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unknownstranger · Nov 29, 2015

xaosslug said:
peeps doubting UC4 will top 1m @ launch will be in for a surprise... one of Playstation's biggest series on the 'it' console... smells like a recipe for disaster indeed.

We're doubting 1 million in the US. It'll easily sell at minimum 1.5 million globally in the first month.

Hidden One · Nov 29, 2015

Alebrije said:
Even Wiiu out of stock

travisbickle said:
Do these stores usually get about 60 consoles? Looks about that for each in the first pic, and rules out restocking if so.

Neuromancer said:
Holy crap! Legitimately laughing over here. November NPDs will be interesting.

Ricky_R said:
All I see there is that MS is a far better distribuiter.

Radec said:
Crazy if true.

I kinda doubt it really looks like that tho

viHuGi said:
Imagine WW numbers for this week should be well above 1 milion units.

Dash_Riprock said:

Ricky Ricardo said:
Kind of hard to believe this when its not shot from the same angle.

Just too easy to bend stuff this way.

Serenity said:
Thats just an ad on the back of the box.

Looks like the second pick is taken from the other angle. While I can't see any ps4s on the floor in the second pic they could easily be some out of view as the bundles on the outside would be taken first. Need more proof.

LegendofDragoonLives said:
No way this is real. I don't believe. NOPE. That's ridiculous...

serversurfer said:
So, the Tomb Raider bundle comes with Forza and Halo and people still won't buy it? =/

Sarobi said:
Before and afters?..

Kuro-Law said:
...
Is this a real before and after?

dukie85 said:
That's infuckingsane

Maintenance said:
See that PS3 there? That's the product they have for those who live in submarines.

Chobel said:
Before and After?

iceblade997 said:
Well what I mean is I don't think it'd have been enough to displace the Uncharted Bundle, but rather that I thought its availability (as well as the other items in the store) might've been enough to take off some of the heat from the Uncharted Bundle and make something else top seller, be that an Xbox One bundle of another variant, or some other unrelated item. After all if it was the only place (sans MS) you could get it I was hoping it might count for *something* but sadly it seems to have been ignored, as you've mentioned.

*whistles*. Flying off the shelves sounds like an understatment...

Guymelef said:
More XBO consoles to restock.

Rebel Leader said:
I really can't.

kadotsu said:
Thank God those Xboxes were there to prevent the PS4 stack from falling over.

orthodoxy1095 said:
If that's legit before and after, holy freaking moly.

Mikey Jr. said:
For every XB1 box, you can fit 2 PS4 boxes, which makes this even more of an achievement.

DriftingSpirit said:
Poof! They're gone!

The Artisan said:
damn, those are before and after photos you took?

One was taken on Thursday before the Store opened and the next was taken Friday night. We have quite a few Xbones still at the top stock and today the last of the Uncharted PS4s were put out.

NoMoChokeSJ · Nov 29, 2015

NPD will be interesting. I saw an interview on the news with the Target CEO on Black Friday and he specifically mentioned how well the Xbox was selling at Target.

Toki767 · Nov 29, 2015

NoMoChokeSJ said:
NPD will be interesting. I saw an interview on the news with the Target CEO on Black Friday and he specifically mentioned how well the Xbox was selling at Target.

They gave a $60 gift card with it. It better have sold well.

TC McQueen · Nov 29, 2015

Andy Believes said:
Well, what are the other Xbone and PS4 bundles in Best Buy that this bundle is competing against? Was this the cheapestpriced PS4 bundle at Best Buy?

IIRC, this was the cheapest PS4 bundle everywhere, barring special deals that I missed. Everything else was $350+ (before tax).

Serenity · Nov 29, 2015

I've noticed this gen Target aligns with Xbox for deals and Sony seems to favor Bestbuy. Sure the Sony bestbuy relationship is built on them also selling Bravias. Target doesn't seem to carry any sony TVs.

I would imagine Target gets more foot traffic than bestbuy though and is a better partner for events like black friday.

N.Domixis · Nov 29, 2015

NoMoChokeSJ said:
NPD will be interesting. I saw an interview on the news with the Target CEO on Black Friday and he specifically mentioned how well the Xbox was selling at Target.

buts isnt targets sales marketshare even smaller than best buys? They also had the best deal.

Erevador · Nov 29, 2015

Serenity said:
I've noticed this gen Target aligns with Xbox for deals and Sony seems to favor Bestbuy. Sure the Sony bestbuy relationship is built on them also selling Bravias. Target doesn't seem to carry any sony TVs.

