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Xbox One Tour - Highly disappointed in system and graphics

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It's totally cool for you to have got past the events from May 21. I'm not at all judging that, I think there is plenty of reasonable argument that the system deserves real consideration now. I am seriously getting more sold on getting it earlier rather than later due to a few key games, for example.

"NeoGAF" is not a hivemind, but if you are discussing on a case by case basis, of course the initial motivation is never 'the greater good.' It's always very selfish. My motivations for what I want out of my systems is also very selfish. But just because it's selfish doesn't mean those feelings don't coincide with a greater good, or aren't synonymous with a fight for certain types of consumer rights.

Ya, but that still doesn't excuse the consistent hate on repeat imo. Example, do you know what i did when PS Network went down? I opened my Xbox. THAT my friend will hurt and make them listen a lot more then these threads ever will.

Im off to try it.

Peace.
 
Hardware, but not the console.

Probably headset shortage, and idk how you telling us..but not telling us lol

totally sounds like a headset shortage.

remember, they didn't intend to include one until a few months ago. now that they're throwing one in every box they don't have enough to sell as accessories.

hopefully the build quality is better than the shitty 360 headset. if it breaks you wont be be able to find a replacement until MS delivers due to the new proprietary connector.
 
You expect me to believe that NeoGaf is doing this for the better of the company? They have the greater good in mind? lol I dont buy that one bit.

I won't interfere with the exchange you have been having with Amir0x, but I find the need to call you out when you constantly refer to Gaf as some kind of homogenous entity with a singular purpose. Gaf is a place, not a person. Stop treating it like a hive mind. If you were part of the driveclub rumor thread, you would realize that there are all kinds of people with all kinds of conflicting opinions. I'd urge you not to direct your arguments against the community and provoke those who have shown you respect by patiently reading all your comments.
 
I have a feeling the bad news is either

Less consoles shipped than originally thought

or

something silly like a play and charge kit wont be on sale on launch date but you can use the AA batteries included in the box
 
The poster drew attention to his post history in the OP, it is fair game in that case.

It's not fair game because the OP's post history does not in of itself change whether the impressions have merit (I also don't know what you mean by he 'drew attention to his post history'... I mean, he made a topic. He did not say 'scan my post history.' Does merely posting a topic warrant that now? Edit: He admitted his biases up front, so why did anyone even need to dig and automatically reject? Discuss the content!) It's the DETAILS of the impressions that determine whether it has merit or not. Were they inaccurate? Did they fail to adequately describe the gameplay experience? What would you say you disagree with specifically about his controller impressions?

But maybe that's just a more interesting conversation to me? Maybe the post history is really fascinating :P
 
I also have a perverse need to protect those who share negative opinions on anything. I have been called negative on occasion ;)

But yeah, you get what I'm saying. It's not that the impressions were good (they weren't), it's that more people spent time focusing on the poster himself rather than describing why they weren't good.

I really don't see much value in highly detailed technical analysis of every single game on display, as these (most likely) weren't very recent builds. I intended to convey a general sense of my disappointment with Xbox One graphics (and the controller) rather than a technical breakdown. A sense that isn't diminished by small improvements that may happen up to release time (BF4, for example, was a mess: Aliasing everywhere, extreme pop-in of textures and shadows, I think tearing as well - I expect this to get better by launch, but the fact the game is running at almost the same resolution as current gen will remain as a huge blemish). Maybe I should have been more verbose in general, but I always fear that long OPs go generally unread. Better to directly face and answer the community!

In regards to gameplay, none of the games present really spoke to me, expect for Forza maybe (even BF was an infantry-only battle on a small map).
 
I mean, it's not something that will be a huge deal for every single XBOX ONE owner unless you were looking forward to adding some extra items to your cart on launch, and not like the system won't have one in the box. Ok, not saying anymore. Sorry.

I guess this means headset included only with day one edition boxes and you need to buy it separately for all regular editions? Oh well, we'll find out tomorrow anyway.
 
7 pages. Amazing. At least we had a few hours where people got a chance to discuss the merits of a new Ryse trailer. Welp, back to normal I guess.

