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Uncharted 3: Subway's Deception Multiplayer Discussion [New Patch Released]

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LowEndTorque said:
The summer beta was probably the best multiplayer experience I've ever had in a video game. All it needed was a few very very microscopic tweaks. I'm in utter disbelief at how they completely destroyed something that was so close to perfection.

Harassing them will probably be much better use of our time then complaining in this thread. We have nothing to lose by trying. Let's get this shit going.

Lobby Group for Returning the MP Back to How it Was in the Beta:

LowEndTorque
Kal2006


Feel free to add yourselves to the list.

couldn't have said it better myself, I was having a blast with multiplayer in the summer Beta, I've never got into multiplayer like that before and was so excited for the full release.
 
The fact that this thread is basically dead now is a testament to the fact that the new version is no good. People are only going to deal with so much
 
Yoboman said:
The fact that this thread is basically dead now is a testament to the fact that the new version is no good. People are only going to deal with so much
Hah that is really silly, way to jump to conclusions, and the topic is no where near dead at all.
 
Yoboman said:
The fact that this thread is basically dead now is a testament to the fact that the new version is no good. People are only going to deal with so much

Thats what I am trying to get at, multiplayer for U3 will be dead if it is not good from day 1 when U3 releases, people will try it out and never come back, but if it is as great and addictive as the summer Beta the multiplayer could be a huge hit, if ND are slow with patching up the game, it could be too late as people would get a bad impression in the first place and wouldn't think to come back and check the multiplayer ever again.
 
Loudninja said:
Hah that is really silly, way to jump to conclusions, and the topic is no where near dead at all.
How is it not? There are half a dozen posts in here per day, nobody is setting up matches or talking about great matches they had like in the July beta thread. Naughty Dog seem more interested in waiting for the people complaining to give up than actually fixing our problems.
 
Yeah it's surprisingly inactive for a beta on one of the most popular games on Gaf especially with the release date coming closer and closer. I haven't touched the beta in days.
 
Loudninja said:
Hah that is really silly, way to jump to conclusions, and the topic is no where near dead at all.

Heh I watched that movie yesterday.

Anyway, I haven't played since the other week. I got to level 30 or something and just lost interest. Also Dark Souls came out so I assume that is taking people away from the beta at least to some extent. I mean those threads are huge on this forum and we've gone through 2 of them already I'm sure OT 3 can't be that far off.

Once they get around to fixing some of the known issues I will give it another go. I want to enjoy it so much.
 
jett said:
Why are you still using a weapon that isn't the M9?
Can't handle the recoil and lack of zoom. I could probably get good at it with practice, but I'm fairly comfortable with the GMAL at all ranges.
 
Anyone know if the god awful game play mechanics of this subway release will carry over into the actual single player? I might not even pick the game up if this is the case.
 
LowEndTorque said:
Lobby Group for Returning the MP Back to How it Was in the Beta:

LowEndTorque
Kal2006


Please add yourselves to the list if you are sick of this shit.

Let's keep this shit going folks,

We need to build up a nice long list and brainstorm a way to get our point across in unison and in such a way that it's impossible for them to ignore.

We are already wasting our time complaining in this thread anyways, and we will have a much better chance at getting what we want by giving ND a nice rude awakening gaf style.

anybody with me? ....crickets?....foreveralone.jpg?
 
Im not playing anymore til retail because I don't want my stats to reset + dark souls. I enjoy the MP game a lot ... I mean, I hit LVL35. :)

anyhow.......
 
Yoboman said:
The fact that this thread is basically dead now is a testament to the fact that the new version is no good. People are only going to deal with so much
Yeah, I kind of agree. I don't hate the game like I did a week ago but I'm not dying to play it either.
 
After giving it more time, and switching to the M9, I've had a good time with the MP. It's the perfect counterbalance to Gears, which I've also been spending a lot of time with.

Can't wait for the co-op missions though, easily my favorite part of the MP.
 
Darkatomz said:
Can't handle the recoil and lack of zoom. I could probably get good at it with practice, but I'm fairly comfortable with the GMAL at all ranges.

You're only making yourself suffer here. :P With the M9 the game is great fun. With the GMAL it's insufferably annoying.
 
Yoboman said:
The fact that this thread is basically dead now is a testament to the fact that the new version is no good. People are only going to deal with so much

Gaf = All gamers opinions.

If people hated the game you'd think the beta wouldn't be so active. You are over-reacting. Naughty Dog are paying attention and we already know there's a new patch coming next week. They aren't going to be happy until most people love the MP mode.

It helps to not have the attention span of a coked up toddler. I never understand when people make it their mission to tell everyone how bad a game is. Just give your constructive feedback and either a, play the game if you enjoy it or b, don't.
 