I would imagine Target gets more foot traffic than bestbuy though and is a better partner for events like black friday.

Black Friday is INSANE at Best Buy. The lines at mine were much longer than at Target.

Deals on electronics really get people in. Didn't hurt that Best Buy had a lot of great deals on media this year.

TC McQueen · Nov 29, 2015

Serenity said:
I've noticed this gen Target aligns with Xbox for deals and Sony seems to favor Bestbuy. Sure the Sony bestbuy relationship is built on them also selling Bravias. Target doesn't seem to carry any sony TVs.

I would imagine Target gets more foot traffic than bestbuy though and is a better partner for events like black friday.

I'd say they get about the same. Best Buys are often in/near malls or shopping centers, so it's fairly easy to get to them. It's actually harder to find Targets in some parts (or all?) of the country.

For instance, I know there's like one Target in like a 10 mile radius from my house and one that's all the way across town close to my grandparents. Those might be the only two Targets in the Orlando area as far as I know.

RespectThySole · Nov 29, 2015

N.Domixis said:
buts isnt targets sales marketshare even smaller than best buys? They also had the best deal.

I believe Target's marketshare is larger. Both are dwarfed by Gamestop and Walmart though.

oSoLucky · Nov 29, 2015

I think George stated that Target is only 2-3% of the total.

Beautiful Ninja · Nov 29, 2015

oSoLucky said:
I think George stated that Target is only 2-3% of the total.

I think that was for Target.com, not Target as a whole.

oSoLucky · Nov 29, 2015

Beautiful Ninja said:
I think that was for Target.com, not Target as a whole.

Oh okay that makes more sense to me then.

Serenity · Nov 29, 2015

Erevador said:
Black Friday is INSANE at Best Buy. The lines at mine were much longer than at Target.

Deals on electronics really get people in. Didn't hurt that Best Buy had a lot of great deals on media this year.

TC McQueen said:
I'd say they get about the same. Best Buys are often in/near malls or shopping centers, so it's fairly easy to get to them. It's actually harder to find Targets in some parts (or all?) of the country.

For instance, I know there's like one Target in like a 10 mile radius from my house and one that's all the way across town close to my grandparents. Those might be the only two Targets in the Orlando area as far as I know.

I guess I just imagine the people who want just electronics are at bestbuy on BF but Target pulls in a wider range of shopper and there is more oppurtunity to get an implulse buy there from someone who might not of even been thinking about a console.

Was surprised though to hear from npd_george that targets market share for games was less than 10% I believe.

RespectThySole · Nov 29, 2015

Marketshare for video games in the US:

GameStop 30%
Walmart 25%
Target 15%
Best Buy 12%
Amazon 6%
Toys R Us 1%

Serenity said:
I guess I just imagine the people who want just electronics are at bestbuy on BF but Target pulls in a wider range of shopper and there is more oppurtunity to get an implulse buy there from someone who might not of even been thinking about a console.

Was surprised though to hear from npd_george that targets market share for games was less than 10% I believe.

That was Target.com not Target as a whole.

Primethius · Nov 29, 2015

On the topic of UC sales:

It should clear a million. Every successive UC game has increased by roughly atleast 200k sales in its opening month. I doubt UC has hit its peak potential so 900k seems pretty on lock and with it being on the dominant console, 1 mil seems like a bar it should clear.

And probably not the best idea using UC collection numbers to guage sales success.

N.Domixis · Nov 29, 2015

RespectThySole said:
GameStop 30%
Walmart 25%
Target 15%
Best Buy 12%
Amazon 6%
Toys R Us 1%

If this is true than so far ps4 may be ahead at best buy and amazon so 18%, xbox at target and TRS 16%. Walmart and Gamestop,unknown. Those two will decided BF.

Game4life · Nov 29, 2015

Primethius said:
On the topic of UC sales:

It should clear a million. Every successive UC game has increased by roughly atleast 200k sales in its opening month. I doubt UC has hit its peak potential so 900k seems pretty on lock and with it being on the dominant console, 1 mil seems like a bar it should clead.

And probably not the best idea using UC collection numbers to guage sales success.

UC4 will be the best selling exclusive next year easily.

Andy Believes · Nov 29, 2015

TC McQueen said:
IIRC, this was the cheapest PS4 bundle everywhere, barring special deals that I missed. Everything else was $350+ (before tax).

