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[anexanhume]

Still no official confirmation if the SATA interface is II or III (leaks suggested II). No confirmation of TRIM support, though the freeBSD version they're based on supports it. Finally, no mention of BDXL being supported or if that's possible through a firmware update. I bet developers would like to be able to grow to 100/128GB instead of doing multiple-discs.

 

[suddenlyissoon]

160gb?!?! You can only replace the existing one with a hard drive 340gb smaller?!?!

 

[Raist]

No DLNA? MP3s?
I personally don't care, but that's quite shit.

wut

Are users able to record, distribute or stream any gameplay video?
No. Users may not be able to record certain areas within the game. Developers can select the area of restriction, and what will be restricted will depend on game titles. In these cases, recording will be temporarily suspended during the scene.

Cerny (I think) mentioned that ages ago.

 

[coolasj19]

No external HDD, music visualizers, MP3's, or DLNA... ummmm what the actual fuck Sony? This is a problem and they don't hint at coming functionality either... GRRRRRR...

 

[daman824]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/

Reading through it right now. I'll update the OP when I find some important info. Don't want to post the whole thing.

I cant use an external harddrive? Fuck I was really looking forward to just hooking one up and playing. Guess i have to learn how to install a new one.

And that music thing really sucks. $40 a year to play my music?

 

[YouEnjoyMySelf]

no DLNA sucks.

 

[MThanded]

We need an xbox one FAQ. That's the only thing that will quench my undying thirst.

 

[Betta Lines]

But does it play ATRAC3?

 

[Treythalomew]

How do we go backwards on features. The lack of media support is crazy and even if they don't want people using their own stuff why aren't there other options like background Spotify or Rdio apps.

 

[Mrcapcom]

No DLNA? Aww man no PLEX maybe they can make a actual real app now and maybe that will work oh well not like you can't add it later I suppose

 

[gofreak]

It says that online passes for 3rd-party titles is at publisher's discretion, but Rhode had previously said Sony weren't going to allow them on PS4, thanks to including multiplayer in PS+.

So what gives?

He said that they ultimately couldn't stop a publisher using an online pass for online functionality, but that they were putting a stake in the ground as a first party publisher in the expectation that pubs would follow them.

 

[opticalmace]

160gb?!?! You can only replace the existing one with a hard drive 340gb smaller?!?!

It says it must be larger than 160GB.

 

[AAK]

Can I disable the wireless on my DS4? Seriously why don't they allow this?? I know when MLG was running Tekken 6 and TTT2 Sony made special PS3's where they couldn't be turned on or synced with a home button only a cable. This would make running tournaments MUCH easier.

 

[Cassius]

OK this is bullshit. I love you sony but this is bullshit. Inexcusable.

What the actual fuck.

The PS1 can play music.

 

[Ricerocket]

I assume they will have a Plex app then? Man this is a buzzkill of a thread.

No client functionality = nothing.

 

[Zombie James]

No sub to master accounts and no renaming. Seems PSN is still lacking in some aspects.

The OS also seems to be missing lots of media functionality, but I guess a few updates down the line will sort this out.

How basic was the PS3 OS in comparison at launch?

The big ones:

- No in-game XMB, so whenever someone sent you a message you had to exit out of whatever you were doing.
- The store was a web page.

 

[TheFatOne]

I was in for day 1, but I'm just going to wait it out now. The only game I really want is Killzone and I can wait to get it cheaper later on. Some of this stuff is straight up bullshit. The no external HDD is garbage. How the fuck does a modern console not have that ability?

 

[Dr_Boris_Goltz]

So wait... I can't use the PS4 to stream videos from my PC like I currently do with the 360?

 

[Tallshortman]

It says that online passes for 3rd-party titles is at publisher's discretion, but Rhode had previously said Sony weren't going to allow them on PS4, thanks to including multiplayer in PS+.

So what gives?

No it was clarified a while ago that no first party titles will have online passes and they hope they "example" they set will encourage third parties not to do it.

 

[androvsky]

No wonder the Xbox One is being hailed as the superior all-in-one media playback console.
Sony stripped all of the media out of their system.
No MP3s. No media streaming from a connected network. I'm surprised they're still allowing Netflix.

Everything's getting stripped out so they can force people to use subscription services rather than media files which may or may not have been acquired legitimately (even CDs could be burned). It's the only explanation... and it's still bullshit.

 

[Taker34]

Let's molest Sony on twitter. It works always. Believe!

 

[-griffy-]

If i am reading this correctly there is no OFFICIAL PS4 stand?

But i have to get one from a third party?

There is, it's just not available in North America for the launch window.

 

[UberTag]

It says that online passes for 3rd-party titles is at publisher's discretion, but Rhode had previously said Sony weren't going to allow them on PS4, thanks to including multiplayer in PS+.

So what gives?

They lied. The online pass amnesty was temporary because everyone thought Microsoft and the big 3 third-party publishers were going to strong arm always online and no used games. That didn't happen so online/content exclusion passes will soon come back in full force.

But at least Sony won't charge us for them. So there's that. How nice of them.

 

[MThanded]

True gaming machine.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Wow the OS for PS4 really missing a lot of stander features right now .
No MP3 is like WTF no wonder it does not have custom soundtrack .

 

[Mr.Speedy]

No wonder the Xbox One is being hailed as the superior all-in-one media playback console.
Sony stripped all of the media out of their system.
No MP3s. No media streaming from a connected network. I'm surprised they're still allowing Netflix.

