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White Wishes - Tales of Graces F (Spoilerific) Import Thread (now with more PS3!)
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RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
This needs to come to the US, hopefully sometime in June 'cause then I can ask for my birthday in early July! :-D
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Does the main dude look like a poor Elvis impersonator to anyone? :lol
I've seen some pretty bad outfits in the Tales games but this one takes the cake, IMO.
I love the series but sometimes these anime-ish character designs are just too much!
The game is probably a great Tales game though, according to Famitsu's high reviews. I hope it comes here. The Wii needs more RPGs.
I've seen some pretty bad outfits in the Tales games but this one takes the cake, IMO.
I love the series but sometimes these anime-ish character designs are just too much!
The game is probably a great Tales game though, according to Famitsu's high reviews. I hope it comes here. The Wii needs more RPGs.
So I'm a bit late to the party here, but I wanted to wait until I could get the fixed version before I started. I'm about 4 hours in
, and all I can say so far is that it's really fun. The CC system plus the step around feature are just wonderful, as is the concept of the critical gauge for making you perform as well as you can in battle. The CC bonus you get for side stepping just before an attack lands on you is great, and it's an implementation of one of my absolute favorite action game features - timed dodging/blocking. I also really like the title system in this one. Seems like the best implementation yet.
The game is surprisingly light on skits, especially for a Team Destiny game (it is one, right?). I'm used to like 4-5 skits basically saying the same thing after each event in their games, but the amount so far has been pretty low. I'm sure I've missed some, too, though, since they appear to be fairly contextual based on your location and whether you've made discoveries or not, etc. Also, the synopses are really sparse compared to what I'm used to in other Tales games. 4 hours in and there's only 3 one-page entries that don't say a whole lot.
Still, overall, I'm having a great time. I don't want to be so quick to say it's my favorite Tales battle system, but it at least has a ton of potential. I'm looking forward to gaining access to B styles and any other additional features.
met up with Richard at Baronia
The game is surprisingly light on skits, especially for a Team Destiny game (it is one, right?). I'm used to like 4-5 skits basically saying the same thing after each event in their games, but the amount so far has been pretty low. I'm sure I've missed some, too, though, since they appear to be fairly contextual based on your location and whether you've made discoveries or not, etc. Also, the synopses are really sparse compared to what I'm used to in other Tales games. 4 hours in and there's only 3 one-page entries that don't say a whole lot.
Still, overall, I'm having a great time. I don't want to be so quick to say it's my favorite Tales battle system, but it at least has a ton of potential. I'm looking forward to gaining access to B styles and any other additional features.
Overall there are still over 300 skits, it's just that you don't get them automatically anymore but have to activate them in the right locations so they are missable in a way.
Regarding Tatsuro Udo's ("Team Destiny") battle system it definitely trumps all previous 3D ones, and I'm looking forward to seeing with what takes on it he comes up in the next game. I also hope Takashi Hasegawa ("Team Symphonia") took note of Graces and is finally less conservative with his next game's battle system.
Have fun with your play through. =)
Regarding Tatsuro Udo's ("Team Destiny") battle system it definitely trumps all previous 3D ones, and I'm looking forward to seeing with what takes on it he comes up in the next game. I also hope Takashi Hasegawa ("Team Symphonia") took note of Graces and is finally less conservative with his next game's battle system.
Have fun with your play through. =)
Yeah, the battle system is wonderful. I'm not sure if I like it more than Rebirth's or not just yet, but it's still great. I just got access to the B style and stuff, so battles have gotten even more interesting. I also just tried the Turtle Merchant DS minigame and it's a really cool idea. I did one floor and got a bunch of stat raising items available in the shop. It'd be cool if more Wii games had connectivity like that.
mjemirzian
Banned
How does the combat system hold up to Bayonetta, DMC, Ninja Gaiden, etc. ?
Tales games are fun but always seem simplistic in comparison to those.. I've only played the US releases like Abyss, Symphonia, Vesperia, Destiny 1 and 2, etc.