Thanks... I guess it always helps being the cheapest...

TheElgorin · Nov 29, 2015

Don't care much for Uncharted and I won't be buying U4, but that bundle was the cheapest so it was the most obvious choice.

KingV · Nov 29, 2015

FF Seraphim said:
That is crazy considering that Best Buy had a 49" tv on sale for $150....

Sometimes those door busters have really low stock though.

Pocky4Th3Win · Nov 29, 2015

As a manager for Best Buy, I know my entire store and warehouse is out of PS4 units. We still have stacks of Xbox and can't even give them away (get an Xbox One for free with Purchase of a Samsung TV).

SolarMystic · Nov 29, 2015

I'm gonna join the "I hope they both do amazing!" club.

I'll also wait for NPD, I can't even fathom a guess on the madness of black friday.

Loudninja · Nov 29, 2015

Survey on age groups on Black Friday.

To answer this question, InfoScout established a baseline group of 2,364 people who purchased video game products in October 2015. We then contrasted their purchases to those of 1,020 Americans who purchased a video game, console or accessory during the 2015 Black Friday promotion period (starting at 6PM on Thanksgiving, and running until the end of day Friday). Gamers in the baseline group of October buyers versus Black Friday buyers were segmented into Millennial (ages 18 – 35) and Middle Age (ages 36 – 55), to compare their dollar spend on Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo products.

Based on the evidence above, Sony PlayStation clearly “won” Black Friday 2015 among Millennials, stealing 7 percentage points of market share directly from the Microsoft Xbox. Millennials are notoriously fickle, and Sony clearly took advantage at Microsoft’s expense. By contrast, Middle Aged video game buyers’ preferences only changed slightly (away from Nintendo) during the Black Friday shopping spree, with Xbox capturing a slightly higher share of those gamers’ wallets than PlayStation.

http://blog.infoscout.co/millennial-video-game-sales/

Schrade · Nov 29, 2015

Loudninja said:
Survey on Age gropes on Balk Friday.

That's some quality typos...

Loudninja · Nov 29, 2015

Schrade said:
That's some quality typos...

Yeah seen all that haha.

B1gg_Randall · Nov 29, 2015

LockonStratos said:
One was taken on Thursday before the Store opened and the next was taken Friday night. We have quite a few Xbones still at the top stock and today the last of the Uncharted PS4s were put out.

Pocky4Th3Win said:
As a manager for Best Buy, I know my entire store and warehouse is out of PS4 units. We still have stacks of Xbox and can't even give them away (get an Xbox One for free with Purchase of a Samsung TV).

Yo damnnn

N.Domixis · Nov 29, 2015

Loudninja said:
Survey on age groups on Black Friday.

http://blog.infoscout.co/millennial-video-game-sales/

Looks like ps4 sold better to teens while xbox to adults?

unapersson · Nov 29, 2015

kadotsu said:
Thank God those Xboxes were there to prevent the PS4 stack from falling over.

Yeah well, you can see how narrow those PS4 boxes are. The Xboxes are needed to provide some much needed stability.

Pocky4Th3Win · Nov 29, 2015

B1gg_Randall said:
Yo damnnn

Yup

Radec · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Yup

Figures. I know 9 of my 10 friends bought an Xbone digitally.

Blackleg-sanji1 · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Yup

It was like that in the best buy i went to in Philadelphia. Stacks of xbox consoles,controllers,brand new games etc. Ps4? GONE! Games? Only pre owned ones left.

boredandlazy · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Yup

Looks like sales fell of a cliff once there was 3 PS4's left...

I-hate-u · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Yup

^$449 for the TR bundle? Is this right? It's the first time I see this. Rip that game, who would ever buy that SKU?

AgentP · Nov 29, 2015

N.Domixis said:
Looks like ps4 sold better to teens while xbox to adults?

18-35 is teens?

Toki767 · Nov 29, 2015

I-hate-u said:
^$449 for the TR bundle? Is this right? It's the first time I see this. Rip that game, who would ever buy that SKU?

That's the Halo bundle. TR bundle is $349.

But yeah, even at that price, it's just not moving at all.

Abdiel · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Yup

Wow. What part of the country is your store in?

My store and most of our district didn't get that aggressively cleaned out quite yet... Some are sold out of one or the other system, but the district as a whole is still prepped for Sunday.

Looks like your store is sitting on a ton of those stupid Tomb Raider bundles too, huh? They're basically dead weight to our district.

