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Trump 2018 Budget Proposal includes steep cuts to science, health, the poor
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All this talk about everyone uniting and setting differences aside, Trump is making record breaking amount of enemies every day. As bad as things are, people who oppose his ideals have to keep on fighting for what they think is right. One day things will turn around no matter how long it takes. Nothing lasts forever good or bad.
HazySaiyan
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Obviously we need more money for the military, they're basically paupers at this point.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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If this passes eff them all
every single department that matter while our defense budget which is twice as big as other countries gets a budget increase?
every single department that matter while our defense budget which is twice as big as other countries gets a budget increase?
thehypocrite
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An uneducated, unhealthy and starving population with a huge military? Nothing can go wrong there.
Prepare for the war. The drums be banging.
Prepare for the war. The drums be banging.
SuperBowser
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Pretty much.
Pretty sure the conservatives have repeatedly and successfully played this strategy in UK over the past few years.
Hahahaha. You act like this isn't exactly what republicans want. They ain't changing shit.
ArchedThunder
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It's almost like the poor people that voted for him should have known that the selfish rich dude who is also a known scammer wouldn't make life easier for them.
Sad Affleck
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The war on the poor continues.
guybrushfreeman
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Thank you for posting the link. I should've done it before but I've been on mobile
Sho_Nuff82
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All those people can just enlist now. Give your lives for the motherland!
Garrett Hawke
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Hopefully trump voters will wake up after they feel this
Who am I kidding lol
Who am I kidding lol
It's time everyone starts very closely listening to -and actively dismissing- the Republican talking points that will be parroted for the next 3 weeks. You're about to hear the exact same specific, pointed and well-memorized set of buzz words and phrases from every congressman, senator, am radio pundit and Fox News contributor, all aiming to confirm that this budget plan just reduces excessive spending and government overreach into things that should be privately funded. "Common sense", they'll say, or "reduces big government", then wait for the Fox & Friends hosts to nod agreeingly
It's a guarantee.
They've already convinced most of their base that our military is ragged and worn paper thin, that we're somehow showing the world we're weak since our military is in steep decline and argue it has been for nearly a decade (basically since 2008... Hmmm). I personally know people who believe it since, you know, Rush is right. #megadittos
It's scary just how predictable and effective it is...
then cut to commercials for term life insurance and reduced-cost mobility scooters.
It's a guarantee.
They've already convinced most of their base that our military is ragged and worn paper thin, that we're somehow showing the world we're weak since our military is in steep decline and argue it has been for nearly a decade (basically since 2008... Hmmm). I personally know people who believe it since, you know, Rush is right. #megadittos
It's scary just how predictable and effective it is...
This is fucking terrifying as someone who works in basic research.
LostCaress
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Killing the EPA is probably good for the economy for the first years
then everyone dies
It'll be entertaining to see the GOP argue for such major cuts to all these departments, in particular the state and justice department. This shit isn't passing. Hope dems shut the government down if they don't budge. At least this will be a damn good reason to do so. Not like this new budget will do anything to work for the people anyway.
Nah, fuck anyone who voted for Trump; this is what they asked for when they voted for him. As they're laying on the floor starving to death or dying from a disease that would have been easily treatable if they had insurance, I hope the last thought that runs through their head is the realization that they did this to themselves. But it'll probably just be "America is...cough...cough...great.....agaaaain"
Fox Mulder
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Fuck the people that voted for him. I hope they suffer from their choices.
Come again? Didn't Trump and each of his brainless cabinet picks make it in?
Why is your faith in America so bold?
Really not worried about this, it's going nowhere and his lack of progress, control and competence is going to see bigger and bigger pushback as we approach primaries.
Between Trumpcare and this budget proposal I think he looks like a fool in a more reality-check way, i.e., "this is starting to effect white people"
"Give him a chance" is over now. Look at the Republican town halls. Trumpcare has already divided the GOP in a very clear way.
Remember this: The same America that elected Trump and re-elected W. also elected Obama twice.
He will be a single-term president because everything he has done has been a self-serving disaster. In 2020 he won't be able run on a platform that blames the sitting administration.
Between Trumpcare and this budget proposal I think he looks like a fool in a more reality-check way, i.e., "this is starting to effect white people"
"Give him a chance" is over now. Look at the Republican town halls. Trumpcare has already divided the GOP in a very clear way.
Remember this: The same America that elected Trump and re-elected W. also elected Obama twice.
He will be a single-term president because everything he has done has been a self-serving disaster. In 2020 he won't be able run on a platform that blames the sitting administration.
Yep. I don't really even have the wherewithal to make some kind of clever comment, it's just sad. What a bleak, bleak image of the world this guy has.
reggieandTFE
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Are there any charts that show the actual monetary amounts? I'm guessing that 9% increase to defense is larger than all the cuts combined. Puttting out a chart like this is helpful to see but will be celebrated by those on the right who hate those programs anyways.
As far as Trump and Co are concerned, who has time for the arts and performances when they are at war with muslims who could be living down the street from them. Trump's Schtick is to make everyone feel terrified not inspired.
He stated that OTHER presidents recklessly spent on defense. And that Clinton would continue that trend.
Oh, and that America wasn't great anymore, which, given his budget request, apparently meant we don't spend enough on weapons and militarization of police/border control because we're wasting it on the eenvironment, medicine and arts?
Well, I think that's the goal. War got Bush re-elected.
Because as written it goes against the beliefs of too many groups.
Let's start with Democrats, obviously they'll oppose it.
Freedom caucus members will like the cutting of domestic programs but will complain that it doesn't touch entitlements and that the defense spending offsets the cuts meanign it doesn't reduce the deficit.
Similar reasoning for non-interventionists who will say the defense spending is just more handouts to defense contractors.
All Senate republicans will be weary because to increase the def spending they'd need 60 votes to end sequestration (yes that is still a thing). and Mconnell has said he doesn't want to use the nuclear option.
Traditional republicans will dislike the loss to their district's funding like they do anytime there are budget cuts. State with republican governors will get flack because this budget offloads too much spending to the states and they'd need to raise taxes or cut services neither which is popular.
I'm not saying the budget that passes won't be a terrible one, I'm just saying it won't be THIS terrible one.
Vicetrailia
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Oh they will, and so will we. If something like this passed I'm moving to my wifes home country. I don't wanna live in a country that destroys itself and only allows the rich to thrive.
LegendofJoe
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It's probably inevitable, and I'll be damned if I let anyone I love go to war for Trump. Fuck him, fuck everyone who voted for him, and most importantly fuck the Republican party.
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