Tales games are fun but always seem simplistic in comparison to those.. I've only played the US releases like Abyss, Symphonia, Vesperia, Destiny 1 and 2, etc.
Urban Scholar
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darkwings said:
We are getting this in Western regions, I'm sure of it.....I hope. I mean Tales of the Abyss can't be the only Tales of game I have
Sammy Samusu
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Bump did not delivered.darkwings said:
Sammy Samusu
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Contra owned! I wasn't mt intention to be rude, sorry!darkwings said:
nincompoop
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There are fan translations in the works, so with any luck we might be able to play this by 2012 or 2013.
I actually went on GameFAQs today (yeah, I know...) and saw that someone just released a work-in-progress patch which translates some of the menus, so you could always try that out if you don't care about missing the story.
I actually went on GameFAQs today (yeah, I know...) and saw that someone just released a work-in-progress patch which translates some of the menus, so you could always try that out if you don't care about missing the story.
I keep hearing about this game and I like to give games I hear about alot a try so I can at least join in the conversation.
Well the thing is I really found Tales of Symphonia to be boring and I hated the characters, would it be wise to import this? Or should I just steer clear with how I felt about ToS?
Well the thing is I really found Tales of Symphonia to be boring and I hated the characters, would it be wise to import this? Or should I just steer clear with how I felt about ToS?
ShockingAlberto
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I have there were plans to bring it months ago, but a loss in staff benched it permanently.mugwhump said:
Glass Soldier
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xero273 said:
Nice! How does the FF4 translation exactly work? I remember reading that you don't need to hack your Wii for it to work.
Glass Soldier said:
From what I read, the files that are needed to run the Fatal Frame 4 translation are loaded onto the SD card. You just download the files. Follow the instructions. Put files that are needed onto SD card. Go into the SD card channel on the wii and follow on screen prompts and it should work.
Glass Soldier
Banned
xero273 said:
Cool. If they finish Graces I'll import both games.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Great, can't wait.xero273 said:
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
xero273 said:
Do that meant I have to buy japanese wii in order to run ToG?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
xero273 said:
Alright, how? I have NA Wii but if i decide to order ToG when translation is done. How the heck my NA wii would running the game?
(I know people would say homebrew but I don't think I want to do that)
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
xero273 said:
oh wow.. that's awesome
instant buy for me then.
Edited: so do that meant other translation would do same thing for Rebirth and ToD remake? or is it just for wii translation?
cosmicblizzard
Banned
xero273 said:
Thanks. Bookmarked. Hope it's not TOO long of a wait but I got plenty of stuff to play in the mean time.
The Alchemist Penguin
Member
This is great news. The group are going to do a fantastic job, and they're also pretty quick. I'll need to keep an eye out for a cheap copy of Graces that I can import now.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
xero273 said:
Dang.
At least, we can play ToG
MattyGrovesOrMe
Member
Graces is supposedly going to PS3 in Japan... Sony fans can get in on the import fun. Still no word on NA/EU release.
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/07/28/new_tales_for_ps3/
Edit: AND i missed this thread, all about the new Tales news: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402422
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/07/28/new_tales_for_ps3/
Edit: AND i missed this thread, all about the new Tales news: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402422
Are there any characters that leave for a prolonged period of time in this game? I usually play as the main character in Tales games, but I want to try something different here. I want someone that's going to stay in the party forever. I'm still at the part where they're still kids, but Richard seems so strong! Sophie is okay, but I don't really like her aerial attacks.
Well since Kiryogi made such a nice OT for Graces last year, I figure it's best to use it for discussing ToG-F as well instead of making a separate thread.
Got mine today. Installing now. Game requires a full 4.5gig install :X and has a reversible cover:
The DLC store is up and full of ridiculous stuff. Code Geass costumes are $5+ per character and then you can pay $2+ to unlock costumes normally unlockable in the game already. They're also getting ready to charge for items and SKITS. Wtffffff. There's a free skit up now, but if they start charging for skits they're going off the deep end. But unfortunately, as Vesperia showed, in terms of DLC Tales is the new Id@lmaster. So expect hundreds of dollars of DLC for costumes, accesories, items, skits, whatever.