I've decided not to touch this even though I have a multiplayer code from Subway. My plan is to beat the single player mode and then dive into multiplayer after that. I'm expecting a huge patch on day one for multiplayer.
 
The beta is NOT coming back people. You better deal with that. I've already relearned this fucking game yet again, they better not change the basics one more time. Only thing that needs to be done at this point are tweaks here and there. Here's my list:

1.- More stopping power. Just MOAR.
2.- Make the GMAL, the AK47 and the Para-9 useful, because right now they're not only worthless, they just flat out make the game not fun when you use them.
3.- Fucking remove auto-equipping pistols after you drop the treasure. What the fuck is this shit?
4.- Goddamn prioritize grenade pickup for throwback over all others. Fucking no brainer, shit.
5.- Of course, do not even fucking think about touching the M9. Just don't.

The rest I can make my peace with. I'm already used to the increased game speed, in fact I kind of like it now.

Violater said:
seriously how are u supposed to shoot accurately in this game?

If you're not using the M9 you're doing it wrong. Not only does it have an acceptable level of recoil and auto-aim, it's the only weapon that makes a little ding noise when your bullets hit their target. That alone makes the current multiplayer experience a heck of a lot better.
 
jett said:
You're only making yourself suffer here. :P With the M9 the game is great fun. With the GMAL it's insufferably annoying.
I actually don't like the M9. I can't get the hang of the recoil. I've grown to like the AK, even though it doesn't sound as good as the Summer beta.

I remember the Summer beta being much more fun than how the multi is now. What did they do to it? It doesn't feel as responsive or something. I can't quite put my finger on what was changed.

On the bright side, getting into a multiplayer game is pretty fast. Also, joining mid-game is a cool addition versus U2.

I'm going to try to hit level 35 before it ends. I'm at 24 now.
 
eh, Toss me on that list too.

though, I'm ok with the game kind of the way it is. I just run into a lot of run and gun motherfuckers than I really hate. I got sniped by a guy who was running and gunning. Twice. It was not fun. I almost threw my remote into my tv. There is a bit of stopping power, but just a little more and it would make people think twice.

I don't know what the differences were between the summer beta and this (mean I don't know how to enumerate them) but it definitely "felt" better.
 
Sometimes I wish Uncharted had stayed a sp game. That is supposed to be the main draw; the awesome campaign, and mp was just icing on the cake. Sadly, mp is so prominently at the forefront for games these days that people are actually thinking of not buying Uncharted 3 because of the perceived bad quality of it's mp. I guess because I'm an older gamer I don't put as much importance on the mp; I prefer a great sp experience because the internets can be a complete cesspool at times. I just hate to hear people trashing the game before it's out solely because of it's mp.
 
this game is fun!

but there is something..........i don't know whether it's stupid gameplay design or something. but i don't get how it only takes some guys one melee hit to kill me. do you have to aim the cross hair at their head and melee them or something? also, how do i throw the grenade back? it pretty pointless when a guy is chasing me and my guy threw a grenade in the front which s pretty stupid cause that would kill me.

also, the climbing and jumping mechanics are pretty sticky. sometimes i want to roll over from the high ledge to the ground and my guy hang on to the ledge which i ended up getting shot at. and when i tried to jump to the ground form a high platform, he would sometimes jump to the platform next to it.
 
perineumlick said:
Sometimes I wish Uncharted had stayed a sp game. That is supposed to be the main draw; the awesome campaign, and mp was just icing on the cake. Sadly, mp is so prominently at the forefront for games these days that people are actually thinking of not buying Uncharted 3 because of the perceived bad quality of it's mp. I guess because I'm an older gamer I don't put as much importance on the mp; I prefer a great sp experience because the internets can be a complete cesspool at times. I just hate to hear people trashing the game before it's out solely because of it's mp.

It's still an important element of the game now either way it's sliced. ND themselves are the ones who put the spotlight on it claiming the "go to PS3 MP game". I guess they didn't get the memo that good communication with the fans on what the hell is happening is kinda important. It'd also be nice to atleast get a reason on why they changed just about anything from the beta, let alone the fact that the changes are all pretty huge.
 
ThisWreckage said:
I've decided not to touch this even though I have a multiplayer code from Subway. My plan is to beat the single player mode and then dive into multiplayer after that. I'm expecting a huge patch on day one for multiplayer.

seems like a bad choice. you gonna get rape once you beat the sp campaign especially with the beta already out. the sooner you join the fight, the less discourage you'll get.
 
