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VGTech's COD Cold War 120FPS mode comparison
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megreotsugua
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I hope xbox fans have learned their lesson. You can't trust MS PR buzzwords.
sircaw
Banned
Keeping in line with the Cod theme
DynamiteCop!
Kagey K
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MrFunSocks
HEadshot
the reaper has arrived.
DynamiteCop!
Kagey K
LeftThumbstick
MrFunSocks
the reaper has arrived.
inflation
Member
"industry standard"
Rea
Member
That was such a nasty look.
Potato Chip PRO
Member
I meant how it performs against SX and PS5 fooYou dont buy the series s for performance
DynamiteCop!
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Even in light of DF explicitly stating the GDK is in its infancy, widespread reports over the last 9 months of devkits shipping out late, and developers using PC, do they still try to peg this to Microsoft lying and some kind of hardware issue.
It's software kiddos, you're acting like you have amnesia and don't clearly understand this or remember these things, I'm out. Once the software and familiarity catches up performance will transition, it's not a question of if but rather when.
It's software kiddos, you're acting like you have amnesia and don't clearly understand this or remember these things, I'm out. Once the software and familiarity catches up performance will transition, it's not a question of if but rather when.
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Explosive Zombie
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All of that might be true, but software can only do so much beyond what the hardware is capable of. Even if the tools were better, it would still only result in parity, which is a far cry from what some people have drilled into everyone's heads for the past year about the power difference of these consoles.
DynamiteCop!
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Parity? The hardware isn't in parity, this doesn't make any sense. This is a growing pain issue with software which will be eradicated and then all of this will flip on its head.
It's inevitable.
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Portugeezer
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RDNA 2.5 > full RDNA 2
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
94% (PS5) and 92% (XsX) don't sound awful, but look at the screen tearing, it's absolutely off the charts on both.
In practice those dropped frames will be felt on both consoles. The fact one dips to 92 and the other to only 97 won't make it feel any less janky. Definitely not the mode to play unless you have VRR.
As for the other mode, I think it's worthy of discussion based on the Series S results, if nothing else.
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BlueXImpulse
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PS5 definitely has a faster CPU.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
Flip what on its head? The Xbox tools getting better will make PS5 perform worse? The important point here is that PS5 is performing well above what you all have been saying it would.
The hardware difference even on paper is barely anything, and that's not even counting for any other unknown customisations and tweaks that might exist. Last gen, the power difference between PS4 and X1 was immediately apparent, almost every launch multiplat showed it to some extent. Because the power difference on paper was much larger then and there were other issues on top of that holding X1 back. There are no such big differences this time. These consoles are nearly identical.
DynamiteCop!
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
cyberpunk will be running the game in BC mode and xbox will get the xbox one x mode which should run 40% better.
Yoboman
Member
It is over. Maybe your acceptance of it isn't, but you'll get thereThinking this is by any means over....
Oh don't worry, people will spin that into oblivion somehow.
sircaw
Banned
Thinking this is by any means over....
i thought you left the thread? you back for seconds?
kingwingin
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Without vrr, xbox wins hands down.
inflation
Member
If CDPR delayed these many times and the game isn't running native, people are gonna talk
They've already confirmed it wont be native. Not until some vague time next year.If CDPR delayed these many times and the game isn't running native, people are gonna talk
DynamiteCop!
Banned
What's to accept? Xbox has definitively better hardware, that's not in contention and anyone thinking it is is highly delusional.
We know the "GDK" is in its infancy, we've had reports repeatedly over the last 9 months that devkits were shipping out much later and developers were using target PC's. There's not some mystery as to what is taking place here, it's immature software coupled with the late arrival of actual hardware.
This will all smooth out, again not a question, and the Xbox will be leading almost universally across the board. You guys have an isolated period in time that's not going to last, enjoy it.
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M_A_C
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Lol. Ok some of these posters have to be playing a joke on us... right?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
If CDPR delayed these many times and the game isn't running native, people are gonna talk
Like, will there be no PS5/XSX versions of that game at all? That really sucks. I thought there would be, but that they would just be basic cross-gen versions and the real next-gen upgrade is coming next year.
BlueXImpulse
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Read the description, it will help you a lot.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
They can't control themselves, when faced with the overwhelming reality of what's actually taking place they instead choose to ignore it, act like it's somehow this more powerful hardware being weaker, and then act like a pack of wild animals without thinking of the future consequences.
This behavior and these threads will come back to haunt them.
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3liteDragon
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sircaw
Banned
you must really feel let down by spencer though? esp after the last generation and having to make sure they got this start right. You must admit this is far from ideal, in fact its pretty damn awful, allowing such a weak machine to beat the monster that is the xbox.
And we have not even got to the point of sony's first part studios when they start delivering the goods with that crazy ssd.
Just imagine what naughty dog and SM are going to do with this tech from ps5.
Just think about those two, holy hells bells.
Yoboman
Member
The levels of denial are palpable
Here's a clue: both tools will mature significantly more and developers will get further gains on both. The difference will remain.
Here's another clue: DX12 will always be a massive overhead on performance and PS5 will always be able to reach a higher level of peak performance
Hardware design, tools, Series S. You name it, there's a bottleneck in there for Series X
kyliethicc
Member
No shit...
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Because without that MS had nothing, literally no USP over the PS5, so they played the cards they had.
I don't blame them, and I think the XSX is a reality nice console. But looking back, it was probably telling that so few games were shown prior to launch.
I'm sure over time their tools will improve, but it is not as if Sony's told will stay stagnant. Also even if there is an on paper advantage for XSX, what is the incentive for a muli-plat developer to optimise for it beyond the PS5 when it probably accounts for less than half the number of consoles, especially if they also have to target XSS and PC. I imagine that they'll probably just treat all DX12U devices as one and settle for their engines scaling nicely for all device permutations rather than put any special effort into the XSX.
MS needs to get their first parties in order, they are really the best hope to show the power of the console, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's 2022 before we see anything meaningful released from them in that respect.
You should understand what output means, this is different than rendring resolution
sircaw
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DynamiteCop!
Banned
It's not an ideal situation absolutely, but it's clearly one birthed of software so I'm not worried about it whatsoever. I've been around hardware for long enough to clearly see what's taking place. Early titles, immature SDK, late arrival of devkits.
This is a temporary state of affairs, and luckily it's during a period and with a set of games I couldn't really care less about.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
So now xbox fans not only have to wait on games, they also have to wait on tools.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Great performance by both consoles. Very impressive to see PS5 performing this well though, that can’t be denied.
Rudius
Member
Impressive.
itsnotme
Member
It when from "Microsoft always shows their stuff running of Pcs there's no need to worry they're not behind to wait for the development tools to improve"
Wait for E3
Wait for Halo infinite
Wait for August
Do you not get bored of waiting?
Now it's wait for Dev kits? Because only one platforms APIs will improve whilst the other stays stagnant... Right? That is what you're trying to say? Not really shocked at the stupidity since it's coming from a person who said the PS5 DE isn't a PS5...