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White House gender pay gap more than triples under Trump (WaPo)
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Forerunner
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Nobody has more respect for women than I do.
Common Knowledge
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Well, I'm sure the women who allow Trump to grab their pussy get raises.
Man-is-Obsolete
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But look at all the women he hires
for less
TheCochese
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Grab them by their purses.
Gordon Shumway
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Show a little cleavage..wear shorter skirts..
LinkAndEpona
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What the break down of the actual positions look like?
It's actually both depressing and terrifying that white women are so afraid of foreigners that even this kind of treatment is preferable to minorities getting a fair shake. What's going on in American education/social spheres that the majority of white women voters actually thought to themselves, "Sure! It sucks for me, but as long as those colored people are kept in line, this is worth it."
DarkestHour
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This is probably the case and these seem to all be lower pay positions anyways.It's probably chance and not something deliberate. Anything the media can do to put a negative spin on whomever is currently President. Same thing happened when Obama went in to office. So sick of this shit.
There's absolutely no data here showing how many women are hired, how many men are hired, what positions they hold, etc...useless data. How do we know women in higher paying positions didn't quit? Article also has zero data supporting pay inequality. Just because more men at this time have higher paying positions does not prove that women doing the same exact role with the same exact experience are being paid less.
I suppose hiring less women than men is in no way an inequality either, that just happened by chance and not something deliberate, and doesn't represent a gender gap in the administration.
When you're taught systemic sexism in all facets of life, there are women that truly believe themselves to be the 'lesser gender' and all sorts of other stuff instead of actively questioning it. It's not just a fear of immigrants, it's a bit more than that.
Also the fact that SOME privilege (from being white) is better than NO privilege (cuz you ain't white).
Gordon Shumway
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Article specifically states that it's mostly due to men being in higher paying roles. It doesn't really go into detail about differences between men and women filling the same roles.
Beardz
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This
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The Autumn Wind
Won't someone think of the poor misogynistic sexual predator in the White House?! #MAGA
Discouraging. But makes sense.
While I get the anger, Trump and his cabinet have put themselves in a position to deserve this with the bs they are doing unlike Obama who received negative spin just for being black.
Netherscourge
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This seems to be less about pay-structure and more about men taking all the higher-paying jobs.
Have they compared the salary of male and female staffers working the same exact position/post? If that pay is identical, then the problem is Trump choosing too many men and not enough women for certain posts.
Have they compared the salary of male and female staffers working the same exact position/post? If that pay is identical, then the problem is Trump choosing too many men and not enough women for certain posts.
efyu_lemonardo
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Probably
smokeandmirrors
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I mean he's also not hiring anyone plus the whole sexist mysogynistic asshole thing doesn't help
Pandora012
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Just pay them lady bucks. They wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Though it might have to do with the fact he hasn't been hiring anyone and the areas he does are usually men. Which isn't a good thing either.
Though it might have to do with the fact he hasn't been hiring anyone and the areas he does are usually men. Which isn't a good thing either.
She checks off two boxes for him.
Bits N Pieces
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UnemployedVillain
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While I'm sure this would be true by any metric with Trump it seems odd that this is just a simple look at medians. I thought pay gap referred to the gap between genders for the same/similar positions
If they don't like it, they can always go find another job, right!?
CitizenVectron
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In this case the article really should have been titled "White House employs systemic sexist hiring practice under Trump." While it's also possible that women are being paid less for the same work (I'm not ruling that out), this seems to mostly be a case of hiring a disproportionate amount of men for important positions, and skipping over women.
It depends on the context.
Here we seem to be looking at the salaries just of everyone employed by the WH, so it's not likely that low-level female aides are categorically making significantly less than their male peers. Rather, it's more likely that relatively fewer women are employed in more senior, better-paid positions as compared to the Bush and Obama WHs.
Yep. I think this is far more accurate. He was blatant about discriminating based on wealth in his cabinet, and based on his past conduct and statements I would not be surprised if he does not see women as not fit for certain top decision making jobs.
That said, the article does mention this is for all White House staffers, so it's not misleading in that sense.
hydragonwarrior
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Trump Supporter: "Those stats don't mean anything. Stop being such an SJW!"
archreaper93
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So did he starting paying men more or women less?
PSlayer
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ClosingADoor
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The jobs aren't the same, so you can't compare it one on one. But it is troubling that Trump is then hiring way fewer women in higher positions that would pay better.
"Pay gap", indeed.
whatsinaname
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If you put aside that assumption, the other explanation would be that his team staffs all the higher paying jobs with men.
And considering the gap in the previous administrations, any possible excuse of "maybe there are no women that qualify for those higher paying jobs" won't apply either.
PSlayer
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How do you think that "women are paid 70% of men's salary" meme was created?
whatsinaname said:
Sure but that is not my point! If they want to accuse Trump from having a male dominated workplace that is fine but name it like that. At best this was a case of bad wording, at worst this is the jornalist twisting facts to maximize retweets.
Probably not, since the male/female ratio for the top staff is almost 3:1
Man, he really likes locker rooms
mugurumakensei
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Either he's hiring less women into higher paying jobs or he's paying women less for the same work. Both of these scenarios are symptoms of wide-spread sexism in the Trump WH.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
there have never been MORE women paid less than in my administration! fiscal conservative, indeed!
MagnaderAlpha
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Trump: "I love all sexes -- men or women -- but in those particular positions, I just don't want hysterical women..."
Pretty much.
spiderman123
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And lets not forget bonuses are based on the size of your dick. Which in Trump's case would be about 50 cents.