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It's all good brother, at least you're hanging onto whatever bit of pride you have by playing it off like the cool guy here. I respect that, self-confidence is great too have.Well, at least you tried, Captain Edgy.
It's all good brother, at least you're hanging onto whatever bit of pride you have by playing it off like the cool guy here. I respect that, self-confidence is great too have.Well, at least you tried, Captain Edgy.
Free? It was a $10 off lolIf they're giving your game away for free in a sale, it's hardly a victory.
Free? It was a $10 off lol
Instead $30 it was sold at $20.
The developer seems pretty happy with the sales... if all sales were $20 * 500k * 88% = $8.8m.
Wut?But they didn't sell 500K units during the sale ( that's their overall sales). You're full of Fake News it seems. First that Epic propaganda you posted whilst banging on about 30% like that uninformed garbage has wings here (whose rebuttal you silently passed over), and now you're trying to make out that EGS dropping the ball and selling their game at way below the agreed price was somehow doing them a favour?
?Everything I posted is true I have no ideia what are you arguing lol
?Oh, you're one of those posters. You suffer from selective thread amnesia,
Let's try again shall we,
Yu Suzuki and DS scammed STEAM Shenmue 3 KS backers by giving them a different version of software.
No thanks, not gonna go through this song & dance again with people who dont have a single clue about how the pc market works. Third party retailers destroying steam.. lulz you are a funny guy You're all over this thread replying to everyone with an equivalent of "YOU KNOW NOTHING" and "I...www.neogaf.com
You added info to the post that did agree with what I said... why should I deny that?
You have no ideia what are you talking about.What you posted: -
That is pure propaganda by Epic. Nothing more, nothing less. it's not a 65% split. I outlined why.
explainThat's not the same thing.
This Epic "propaganda" happened in Dec 4, 2018... curious Valve changed its revenue share policies in Dec 3, 2018... coincidence
lolWTF does any of that have to do with the point in hand?
The whole point of a market is to succeed. Not everyone will. This idea that one should pour one out for those poor brave indie souls whose games don't set the world alight is all well and good, but for all the bravado, EGS has proven to be super picky about what indie games they're letting on their store.
You have no ideia what are you talking about.
This Epic "propaganda" happened in Dec 4, 2018... curious Valve changed its revenue share policies in Dec 3, 2018... coincidence?
Up to $10m you are cut 30%
$10m to $50m you are cut 25%
Over $50m you are cut 20%
Plus the 5% from the UE4 royalties....
Most Indies doesn't break $10m in sales (it needs over 500k units at $20 or over 333k units at $30) so that is clear move to help big publishers and not Indies.
The best case scenario for Stem is still a 25% cut vs 12% cut for a Unreal Engine titles but most cases in fall in the 35% vs 12% cut for Unreal Engine titles.
You are just showing like I said that Epic Game Store is way more beneficial to developers even without the famous moneyhat lol
What you call "propaganda" is reality.
]Epic Store is more beneficial to developers than Steam.
2007--We need Sony to recover when corporations compete consumers winThe core argument is flawed though. Has the competition between PS and Xbox destroyed console gaming through paying for exclusives? Nope, it's led to a ton more, higher quality AAA games. Honestly I'm dying for an Xbox VR kit to get announced so that sony ups their game on first party PSVR.
People call it anti-consumer, but literally every consumerism study will tell you that competition benefits consumers. You may not agree with how epic is going about this, but other services have tried the "build it and let them come" tactic and none have come close to steam even doing things like removing all DRM (GoG).
People often lambaste publishers for being shortsighted and driven by profit here and now, but at this point, Epic is doing something that could be of massive benefit in a few years time if they are successful.
From what I understand Unreal Engine royalties are based in the gross revenue prior to any deductions.You're missing the point with that chart is what he's saying. It's not a 65% split. It's Steam split 30%, then epic takes the 5%. So instead of a 65% split it comes to a 66.5% split. Sure it's not that huge of a difference but it's not what EPIC is claiming.
explain
It might be for someAsking someone to use a different launcher is not the same as using a different OS.
It's official from the creators of the Kickstarter.That screenshot is not from Kickstarter.
I don't smell it, because no one can claim false advertisement or "scam" against them. I know everyone here is a lawyer and very well versed in bird law, but no.I smell a class action.