And this is on top of a game that costs $90 for an upscaled Wii port with extra features :| Over the years with all their prices and milking I feel like I've been single handedly keeping Namco in business :lol
Still need to get Vesperia PS3 someday. Was waiting for the price to crash in the used market, but it's still $65+
Anyhow impressions in bit.
Got mine today. Installing now. Game requires a full 4.5gig install :X and has a reversible cover:
The DLC store is up and full of ridiculous stuff. Code Geass costumes are $5+ per character and then you can pay $2+ to unlock costumes normally unlockable in the game already. They're also getting ready to charge for items and SKITS. Wtffffff. There's a free skit up now, but if they start charging for skits they're going off the deep end. But unfortunately, as Vesperia showed, in terms of DLC Tales is the new Id@lmaster. So expect hundreds of dollars of DLC for costumes, accesories, items, skits, whatever.
And this is on top of a game that costs $90 for an upscaled Wii port with extra features :| Over the years with all their prices and milking I feel like I've been single handedly keeping Namco in business :lol
Still need to get Vesperia PS3 someday. Was waiting for the price to crash in the used market, but it's still $65+
Anyhow impressions in bit.
Alright so I got caught out of left field for this. I guess I preordered it awhile back, and forgot about it. And was basically not gonna get it. But ncsx emails me saying I got decline. (As I wasn't prepared for this) However, I guess I'm gonna bite. Might as well ! :/ I just gave NCSX the go ahead to try again. Fuuuuck 95$ D:
InternHertz
Member
My copy's en route, delivering programmed for tuesday, I can't wait. And I will buy, like Vesperia, all the DLC available :lol
And Bebpo, if you want I still have a ToV ps3 untouched with DLC card included if you want :lol Bought two 'cause I wasn't sure I would get the preorder bonuses, and since then I'm stuck with it >_<
And Bebpo, if you want I still have a ToV ps3 untouched with DLC card included if you want :lol Bought two 'cause I wasn't sure I would get the preorder bonuses, and since then I'm stuck with it >_<
Wow, that's quite the collection, even the Fandom games and Tempest. I still need to get the Inomata artbook.Bebpo said:
I ordered my copy from Amazon and had it shipped to my friends japanese address. Hopefully I'll get the game before Christmas.
Since Bebpo posted his collection, here's my game collection along with some of the official guide and scenario books.
Hmmm, so yeah the game is a little sharper, the colors are much better (very apparent in the anime fmvs), and less jaggies so the hairlines don't shimmer everywhere. Loading seems about the same as Wii version, maybe a tad bit faster.
otoh, the game is identical. From reading the manual it seems like the new Accel Meter isn't even in the main game and is only part of the future chapter. I wouldn't even be surprised if all the new hi-ougis are in there as well. So it seems like the main chapter is left completely untouched.
Which is a little annoying since you can't play the future chapter until you have a clear save from the main chapter. I'm kind of ranting but P3 FES was essentially the same type of re-release with new chapter and it was done way better. In FES you could start right at the new chapter or if you wanted to replay the main game there were a bunch of new additions to motivate a 2nd playthrough. There's really no motivation to replay Graces besides clearing it as fast as possible to unlock the new chapter. So I'll probably just speed run it, skipping all the cutscenes/skits. The gameplay is still really fun, but no interest in watching all the cutscenes again. The story was fine, but it's been a year and I can still remember it Just wish you could have started at the future chapter. The trophies seem pretty bland. Mainly just "collect x amount of titles" for each character, clear the game on every difficulty, and probably a bunch of story progression unlocked ones.
One thing that's kind of nice about replaying Tales games at least is the fact that most of the characters are fun to play as, so you can focus on different characters each time. I mainly just used Asbel in the original, so I'll try using Sophie as my main this time around.
