Pureauthor
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They did that in the 2D versions too...
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The Official Final Fantasy IV DS Thread
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Pureauthor
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Yeah, I kinda assumed you'd have found ways to deal with it by now.
Pureauthor
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I dunno, has anything about them changed significantly back from the 2D editions? Because if not, hitting them with your single hardest-hitting physical attack (usually the Dragoon's Jump for me at that point) and nothing else allowed you to win with minimum fuss (although a fair bit of tedium).
Red Scarlet
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Ordered the game yesterday..will hopefully get it by New Year's!
Want to finish, Aeana?
If Behemoths are the same, they counter physical attacks, rarely attack, and counter some magic with Maelstrom. So the safest way to win (which we'd do) is cast Blink on the party and only attack with your main fighters. Later on it's not a big deal to just attack and defend without using Blink at all anymore.
Want to finish, Aeana?
If Behemoths are the same, they counter physical attacks, rarely attack, and counter some magic with Maelstrom. So the safest way to win (which we'd do) is cast Blink on the party and only attack with your main fighters. Later on it's not a big deal to just attack and defend without using Blink at all anymore.
Red Scarlet said:
Yeah, I was doing the blink thing... it just takes a really long time. I don't have Kain right now (Fusuya instead). With Edge and Cecil attacking after having blink put on them, they do about 1500 each, and it seems to have at least 20000 HP. It's safe, but it definitely does take quite a while to win. On the last one, I had Rydia casting flare and Rosa casting curaga immediately afterward, which was dangerous, but faster.
Red Scarlet
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Aeana said:
They don't counter Bahamut, so Leviathan may be ok to use on those first three, but I'm not entirely sure. Yeah, you want to finish?
Just beat Bahamut.
Yeah, sure.
Seems like you can no longer reflect megaflare. Before he casts it, he casts reflect on himself and reflects it off of himself instead or something. The second time I tried, I just berserk/hasted my melee, had Rydia cast Leviathan and won when his countdown got to 1
Red Scarlet said:
Yeah, sure.
Red Scarlet
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Yeah I don't know how to track with Play-Asia unless I get the really expensive shipping, so it's just floating around somewhere on Earth until it arrives. I got it from Play-Asia this time for the cheap shipping and that I'll be home for awhile and I had an $8 coupon so it only cost about $52 to get it.
I'm about to fix dinner, so after I eat I'll hop on and we can maybe finish today, Aeana!
I'm about to fix dinner, so after I eat I'll hop on and we can maybe finish today, Aeana!
Just beat the
. Very tough, but FUN fight! The strategy from the SNES version has definitely changed here, but it was fun to figure it out.
I also noticed a new lengthy scene that wasn't here before. Pretty cool.
Very cool scene, and it's a nice insight into the backstory here.
Babel giant CPU thing
I also noticed a new lengthy scene that wasn't here before. Pretty cool.
They go into much more detail about Cecil/Golbeza's past. You get to see KluYa and you find out Golbeza's real name. Very interesting.
Finally got my game. Put about an hour into it so far.
- Presentation's really great, I didn't expect a lot of little touches they put on it
- Gameplay's been tweaked a lot and the improvements are mostly good
- The ATB timing and delays make the battles feel a little weird at first, takes some getting used to
- Cutscenes are really, really good
- Music's great
- Presentation's really great, I didn't expect a lot of little touches they put on it
- Gameplay's been tweaked a lot and the improvements are mostly good
- The ATB timing and delays make the battles feel a little weird at first, takes some getting used to
- Cutscenes are really, really good
- Music's great
Lost Fragment
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Mine's still in Hong Kong in a hub scan or whatever.
Man this is torture
Man this is torture
grandjedi6
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So, for the people who have played it, is FFIV DS or GBA better?
Aeana, any tips on
His tidal wave -> sleep combo is pretty deadly as the wave deaths half my party even if defending and then he sleeps the other half or does another tidal wave 2 rounds later before the party can revive/heal to max HP. I'm guessing there is a way to prevent tidal wave since it's gives you a 1 round warning and I doubt the warning is for you to use to defend since the wave carries death beyond just the damage.
Cagnazzo?
Bebpo said:
What I did was keep Tellah ready (by passing his turn and letting others act) to cast thunder (regular thunder, it casts the fastest) which will dispel the water barrier and cancel tsunami. When the barrier isn't up, he's weak to ice instead, so Palom can cast blizzara repeatedly.
Stumpokapow
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subrock said:
Remake of FFIV for the SNES. There is no FF game that is unreleased in America. We will get it, but there is no date and it will definitely be after March 2008. One would expect it around September 2008 give or take two months.
I pretty much agree... I don't know if I'd call it a huge disappointment, but it's a disappointment nonetheless. I'd probably be a lot more heated if this had been its first rerelease since the SFC/SNES days, but since it's already been redone twice before this (and I've played through FF4 more times than I'd like to admit), this not quite living up to expectations is meh~whatevers to me.sp0rsk said:
I see FF4 DS as fan service to FF4 devotees, and in that respect, I think it gives them enough to satiate their thirst for something FF4-related. The intro, despite the compression, is pretty badass, as is the music for the intro. The cutscenes w/ VO are also awesome, and make them feel fresh, but don't stray far from what made them memorable in the 16-bit days.