Wow. First time I come in this thread and I'm kind of happy to see that I'm not the only one who is quite (see really) disappointed with UC3 multiplayer current state. I thought I was the only one at first.

I LOVED UC2 vanilla multiplayer (and I was a beast), liked UC3 summer beta (they changed a lot of things from UC2 and didn't like them but hey, game was still enjoyable and I had a great time anyways). But this? Goddamnit, what happened?! Game is complete shit, I get killed all the time while I aim or try to stay in cover (mechanics we're supposed to use...). The only way I can get some kills is running like a monkey around my target, rolling anywhere even if I don't see where I'm going, just spam R1 around without even looking at it and pray the guy die when I just shot over than 2 (3?) complete clips of ammo. This is not the multiplayer I wanted, neither any of us at it seems.

I'm not going to buy it if I only do the single player, a rent will be good. Oh Naughty Dog, you just screwed up my favorite IP of this generation. :(
 
perineumlick said:
Sometimes I wish Uncharted had stayed a sp game. That is supposed to be the main draw; the awesome campaign, and mp was just icing on the cake. Sadly, mp is so prominently at the forefront for games these days that people are actually thinking of not buying Uncharted 3 because of the perceived bad quality of it's mp. I guess because I'm an older gamer I don't put as much importance on the mp; I prefer a great sp experience because the internets can be a complete cesspool at times. I just hate to hear people trashing the game before it's out solely because of it's mp.

to be honest, i wouldn't buy this game if they only have sp campaign, just like how i wouldn't buy batman. not enough contents to warrant the 60 dollars. the multiplayer is what made me decide to buy this game.
 
tigerin said:
this game is fun!

but there is something..........i don't know whether it's stupid gameplay design or something. but i don't get how it only takes some guys one melee hit to kill me. do you have to aim the cross hair at their head and melee them or something? also, how do i throw the grenade back? it pretty pointless when a guy is chasing me and my guy threw a grenade in the front which s pretty stupid cause that would kill me.

also, the climbing and jumping mechanics are pretty sticky. sometimes i want to roll over from the high ledge to the ground and my guy hang on to the ledge which i ended up getting shot at. and when i tried to jump to the ground form a high platform, he would sometimes jump to the platform next to it.

They kill you in 1 melee hit because they damaged you with blindfire - running and gunning without aiming. You shold do the same in close quarters - unload some bullets on them as you're running towards them, and then punch them once for the kill.

Triangle throws the grenade back - there's a small indicator on the grenade if you're within range to throw it back.

If you want to completely drop down without grabbing any ledges on your way down, press and hold circle until you hit the ground.
 
I haven't even played any of the BETA, though my cousin enjoys it, my only thoughts based on what I've seen is that it moves way too fast now. Honestly, almost like it's in fast forward. Slow it down man. Same speed everything as the single player. Should be consistent with the campaign itself imo.
 
Violater said:
The shooting in this game is certainly garbage.

how about focus less on the shooting and more on working with your partner. my shooting sucks and would get kill by anyone i confront. but i usually get more kills and second place or up on my team all the times just by following my partner.
 
perineumlick said:
Sometimes I wish Uncharted had stayed a sp game. That is supposed to be the main draw; the awesome campaign, and mp was just icing on the cake. Sadly, mp is so prominently at the forefront for games these days that people are actually thinking of not buying Uncharted 3 because of the perceived bad quality of it's mp. I guess because I'm an older gamer I don't put as much importance on the mp; I prefer a great sp experience because the internets can be a complete cesspool at times. I just hate to hear people trashing the game before it's out solely because of it's mp.

I don't think it was a bad idea at all. UC2 multiplayer was perfectly designed and worth the play.

Don't get us wrong, the single player campaign will be probably one of the best experiences this year... But I think we're frustrated that multiplayer has been going downhill from UC2 and ND doesn't seem to care. In fact, I think they love the way it is.
 
tigerin said:
this game is fun!

but there is something..........i don't know whether it's stupid gameplay design or something. but i don't get how it only takes some guys one melee hit to kill me. do you have to aim the cross hair at their head and melee them or something? also, how do i throw the grenade back? it pretty pointless when a guy is chasing me and my guy threw a grenade in the front which s pretty stupid cause that would kill me.

also, the climbing and jumping mechanics are pretty sticky. sometimes i want to roll over from the high ledge to the ground and my guy hang on to the ledge which i ended up getting shot at. and when i tried to jump to the ground form a high platform, he would sometimes jump to the platform next to it.

Triangle to throw grenades back and hold circle to avoid hanging onto ledges.
 
