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That's enough, N'Gai Croal
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â Narayan
Member
Why anyone even liked what this guy wrote is beyond me.
James Mielke, too.
EDIT: ^^ LOL
James Mielke, too.
EDIT: ^^ LOL
I just think it's funny that ANYBODY expected ANY KIND of story integrity or background from CAPCOM. Have they ever delivered a believable world, with believable characters, in a meticulously researched setting? Why the hell would they start now?
Also, N'Gai has some interesting viewpoints, but his writing-style is bloated. Communication (that is meant for public consumption) should always be clear and concise.
Also, N'Gai has some interesting viewpoints, but his writing-style is bloated. Communication (that is meant for public consumption) should always be clear and concise.
RedNumberFive
Banned
RandomVince said:
Joke post? Anyhow, I completely agree with the OP. N'Gai is just horrible. I'll delete gaming podcasts immediately if I see that he's a guest.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Whoa whoa whoa James Mielke has produced far more entertaining content than most of the other names I'm seeing tossed around in this thread.*
*Whenever he's around Itagaki
*Whenever he's around Itagaki
MWS Natural
Member
FirstInHell
Banned
The problem with N'Gai is that his supporters were more in love with his position (blogger for a sub page on Newsweek.com) than anything the guy had to say.
People saw him as a potential messiah for the industry because he was going to be the guy to get the mainstream to accept their fringe hobby. The industry has been fine for the past twenty years and does not need some non-gamer like N'Gai to champion its cause. As I have said time and time again people who care about the mainstream's acceptance;
1 - Have a subconscious disdain for their hobby and feel the need for it to be validated.
2 - Want to see the industry move more into the mainstream. When this happens we get more Wii shovelware aimed at the lowest common denominator.
Also N'Gai loves it when people talk about him. I have never seen a person with more of a sense of self-importance than has. He loves pontificating on points that others have already made ten times over. He thinks that by repeating shit everyone already knows it will be seen more profound just because he is the one saying it.
People saw him as a potential messiah for the industry because he was going to be the guy to get the mainstream to accept their fringe hobby. The industry has been fine for the past twenty years and does not need some non-gamer like N'Gai to champion its cause. As I have said time and time again people who care about the mainstream's acceptance;
1 - Have a subconscious disdain for their hobby and feel the need for it to be validated.
2 - Want to see the industry move more into the mainstream. When this happens we get more Wii shovelware aimed at the lowest common denominator.
Also N'Gai loves it when people talk about him. I have never seen a person with more of a sense of self-importance than has. He loves pontificating on points that others have already made ten times over. He thinks that by repeating shit everyone already knows it will be seen more profound just because he is the one saying it.
Andronicus
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol if that is real that is some fucking gold right therechubigans said:
It is all too real.Andronicus said:
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?publicUserId=4549175&bId=8992178
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
chubigans said:
It can not be repeated enough: James Mielke thought that Nintendo had pretaped their E3 conference, wrote impressions about the lifelessness of the presentation and how pretaping their presentation was a sign of how they just don't care, and never realized that he was, in fact, in the overflow room, watching the conference live.
But, to be fair, I've otherwise enjoyed Mielke's writing, especially during his tenure at GMR. People make mistakes, hilarious mistakes, but mistakes none-the-less. The real question I have is: did he ever admit that some of his stuff out of the recent E3 was a little, I dunno, insane?
fatigues_gasolini
Member
I never found any racist undertones in RE5. I just felt it was RE in Africa.
FirstInHell
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gamerecks said:
There was nothing racist in RE5. It was something outrageous to say that got him a lot of attention.
Flachmatuch
Member
FirstInHell said:
Certainly not true. I think a lot of people started to like N'Gai when he showed signs of understanding the Wii, as one of the first gaming journalists. He quite obviously wasn't saying the same thing that everyone else at that time. The RE5 thing shows that he isn't really that deep, he could have found much better (although more subtle and non-black) targets in other games imo.
RichyDevil
Member
jrricky said:
I'm sorry I didn't know I wasn't allowed to voice an opinion on gaming-related topics in the gaming forum.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FirstInHell said:
Precisely. Hell, how could RE5 be racist when the producers don't even remember what African country they visited. For all we know, they went to South Africa. >_>
myDingling
Member
I love Croal. I think he is awesome and on-point with his commentary. I hope the games industry is positioning itself to enter a more mature realm of entertainment, and people like Croal are providing the proper analysis to achieve that.
I think OP is a hater and a bad poster with nothing to post about other than his raaaage. Those that agree with OP are likely bad posters as well with little substance in their opinions.
I think OP is a hater and a bad poster with nothing to post about other than his raaaage. Those that agree with OP are likely bad posters as well with little substance in their opinions.