The music otherwise, though, kinda sucks. It sorta sounds like the OG music, but via the DS, man, it just doesn't sound right. This is one of those times I wish the remake had been done on a console. The thing I loved about the 16-bit FFs is that going in and out of combat was quick and responsive. Here, it feels sluggish with the loading. While pretty short, it cumulatively builds frustration. The weird command queueing of the GBA FF4 is gone (thankfully), but it's been replaced with this.
Graphically, aside from the slow battle action, this game looks pretty stunning for a DS title. The nice framerate during cutscenes, and the cool map feature, add to the familiar feel while updating it to take advantage of (but not requiring) the touchscreen.
Hey here's a question about the GBA one for ya, I was playing it earlier and opened a treasure box in the giant of babel and it had a LAST ALARM enemy inside, all it does is cast a spell that "stops" a party member but the thing is , there doesn't seem to be a way to remove stop and eventually my entire party was just frozen in time with no way to run away nor did the game just simply give me a game over. It also seemed like the enemy casted this ability just frequently enough to keep anyone from becoming unstopped by having the spell simply wear out.
I'd swear it was almost an untested bug which I suppose isn't that suprising given how many bad things I'd heard about the GBA edition.
I'd swear it was almost an untested bug which I suppose isn't that suprising given how many bad things I'd heard about the GBA edition.
All done with the game! The last dungeon was really, really difficult... and those stupid red dragons are just as annoying as ever (maybe more?). I did eventually beat all of the chest monsters and extra bosses except
... he was just way too hard.
Overall, I found this remake to be incredible. It was far, far above what I was expecting coming off of FF3 DS. They really went beyond what they did with that game, and even managed to make FF4 enjoyable for someone who never really liked it in the first place. The decant system adds a lot of neat customizability, and the tweaks to the ATB system really go a long way. Some of the dungeons in the game are really pretty, and the voiced scenes are fantastic. The difficulty was a bit of a problem in the early game for me, but it did sort its way out as I progressed (except for some of the later optional bosses - wow), and I'm pretty happy with the way it ended up.
I really can't wait to see what they'll do with FF5 (the wording on the box makes it seem like another remake is coming, 'Continuing after FF3, the second entry in the full remake series').
Tidaleviathan (I think it's Ogopogo in the English ones?)
Overall, I found this remake to be incredible. It was far, far above what I was expecting coming off of FF3 DS. They really went beyond what they did with that game, and even managed to make FF4 enjoyable for someone who never really liked it in the first place. The decant system adds a lot of neat customizability, and the tweaks to the ATB system really go a long way. Some of the dungeons in the game are really pretty, and the voiced scenes are fantastic. The difficulty was a bit of a problem in the early game for me, but it did sort its way out as I progressed (except for some of the later optional bosses - wow), and I'm pretty happy with the way it ended up.
I really can't wait to see what they'll do with FF5 (the wording on the box makes it seem like another remake is coming, 'Continuing after FF3, the second entry in the full remake series').
They have this on sale at the combini near my place.
While I think the game looks horrible and thought it played terribly the part that I played at Tokyo Game Show, it did get me to go do a SNES FFIV speed run. Speed running that game is really fun.
Sounds like that wouldn't be possible with this new version.
While I think the game looks horrible and thought it played terribly the part that I played at Tokyo Game Show, it did get me to go do a SNES FFIV speed run. Speed running that game is really fun.
Sounds like that wouldn't be possible with this new version.
u_neek said:
Easier, because:
- there are Save Points inside dungeons!
- you don't have to worry about class leveling up
- the magic system is more versatile
- Phoenix Downs can be bought for 100 Gil!
Fights can still be quite tough, and revised tactics for bosses can make it hard even for experts.
Finally beat Cagnazzo after two tries. Once the strategy was nailed down, it was pretty easy, otherwise it's lolz time. Pretty solid boss fight. Got the airship. YAAAAAAAAAY!
This is probably the best remake Squaresoft has ever done. Not that that's saying much, but this is really how remakes should be. Everything is overhauled and feels completely fresh, not just the graphics. It's great to be playing the game that's narratively similar, but yet fresh and original every step of the way compared to the original.
This is probably the best remake Squaresoft has ever done. Not that that's saying much, but this is really how remakes should be. Everything is overhauled and feels completely fresh, not just the graphics. It's great to be playing the game that's narratively similar, but yet fresh and original every step of the way compared to the original.
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duckroll said:
This thread makes me sad because we aren't getting this game until at least Fall 2008.
Boo!!!!!!!
Red Scarlet
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So since at least one person has finished, and looking at what was posted...where was this supposed 75% of stuff that was originally taken out? That seems to be nonexistent.
Red Scarlet
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Yeah, wasn't that the amount supposedly? 75% or 25%. Seemed shady.