What did seem new to the PS3 version is a challenge mode. You load up your save and different challenges are unlocked depending on your highest character level. The challenge battles pit you against a set group of enemies/bosses and your scored at the end (I'm guessing scored by speed?). You get a set item for clearing a challenge that goes back into your save file for use in the main game and you can compare online leaderboards for highest scores for each battle. Though the leaderboards seem busted. You can only see the top 10 scores and the bottom 10 scores right now....^^; The battles are kind of fun enemy groups though and getting some unique/good items to take back into your game should be cool. Still there's only 27 challenges total and by the end you need a lvl.175 character to unlock the last one, so....
I know how you feel. I still have two Xenosaga Episode 2s with one shrinkwrapped Not only do I have doubles, but I have doubles of the worst game in the series!
I'll send you a pm about that Vesperia.
otoh, the game is identical. From reading the manual it seems like the new Accel Meter isn't even in the main game and is only part of the future chapter. I wouldn't even be surprised if all the new hi-ougis are in there as well. So it seems like the main chapter is left completely untouched.
Which is a little annoying since you can't play the future chapter until you have a clear save from the main chapter. I'm kind of ranting but P3 FES was essentially the same type of re-release with new chapter and it was done way better. In FES you could start right at the new chapter or if you wanted to replay the main game there were a bunch of new additions to motivate a 2nd playthrough. There's really no motivation to replay Graces besides clearing it as fast as possible to unlock the new chapter. So I'll probably just speed run it, skipping all the cutscenes/skits. The gameplay is still really fun, but no interest in watching all the cutscenes again. The story was fine, but it's been a year and I can still remember it
Just wish you could have started at the future chapter. The trophies seem pretty bland. Mainly just "collect x amount of titles" for each character, clear the game on every difficulty, and probably a bunch of story progression unlocked ones. One thing that's kind of nice about replaying Tales games at least is the fact that most of the characters are fun to play as, so you can focus on different characters each time. I mainly just used Asbel in the original, so I'll try using Sophie as my main this time around.
What did seem new to the PS3 version is a challenge mode. You load up your save and different challenges are unlocked depending on your highest character level. The challenge battles pit you against a set group of enemies/bosses and your scored at the end (I'm guessing scored by speed?). You get a set item for clearing a challenge that goes back into your save file for use in the main game and you can compare online leaderboards for highest scores for each battle. Though the leaderboards seem busted. You can only see the top 10 scores and the bottom 10 scores right now....^^; The battles are kind of fun enemy groups though and getting some unique/good items to take back into your game should be cool. Still there's only 27 challenges total and by the end you need a lvl.175 character to unlock the last one, so....
InternHertz said:
I know how you feel. I still have two Xenosaga Episode 2s with one shrinkwrapped
Not only do I have doubles, but I have doubles of the worst game in the series!I'll send you a pm about that Vesperia.
BoilersFan23
Member
Even I own ToV PS3 JP import and you call yourself a Tales fan. I'm just messing with you.Bebpo said:Well since Kiryogi made such a nice OT for Graces last year, I figure it's best to use it for discussing ToG-F as well instead of making a separate thread.
Got mine today. Installing now. Game requires a full 4.5gig install :X and has a reversible cover:
The DLC store is up and full of ridiculous stuff. Code Geass costumes are $5+ per character and then you can pay $2+ to unlock costumes normally unlockable in the game already. They're also getting ready to charge for items and SKITS. Wtffffff. There's a free skit up now, but if they start charging for skits they're going off the deep end. But unfortunately, as Vesperia showed, in terms of DLC Tales is the new Id@lmaster. So expect hundreds of dollars of DLC for costumes, accesories, items, skits, whatever.
And this is on top of a game that costs $90 for an upscaled Wii port with extra features :| Over the years with all their prices and milking I feel like I've been single handedly keeping Namco in business :lol
Still need to get Vesperia PS3 someday. Was waiting for the price to crash in the used market, but it's still $65+
Anyhow impressions in bit.
Anyway, very impressive Tales collection. I am disappointed to hear about the install for ToG F. My HDD is almost full and don't really need another install right now (I ordered the Asia version at Play-Asia for under $60 using a coupon).