It was inevitable that someone would crash that party w/ regard to negative news, even if it is only an impression by a lone poster.
 
Yep, that should tell you everything you need to know.
It's pretty shameful to see how many of you, who don't have particularly great post histories to brag about yourselves, are attacking the OP for this after he gave full disclosure of his bias and even acknowledged his post history right from the start. What's the point exactly of trying to beat over the head about it again and again?
 
It's not fair game because the OP's post history does not in of itself change whether the impressions have merit (I also don't know what you mean by he 'drew attention to his post history'... I mean, he made a topic. He did not say 'scan my post history.' Does merely posting a topic warrant that now?) It's the DETAILS of the impressions that determine whether it has merit or not. Were they inaccurate? Did they fail to adequately describe the gameplay experience? What would you say you disagree with specifically about his controller impressions?

But maybe that's just a more interesting conversation to me? Maybe the post history is really fascinating :P

I haven't even looked at the post history, but if something merits a paragraph in the OP, then to discuss it is on topic surely.
 
Launch games never look that good.

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It's not fair game because the OP's post history does not in of itself change whether the impressions have merit (I also don't know what you mean by he 'drew attention to his post history'... I mean, he made a topic.

I think they were talking about in the write-up when OP said "People that recognize my username on this forum may realize that I've preferred the PS4 to the Xbox One for a long time now..."
 
I have a feeling the bad news is either

Less consoles shipped than originally thought

or

something silly like a play and charge kit wont be on sale on launch date but you can use the AA batteries included in the box
http://gamersyndrome.com/2013/video-games/sonys-ps4-said-have-the-edge-over-microsofts-xbox-one/
Looking at the flip side of the coin, Microsoft recently lowered its shipment forecast by about 12% due to assembly issues, which will no doubt effect the amount of consoles they’ll be able to sell at launch.
 
Is it easier to claim that the OP is biased and out to attack the Xbone rather than admit that he might be right?

If you're a fan of the Xbone (or indeed the PS4) and have it pre-ordered you do realise that you are not automatically guaranteed to love it?
 
I think they were talking about in the write-up when OP said "People that recognize my username on this forum may realize that I've preferred the PS4 to the Xbox One for a long time now..."

Ah yes, but to me that suggests he is being honest up front. Which should leave us primed to discuss the actual content of the post, right?

I dunno. I'm done with this discussion now, I feel we're about to go in circles, but it's just my thought. I hope we can all just give each other a bit more consideration, especially if it's someone who happens to disagree with us more forcefully :)
 
I think they were talking about in the write-up when OP said "People that recognize my username on this forum may realize that I've preferred the PS4 to the Xbox One for a long time now..."

Correct. But it's not fair to derail the conversation and make it about the OP, right? We should be sticking to discussing the merits (or the lack of it) of the statements the OP has made. It is an opinion thread after all.
 
I really don't see much value in highly detailed technical analysis of every single game on display, as these (most likely) weren't very recent builds. I intended to convey a general sense of my disappointment with Xbox One graphics (and the controller) rather than a technical breakdown. A sense that isn't diminished by small improvements that may happen up to release time (BF4, for example, was a mess: Aliasing everywhere, extreme pop-in of textures and shadows, I think tearing as well - I expect this to get better by launch, but the fact the game is running at almost the same resolution as current gen will remain as a huge blemish). Maybe I should have been more verbose in general, but I always fear that long OPs go generally unread. Better to directly face and answer the community!

In regards to gameplay, none of the games present really spoke to me, expect for Forza maybe (even BF was an infantry-only battle on a small map).

You really felt your post deserved more merit than everyone else's in the existing impressions thread? So much so that you needed your own to invite conversation? I don't think that's why you chose to create your own and I suspect you don't believe that either.

Either way, doesn't discount your take on the system. I'm consistently underwhelmed by all next-gen games I see. That Ryse trailer was the first time I liked what I was seeing but again, that's not me seeing in person with a controller in my hand. I'll wait till I'm standing 5 ft away and can better judge the game myself.