I think the biggest difficulty with aiming is the heavy recoil combined w/ the reticle bloom. I am getting better with the game but you have to be very, very precise in the way that you aim. I kind of appreciate that each gun has its own recoil characteristics that must be mastered but the game is overall less fun than it used to be.
 
tigerin said:
how about focus less on the shooting and more on working with your partner. my shooting sucks and would get kill by anyone i confront. but i usually get more kills and second place or up on my team all the times just by following my partner.

how about no
the shooting is broken, aiming does not work, the recoil is ridiculous and the beginning guns are piss weak.

And I probably just suck at the game too, seriously does any one aim down sights in this game?
 
DigiMish said:
They kill you in 1 melee hit because they damaged you with blindfire - running and gunning without aiming. You shold do the same in close quarters - unload some bullets on them as you're running towards them, and then punch them once for the kill.

Triangle throws the grenade back - there's a small indicator on the grenade if you're within range to throw it back.

If you want to completely drop down without grabbing any ledges on your way down, press and hold circle until you hit the ground.

i would understand if they happen to shoot me before they melee. but in most cases, the guy didn't see me when i melee him from the side or back. then he turned around and melee me once. i'm thinking he have some kind of melee booster?

wait, so i can't throw it back whenever i want? that's stupid.

yea, i'll try holding the O longer next time. thanks.
 
Violater said:
how about no
the shooting is broken, aiming does not work, the recoil is ridiculous and the beginning guns are piss weak.

And I probably just suck at the game too, seriously does any one aim down sights in this game?

that's why you focus less on the shooting. don't be stubborn, think outside the box dude.

follow the teammates has a lot of good sides to it. if you're getting shoot at, he can shoot the other guy and save you or draws the attention away from you........if anything, u can steal his kills. lol that's my secret to be good at this game. u can take it if u want or get frustrate with the game.
 
perineumlick said:
Sometimes I wish Uncharted had stayed a sp game. That is supposed to be the main draw; the awesome campaign, and mp was just icing on the cake. Sadly, mp is so prominently at the forefront for games these days that people are actually thinking of not buying Uncharted 3 because of the perceived bad quality of it's mp. I guess because I'm an older gamer I don't put as much importance on the mp; I prefer a great sp experience because the internets can be a complete cesspool at times. I just hate to hear people trashing the game before it's out solely because of it's mp.
If Uncharted 2 was just a single player game, I would have regretted the purchase.
 
tigerin said:
to be honest, i wouldn't buy this game if they only have sp campaign, just like how i wouldn't buy batman. not enough contents to warrant the 60 dollars. the multiplayer is what made me decide to buy this game.
I never agree with this sentiment. Not every game has to have mp imo, and a game's value should not be judged on whether it has mp or not. But that's just me.
 
perineumlick said:
Sometimes I wish Uncharted had stayed a sp game. That is supposed to be the main draw; the awesome campaign, and mp was just icing on the cake. Sadly, mp is so prominently at the forefront for games these days that people are actually thinking of not buying Uncharted 3 because of the perceived bad quality of it's mp. I guess because I'm an older gamer I don't put as much importance on the mp; I prefer a great sp experience because the internets can be a complete cesspool at times. I just hate to hear people trashing the game before it's out solely because of it's mp.


I'm sure this will infuriate some, but unless something has drastically changed it's still a six~ hour long corridor/cover shooter with no real replay value. That, to me, regardless of the amazing presentation just isn't a day one kind of thing. That's something I borrow and beat on a lazy sunday or pick up six months later for 20 bucks. If they wanted to drop multiplayer entirely and flesh the hell out of the campaign beyond a bog standard shooter, then I'd be happy to support that but reality is what it is.

Now, I've always been down on most console multiplayer titles, and I've given up on competetive titles entirely over the past ~four or five years myslef but I had a ton of fun with the Uncharted 2's multiplayer beta and it got me to buy it day one desptie being busy with Demon's Souls at the time. There was something about it, it really fit in as a good half n' half kind of serious/goofy style of play and it also fit better to a console design than all of these other FPS's and shooters in general.

It's the kind of multiplayer I wanted to see more of on the console side. It's a shame if they want to go the other way but it's shocking to me that a game like this would want to spend more time chasing a bigger audience, so I'm hardly surprised.
 
I still play the MP every day, but there's nothing to discuss about because everything has been mentioned. Everyone is in agreement (including me) that the beta was better. I had gathered up thoughts to write a huge feedback post tonight like I did for the original beta, but at this point I don't think it's worth it anymore because who knows, what if the retail version plays differently all of a sudden? it happened with the beta once now. It's a big waste of time.
 
22-8 on TDM. Fuck yeah. If you can't aim in this game it's your fault(that or you're not using the M9).

Seriously, use the fucking M9.
 
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