They have to happen or they will get sued from EU customers. And Deep Silver or whoever will lose these lawsuitsShenmue 3 is a 1-year Epic exclusive, developer 'looking into' community feedback (updated)
"They're listening to what the Kickstarter community is saying and looking into it."www.pcgamer.com
Those refunds might happen
They have to happen or they will get sued from EU customers. And Deep Silver or whoever will lose these lawsuits
And that platform is PC and still is PC. Steam is just shop.
And yes it is 1st world problem when all it takes you to play game is to launch game via different launcher than steam.
I don't understand, so like, people can't install Epic Games Store? What's the deal? I'm not understanding any of this. Sorry, I'm just not a virgin anymore to understand the issue here.
Do you play games on PC?
Ah the old 'its just another launcher, i dont get it' posts. Guys do a bit of research into why people hate the Epic Store. Having to have another launcher is just one of many reasons, and one of the more trivial reasons.
But they didn't give them any notice, they just dropped it in the middle of a conference.
I had 5 dollars and spent 2.50 of it. How much do I have left?I didn't back shit; this isn't a topic about me.
The fact that you also didn't back shit, don;t see what the difference between a steam key and an egs key is, or why the people who did and want to call DS out for doing this are "throwing a tantrum" and "making a mountain out of a molehill" should have clued you in that its also not a topic about you.
The game doesn't drop for another 5 months. That's pretty timely as far as notices of change go
Do you play games on PC?
I understand where you're coming from, and yes, there is always a risk factor when it comes to KS; that's why I never pledge.Kickstarter isn't a pre-order service. I get the outrage to a degree, but I have no sympathy. Either understand the risks or stay off crowdfunding sites. You're not buying anything from them, you're donating.
k but they still gave 5 months noticeGTFO with that sort of horseshit. It's a Kickstarter. At the very least they're supposed to announce anything and everything through that, not drop a bombshell in the middle of an E3 presser of all things.
Also, learn to use the multi-quote feature. You don't get prizes here for post count, so don't double post. It's a bad look.
In this entire, pointless debate, I have yet to see a single person come forward with hard documentation from the Kickstarter campaign that explicitly stated that if you pledged enough money to receive a copy of the game, you would receive a Steam key or disc for the game. I cannot find a single thing that promises this at the point the pledges were being taken--the contract between you the investor and Yu's dev team / Deep Silver, that Steam copies were a guaranteed part of the deal to those that wanted it. The only thing the campaign ever promised was to deliver the game on PC.
Tell you what, I've got a real bargain for you. I'm going to give you three quality, delicious juicy burgers for only $1. One single buck.
Oh, it's not were you were expecting? You thought I was going to cook them for you, put them on buns with lettuce, tomato, onions, and pickles? Some condiments on the side?
When did I ever promise that to you? I promised to give you three thick, quality, delicious juicy burgers. Here they are. It's not my fault you made assumptions. No, I'm not giving you your money back. I delivered exactly what I promised when I took your dollar.
Oh, you want to sue me for not offering you a refund? You say I violated your rights as a consumer? I fail to see how any court is going to find in your favor. I delivered exactly what I promised to deliver for the price I agreed to deliver it. Your dissatisfaction entitles you to nothing.
This is the page that backers get where they can pick how they want their game delivered. You can also add a name you want to be seen on the game's website, change your address, you can even upgrade to a physical copy if you opted for digital prior. I chose a physical steam disk version oh, that is what was represented.
This is the page that backers get where they can pick how they want their game delivered. You can also add a name you want to be seen on the game's website, change your address, you can even upgrade to a physical copy if you opted for digital prior. I chose a physical steam disk version oh, that is what was represented.
Literally right over the dropdown it states that sysreqs are subject to change, and steam is included in their sysreqs one line above this.
Guess it's legal, dirty pool, but legal.Can I still change my delivery options or is it too late?This was never part of the Kickstarter campaign. This was a survey from Fangamer sent out after the campaign allowing backers to select options to receive the game. A survey that literally says "Game is currently in development so system requirements may change without notice. We thank you for your understanding."
System requirements changed from Steam Client to Epic Games Store. It was warned right there in black and white text. So Steam was never promised when your money was taken, and when you had the opportunity to choose your version of the game to receive you were explicitly warned nothing was set in stone.
30 years mate. I still remember times when Steam was garbage spyware you people are now proud off for some reason.
It didn't change much though. It is still crappy drm laucher that dissalows you to play games how you want.
Can you show your Steam/GoG/Origin/Uplay/EGS libraries?
But using your example of a donation, if you donated to a charity based on a certain promise of how to use the money, but then it was used for another cause; not everyone would accept that.