich coming from "Mr. Bluray kills people'These specs would imply a reverse where Xbox would have the better graphics and performance and the PS5 would have the higher CPU speed.
That's actually something that could happen, just all the numbers in the OP don't make much sense if you know anything about tech. The source slapped a bunch of numbers on a spreadsheet and called it a day.
I get it. We just fed your childish power fantasy, of course you wouldn't understand.The way some people are reacting in here, they seem threatened or afraid of being inferior or something.
That's all I was getting at.
Hey, I’m good with those PS5 specs if it comes at $299-349
Jesus, the level of delusion around here is pretty hilarious.
It's going to be $399 absolute minimum.
If you want true 4k you need moren than 8 GB RAM. It's 2020. In 2027 RAM will be a bottleneck.I dont see how 8gb isnt plausible. On the current gen systems RAM is hardly the bottleneck. I mean how much ram do you honestly believe a system needs? Its a game system, not a high-end rendering computer
It doesn't matter.Do you even believe those specs are real?
It doesn't matter.
It's a given that the PS5 will be considerably more powerful than the PS4 Pro, which is still at a $399 MSRP. And the PS4 still has an MSRP of $299. Sony is not going to release a brand new system next year at prices that those consoles are at in year 3 and year 7. FYI, those are the MSRP prices for current gen systems mind you. The are bundle discounts plenty of places and can get them for less, obviously.
I suspect that the PS5 will have a $399 MSRP, the Pro may get dropped to $299 MSRP and the base PS4 will get dropped to $199 MSRP.
On top of all that, Sony had tremendous success launching at the $399 price point in 2013. There is no way they will change that.
I won't be surprised however, if $499 is the launch price of the PS5.
Not projecting. I'm not even sold on Series X. I'm getting PS5 Day One.I get it. We just fed your childish power fantasy, of course you wouldn't understand.
Cling on to your better specced toy if you need that to feel superior, but at least stop projecting now.
Actually it's very cost effective because DDR is much cheaper than GDDR, and actually better for the CPU. So instead of one pool of 16GB GDDR6 they could go 8GB GDDR6 for the GPU and 8GB DDR4 for the CPU for lower price, or 12-16GB DDR4 at about the same cost.
the lowest common denominator is all that really matters. it's what by far the vast majority of third party games will be developed for. it's what for example the next grand theft auto game will be developed for.
Regardless of whether 9.2TF is the correct number or not (I think it will be higher but you never know especially if they want to hit $399), but for the grand daddy reveal, every company will stick to its PR plan.I personally wish Sony would just release specs already, this is getting ridiculous.
I'm thinking one of two things.
1. 9tf of performance is the real thing and they realized they messed up and are now working to solve the problem. Like Microsoft did with the 360 originally having 256MB of DDR2
2. The 9tf IS the final spec, and they're creating a hell of a games lineup to overshadow the specs and launch at a price that says "BUY ME!" and eventually we get another "pro" model.
I'm happy I decided to skip a console launch for once, next gen is looking interesting and I might end up going back to Xbox IF Microsoft has the games to show it's worth it. I'm not going in till the first price drop or redesign, or both.
What do you expected from placeholders specs? lolthe specs dont look like they make any sense?
LCD usually matters a hell of a lot, but it's not the only thing that matters. Even back with PS2, we still saw plenty of 3rd-party ports to GC and OG Xbox that looked much better than the PS2 ones. In some cases like Splinter Cell on Xbox, it was like a generational leap in a lot of ways.
If they are then what's going to happen is Sony will show a fake gameplay KIllzone trailer to start, chime in with more KZ info every 3 months, show KZ at every E3 for the next 4 years, and the game will come out around 2025. And after a month, the online will be dead.Sony are working on a Killzone 2 trailer bait and switch as we speak. You WILL buy the 8.3TF PS5!
I don't think there will ever be a bigger gap in power for generations than there was for the Xbox and PS2. The Xbox was so far ahead of the other consoles in terms of power.
I agree too.Agreed. Though granted, GC was closer to Xbox than any of the other systems (in fact it was better than Xbox in some specific areas; it would've been very interesting if it had a HDD and DVD-ROM as standard).
If the Github leaks hold more or less true, nothing's going to approach PS2/Xbox levels of disparity, or even PS3/360 levels. But probably some 3rd-party stuff could get between PS4/XBO and 360/PS3 levels of differences (closer to the former but still somewhere near the middle).