Forza direct feed looked pretty average. Dead Rising scope is impressive but I think the game looks pretty damn average visually as well. It's that new generation aura that doesn't stand up to scrutiny with both systems. And it's ridiculous that all these multiplatform titles on PC are requiring these absurd specs to hit that recommended clip.
I want to spend $400 on a new card but what's the point when a whole new wave unleashes next year and I'm stuck w/ a card that can't pull new-gen weight in 2 years.

Best to just buy a console and enjoy their games for a good year or two and then buy a new card and really enjoy that graphical fidelity after that.
 
I mean, it's not something that will be a huge deal for every single XBOX ONE owner unless you were looking forward to adding some extra items to your cart on launch, and not like the system won't have one in the box. Ok, not saying anymore. Sorry.


That sounds like you will not be able to buy an Xbox One controller, by itself, at launch? If true, then the fact you can use AA batteries would be a godsend since you would never have a dead controller.


That is somewhat hard to believe.
 
The most shocking thing of this entire thread is that Albert felt the need to come in here and "tighten up" someone's impressions.
 
I mean, it's not something that will be a huge deal for every single XBOX ONE owner unless you were looking forward to adding some extra items to your cart on launch, and not like the system won't have one in the box. Ok, not saying anymore. Sorry.

Does this mean I can't buy replacement Xbox One stickers? Goddamn.
 
The complaints are beginning to pile up about the controller. Lots of people saying the triggers are kinda strange, and the bumpers are not quite right. Very curious to see how this pans out at launch.

I haven't tried it yet but I did start getting worried about it. At first it looked great then I noticed how odd the triggers and bumpers look and then I started hearing poor reviews of it. Shame.
 
The most shocking thing of this entire thread is that Albert felt the need to come in here and "tighten up" someone's impressions.

Eh,,,I'm not sure that's fair.

Albert more r less explained WHY the games might not look impressive which I think is fair to explain.

I mean, as he did say...compare the recently released Ryse trailers with Gamescom builds and many will agree there's a noticeable improvement.
 
So basically then statham is the only person who can make xb1 threads?
Nah, I've seen Statham's post history too. Way too positive.

Only non-gaming strangers picked off the street at random should be able to start Xbone threads. Preferably ones who don't know what the internet is, just to be sure.

We'll be able to tell by the use of all-caps and lack of punctuation.

The new "insider" say it's something that involves the controller and will cost money for.
Premium DLC to unlock trigger rumble?
 
wow this guy really hate the xbox one, looking at his post history ,theres nothing he likes about microsoft, ps4 fanboy confirmed, move along nothing to see....
 
Nah, I've seen Statham's post history too. Way too positive.

Only non-gaming strangers picked off the street at random should be able to start Xbone threads. Preferably ones who don't know what the internet is, just to be sure.

We'll be able to tell by the use of all-caps and lack of punctuation.

'hi please help me what's an x-box? i heard about an x-box what is that. please help thanks, kelly. also can you get pregnant from kissing.'
 
wow this guy really hate the xbox one, looking at his post history ,theres nothing he likes about microsoft, ps4 fanboy confirmed, move along nothing to see....

Meh, you can say the same shit about me. But lately I've been all about the Xbone in some of my posts.
 
That sounds like you will not be able to buy an Xbox One controller, by itself, at launch? If true, then the fact you can use AA batteries would be a godsend since you would never have a dead controller.


That is somewhat hard to believe.

Well, it could be about the headset. And if every Xbox One wasn't planned to come with a headset originally now has one packed in, it could have lead to a shortage of those at retail.
 
He had already made up his mind even before he attended, that's if he actually even did attend.

Love how the thread is still open, Microsoft related threads are by far the least modded threads. Are there even mods who enter Microsoft threads? Sometimes I wonder.

Let's not start this please. A couple of people got banned already
 
'hi please help me what's an x-box? i heard about an x-box what is that. please help thanks, kelly. also can you get pregnant from kissing.'
perfection :)

Although Kelly might still be disqualified for bias if she enjoys TV or sports, or waving her arms. It's the only way to be sure.
 
You know what I'm thinking it is, you won't be able to buy some of the Xbox branded headsets like the Polk or Turtle beach ones at launch.
 
I'm thinking about going to this tonight in Chicago. I really wanna touch dat controller. *drool*

Interesting impressions.
 
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