Pocky4Th3Win · Nov 29, 2015

I-hate-u said:
^$449 for the TR bundle? Is this right? It's the first time I see this. Rip that game, who would ever buy that SKU?

Nope, That sign was for the Halo Bundle. TR Sign is facing away for $349. BTW We still got a few Limited Edition CE Halo 5 thing (giant ass box).

Abdiel said:
Wow. What part of the country is your store in?

My store and most of our district didn't get that aggressively cleaned out quite yet... Some are sold out of one or the other system, but the district as a whole is still prepped for Sunday.

Looks like your store is sitting on a ton of those stupid Tomb Raider bundles too, huh? They're basically dead weight to our district.

T32 (Mid West)

I-hate-u · Nov 29, 2015

Toki767 said:
That's the Halo bundle. TR bundle is $349.

But yeah, even at that price, it's just not moving at all.

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Nope, That sign was for the Halo Bundle. TR Sign is facing away for $349. BTW We still got a few Limited Edition CE Halo 5 thing (giant ass box).

Just realized the price tag is facing the other way.

Why did MS put out so many SKUs anyway? Can't believe anyone not going for the $299 bundle.

TheSpecialOne · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Yup

Wow, just wow.

B1gg_Randall · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Yup

Wow! Is that a Halo,Tomb Raider and Forza bundle or just the pictures on the box?

N.Domixis · Nov 29, 2015

AgentP said:
18-35 is teens?

18: teen
25: middle age teen
35: old teen
40+ : adult

lol

Abdiel · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Nope, That sign was for the Halo Bundle. TR Sign is facing away for $349. BTW We still got a few Limited Edition CE Halo 5 thing (giant ass box).

T32 (Mid West)

The only bundles with any real sales momentum for us were the ones priced at $299. The higher ones are just not doing it for people. For both systems, PS4 and XB1, that is.

Thanks for the clarification. Hope it wasn't too miserable. Did your stores open at 6pm on Thursday too?

Neuromancer · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
As a manager for Best Buy, I know my entire store and warehouse is out of PS4 units. We still have stacks of Xbox and can't even give them away (get an Xbox One for free with Purchase of a Samsung TV).

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Yup

Excuse me while I whip this out

Pocky4Th3Win · Nov 29, 2015

B1gg_Randall said:
Wow! Is that a Halo,Tomb Raider and Forza bundle or just the pictures on the box?

Just the picture updated to show new games. We do have a Kinect Bundle console still if you are looking for the innovative and future of motion gaming.

Abdiel said:
The only bundles with any real sales momentum for us were the ones priced at $299. The higher ones are just not doing it for people.

Thanks for the clarification. Hope it wasn't too miserable. Did your stores open at 6pm on Thursday too?

5pm, was there till 3am with customers.

Memento · Nov 29, 2015

unknownstranger said:
We're doubting 1 million in the US. It'll easily sell at minimum 1.5 million globally in the first month.

I think it has a great chance of opening at 1 million in the US.

People sometimes forget how big the Uncharted IP is. Uncharted 3 is supposedly at ~10 million. It is Sony's biggest IP, outside of Gran Turismo of course.

LegendofDragoonLives · Nov 29, 2015

unknownstranger said:
We're doubting 1 million in the US. It'll easily sell at minimum 1.5 million globally in the first month.

hahahahahah yeah, you're really going on a massive limb that U4 will sell 1.5m copies globally. The series isn't regressing that much in one mainline title, it's not Halo.

U4 is going to drop 4 million on its first month incredibly easily, though I suspect it'll be noticeably more than that.

Abdiel · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Just the picture updated to show new games. We do have a Kinect Bundle console still if you are looking for the innovative and future of motion gaming.

5pm, was there till 3am with customers.

Ugh. My thanksgiving dinner was mac n cheese before I headed in to prep my section. Hope things weren't too miserable.

Pocky4Th3Win · Nov 29, 2015

Abdiel said:
Ugh. My thanksgiving dinner was mac n cheese before I headed in to prep my section. Hope things weren't too miserable.

Nah was fine, I had an early dinner with family and we treated all the reps to paid lunch.

B1gg_Randall · Nov 29, 2015

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Just the picture updated to show new games. We do have a Kinect Bundle console still if you are looking for the innovative and future of motion gaming.

5pm, was there till 3am with customers.

Alright. I thought I saw one of the best bundle ever. lmao

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