Can the Xbox One play MP3s? Can it do background music?

 

[Sub_Level]

While folks may not be happy with 100% of the answers, it's awesome for Sony to put out such a detailed FAQ.

Microsoft your turn.

Microsoft's will be similar, just with superior media capabilities and instead of "No." the go-to negative answer will be "We may have another product for you: <link to xbox 360>."

 

[Live Free or Die]

Still no official confirmation if the SATA interface is II or III (leaks suggested II). No confirmation of TRIM support, though the freeBSD version they're based on supports it. Finally, no mention of BDXL being supported or if that's possible through a firmware update. I bet developers would like to be able to grow to 100/128GB instead of doing multiple-discs.

It says it right in the FAQ.

What type of hard drive does PS4 use?

PS4 is equipped with a 5400 RPM SATA II hard drive. Users can choose to install a new hard drive so long as it complies with these standards, is no thicker than 9.5mm, and is larger than 160GB.

 

[NyMartin]

So if there's no external HDD support or DLNA support then theres no way of transferring my videos or multimedia/ MKVs.

Dammit Sony I liked the PS3 as a media box too, I know your stressing the whole Gaming system but we want to keep features we had. smh

 

[Liamario]

Will I be able to play background music while I play PS4 games?
Yes, the Music Unlimited streaming service will allow you to listen to music while you play PS4 games. A subscription to Music Unlimited is required. Get full details here.
Does PS4 include a music visualizer feature?
No.
Will I be able to play MP3s on PS4?
No.

This is complete bullshit, as well as not allowing media streaming in 2013!!!

 

[epaturun]

If i am reading this correctly there is no OFFICIAL PS4 stand?

But i have to get one from a third party?

by the sounds of it, not in N America we get official one in EU as available on Amazon.co.uk

 

[gtj1092]

Why didn't they just build off the media functionality of the Ps3. The Ps3 was my media center for a few years and worked great.

This is kind of iffy hopefully they fix these issues by the time I get one. No mp3s really thats laughable considering I could rip cds on my Ps3.

 

[notoriousKTR]

At this point, both systems look half-baked. Better wait a year or two to see how things flesh out. I will stick with the PC.

 

[mullet2000]

The big ones:

- No in-game XMB, so whenever someone sent you a message you had to exit out of whatever you were doing.
- The store was a web page.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaan I forgot about that.

But yeah, PS3 was way worse than PS4 is at launch, even with some of these disappointments.

 

[2San]

What is DLNA? What are the benefits of DLNA?

 

[Bluekaveli]

The ps4 is probably too powerful to play mp3s. I'm sure it plays flac files instead.

If that's the case then I win considering the fact that my whole collection is in flac. 300gbs here we come

 

[Zombie James]

If I rent a game disc, and then decide I want to buy it digitally, can I use the mandatory install to avoid downloading it and just activate my license?

No, in this example you would have to delete the disc install data and fully install the digital version of the game.

Does this imply that the cache doesn't automatically delete itself? Hope so.

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

I know I ordered a game console and while it's not a dealbreaker/pre-order cancelling point, but the lack of DLNA or MP3 support is baffling. I hope that this is planned support down the line.

The Edge article wasn't lying: at launch, it seems like the Xbone is best suited for multimedia. Would never buy one for that reason, though.

 

[eznark]

Why the fuck would you only be able to upload videos to Facebook? That kills one of the coolest features for me.

 

[Snake29]

Basically sounds like no media function other than bluray/dvd playback.

You can see that from no USB HD support, no DLNA, no visualizer, no MP3 playback. Pretty backwards from PS3 and lame. Cements my decision to not go next gen until further down in the future even more yay.

Firmware: 1.51,52,53...

 

[chubigans]

Buyin' a 1.5TB HDD then. I wonder if that'll even be enough.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

No DLNA????? I was just wondering about this today and hoping they wouldn't mess it up. AARRGHHHHH!

I've been living under the assumption that DLNA would be a no brainer seeing that the PS3 and 360 both had it previous.

Un-fucking-believable is the only way I can describe this.

 

[JrBaconCheeseburger]

Why do you need one at all?

I always put the console in vertical position since PS2.

 

[panty]

I can understand this being a big thing for some and seriously can't understand why won't they allow it

Will PS4 support media servers or DLNA support in order to stream videos or movies from a home PC?
The PS4 system does not support client functionality for media servers.

But how many of you play mp3s on the PS3 on a regular basis? I mean yeah it was amazing at first and I used it when the PS3 was new but I haven't had any use since the launch basically.

Agreed, it's dumb they blocked it just so people would sub for the Music service.

 

[jbug617]

Why the fuck would you only be able to upload videos to Facebook? That kills one of the coolest features for me.

I was looking forward to putting videos up on Youtube.

 

[Loudninja]

Does this imply that the cache doesn't automatically delete itself? Hope so.

It does not shuhei said you have to delete it yourself.

 

[Silky]

Yeah, fuck off.

 

[-griffy-]

160gb?!?! You can only replace the existing one with a hard drive 340gb smaller?!?!

It needs to be larger than 160gb.

 

[MThanded]

When we get an FAQ from MS I presume we may be in for a big surprise too...

 

[TheFatOne]

Why the fuck would you only be able to upload videos to Facebook? That kills one of the coolest features for me.

Seriously some stupid decisions by Sony right now. Some of this shit makes zero sense. Not going to be a beta tester for their bullshit. Will wait it out, and see if some of this shit is patched in.