RichyDevil
Member
myDingling said:
I may be a bad poster but I am not a hater. I am asking Croal to write about subjects other than himself, since he tends to be really good when that happens.
Livin_Lovin
Member
Man, this N'Gai must be a popular guy to warrant four pages of discussion.
Just saying...
dammitmattt
Banned
myDingling said:
You tell those bad posters!
Foxtastical said:
Newspapers oftentimes have an unbylined "staff" editorial that's written either by the editorial page editor, the editor-in-chief, or a staffer under the direction of said editors. But there are also personal, bylined editorials. And opposing bylined editorials.
Editorial columnists write editorial columns. I think, largely, the two terms are interchangeable.
BravoSuperStar
Member
Lol @ the overreactions to the OP. It's a valid criticism of the guy presented in an intelligent manner. Get a grip.
OP I think what's happened is you've gotten a certain idea about N'Gai into your head and then you've proceeded to interpret everything he writes in lieu of that. Then you've found a bunch of quotes to support that. If I wasn't extremely lazy I could probably do the same but in support of N'Gai, because I think he really is awesome. Neither of us would be right or wrong.
I AM JOHN!
Banned
Pretty much. Such is the irony of Gaming-side: we get pissed off when a games writer takes the easy way out, parrots PR and sticks to the tired "graphics paragraph/sound paragraph/gameplay paragraph" style of shitty writing, or says nothing of value in their writing, but whenever a writer decides to not treat the audience like a gaggle of idiots and says something that requires a little more critical thought or is potentially controversial, we jump down their throats for being arrogant or out-of-touch and then AltogetherAndrews goes on another rant about how all critics need to die for some reason or another.woxel1 said:
GAF is incredibly hypocritical. Maybe that's why I like it so much.
EDIT: just to be clear, this isn't about N'gai specifically so much as it's about games writers in general. I've never read enough of N'gai's work to form an opinion on him.
myDingling
Member
dammitmattt said:
Bad posters make me sad ;__;
Flachmatuch
Member
Mash said:
"Lieu" is "place" not "light"
myDingling
Member
Croal's so vain
he probably thinks this thread is about him
Croal's so vaaaaaain
he probably think this gen is about him
don't you? don't you?! DON'T YOU?!
he probably thinks this thread is about him
Croal's so vaaaaaain
he probably think this gen is about him
don't you? don't you?! DON'T YOU?!
DangerStepp
Member
verisimilitude
narrative
narrative
I like N'Gai.
cartman414
Member
chubigans said:
James Mielke? Say whatever you will about his more questionable tendencies (i. e. occasionally questionably high reviews), but the man has more gaming insight than N'Gai.
This.DaBargainHunta said:
Don't get mad because a gaming journalist actually fulfills the "journalist" aspect of the job description in a manner that respects the subject matter he covers.
The Edge "RE5" column was well-written and demonstrated that some people are able to touch on a sensitive subject without hiding behind the "it's just a game" apron strings, exemplified by the fine standard of discourse found here, for example.
If you want respect for your hobby, I suggest you rejoice when somebody in a mainstream position provides representation that extends beyond the fanboy feces-flinging that is all too common in this industry.
Grow the fuck up.
Clearly you have gained a deeper insight into N'Gai's persona than even his associates or even himself...simply through listening to his podcasts and reading some columns.FirstInHell said:
And guess what? Chances are that someone, somewhere is going to "repeat shit," as you so eloquently put, simply because of the volume of noise out there.
Ultimately, though, this is the problem with being a Journalist. You're supposed to serve as an intermediary between consumers and the news (whatever it may be), but the cross-section of your audience can range from the hardcore followers (Sports - Jets superfan, Technology - Electrical Engineer/Researcher/Apple Fanboy, etc., Politics - Beltway insiders, etc.) and the general public. Unless your audience is defined as a specific segment (read: Kotaku readership), you'll never be able to please the entire spectrum. You'll lose the superfan because you don't focus on minutiae or esoteric knowledge or vice versa.
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Actually, yeah, I still don't see how people are blind enough to think it was such a simplistic argument. He said that there was some uncomfortable imagery within that trailer, and he wondered if that could be a problem once the mass public saw that game.~Devil Trigger~ said:
Jesus Christ.
Foxtastical
Member
Probably interchangeable, it really doesn't bother me. That's the way I was taught from people at the Journal Sentinel here in Milwaukee. I just think it's important to understand how columns and editorials can work. Happy times all around.MC Safety said:
And while it seems simple to us, I really don't think a lot of people can differentiate between a column/editorial and a regular news piece. People here always confuse them.