I am not sure, the Amiga still blew away most competition, I was not much of a Windows/PC gamer back then. But if we restrict it to DOS/Win3.1 sure, then you are probably right.
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PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users
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I am not sure, the Amiga still blew away most competition, I was not much of a Windows/PC gamer back then. But if we restrict it to DOS/Win3.1 sure, then you are probably right.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Now you make me miss the Amiga. Need to get back into he emulation scene again, lol.
Yeah, meant mainly Win/PC.
Aeroglyphics
Member
Best ventilated console for sure. Ohh, I kid I kid.
Was no-one else impressed with 360 stuff when it was revealed? I always thought it was real good.
Yeah you're right, I apologize.
And I completely agree with your second point.
Absolutely, I was impressed with 360, I was impressed with PS4 as well.
But I never ever compared or thought a console was gonna be more powerful or even in same realm as a PC.
The Artisan
Member
I wasn't incorrect about what I said. Those hardware advantages, however minuscule or negligible they may be, do exist. I was just told than in application, judging from the dichotomy of Ps4 and xbone games, that they don't matter in practice.
True, however to me, maybe because I haven't paid much attention but it's unclear to me what the full potential of dx12 and the cloud are on the xbone.
this reminds me -- I remember hearing lots of complaints about the Ps4 having a "jet engine fan" loudness to it, but I never really had that issue between the two Ps4s I owned. It was like the Ps3, I guess. The fan didn't really bother me.
iIguess I don't either, I was just more impressed by the 360 than the ps4.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I don't think LBP is dead yet, but Media Molecule won't be making it any more. Let's hope Sumo Digital steps up their game.
Nintendo Gamecube, Wii U???
So yeah, I was bored.
That font rapes my eyes.
I get what he was going for...but it's still an affront to the eyes.
Welfare
Member
So yeah, I was bored.
Good god the "S".
Playstation 4 has terrible font. How does it sell so well?
/s
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
VERY stupid argument! Last gen , the PS3's price was too high. Now, the systems "aren't powerful, relative to last gen" (even though the best of this gen, literally, smokes the best of last gen and we haven't even scratched the surface).
People will always find something to bitch about, though. Annoying, but that's the nature of the beast!
I don't exactly agree. Minds were definitely blown when Mark Cerny revealed 8GB GDDR5 RAM for the PS4.
Starts around here in the live thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514454&page=83
Announcement thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514465
Just wait.
Boombloxer
Member
The real world application not mattering means that's it's an advantage that only exists on paper. Like looking at height only and picking the tallest player for your team instead of Stephen Curry.
So no, it's pretty cut and dry.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh man, this reactions, lol.
DISSESHOWEDO
Banned
The "this won't be cheap" comments add too!
KurtSloane
Banned
Exact same stuff going on now with the psvr price.
ethomaz
Banned
So we have no numbers.
17.7m minimum looks low after holiday.
My estimate was around 15m last quarter... that add 2.7m in Q2... too low.
More probably around 19-20m.
The Artisan
Member
Sumo fucked LBP3 though. Instead of making the game the 3D leap it should've taken, they added new characters who replaced some of Sackboy's powers that for me personally as someone who loved LBP2, did not make it more enjoyable. The new system for navigating Craftworld was unappealing to me too. The game did not feel like a significant step up like LBP2 did with the original game.
If they're gonna continue the series, honestly I feel like MM's the only dev that can do it justice. I can't think of any other dev Sony can tap that could.
I am.
that's all I'm really getting at here. 1.75 GHz > 1.6 GHz, and 853MHz > 800MHz. That should be cut and dry, too. I didn't disagree that the Ps4 overall and obviously has more raw power and hardware advantages, but there are some that are still there on xbone.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Well it should die then because MM is probably done with it as the primary developer. I doubt Sony would force them to make another one.
You can only compare clock speeds (and claim an advantage) if the two components in question are identical otherwise. This is not the case with respect to the GPUs.
pixelation
Member
So has the PS4 doubled the XBO's installed base worldwide already?
joecanada
Member
I somewhat agree I would buy a 600 ps4 but the market spoke, it's not happening so enjoy saving money and get a spare controller. It's not so bad also the pc architecture was smart
John Wick
Member
Wii was £180 launch console. PS4 launched at £350. That's nearly twice the price for entry.
AstroNut325
Member
If X1 is at less than 18 million sold worldwide, yes.
Bear Force One
Banned
It says a lot about how the market values the PS4 and is willing to shell out cash for it. Consensus says it's a great kit.
The Artisan
Member
Fuck.
I thought clock speeds were used to determine CPU performance?
Hasn't it basically been 1.9 to 1 since launch anyway?
pixelation
Member
Yeah... dang MS and their "no numbers" thing.
slavesnyder
Member
Still don't know what GDDR5 is, but it was phantastic to see everyone around going bananas.
(Like taking my kid to the stadium and there was the winning goal in overtime.)
Yeah, I agree -- especially if its hits 1.5 Million this upcoming NPD.
Papacheeks
Banned
GDDR5 is the same kind of super fast high clocked ram found in modern highend video cards.
The fact they have 8gb of it when we just got 8gb cards this year from AMD. There wasn't anything close to that in 2013, and NVDIA's flagship 900 series was only around 4gb when it launched in 2014.
So they have been ahead of the game for a while at least for a console.
So yeah, I was bored.
I can't read that shit.
Fine, fine.Xbox font it is then.
Better.
slavesnyder
Member
thank you, that's awfully nice of you.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
So yeah, I was bored.
ugh, that font is not built for bingo.
They shipped 3.9M in 2013.
They said "10M soon" in mid-november so let's say they were at 11M when the year ended. That'd be 7.1M in 2014.
You expect them to have shipped 8-9M in 2015? Considering they sold 4.3M in the US, their largest market by far, that seems extremely unlikely.
slavesnyder
Member
It gets even better a few pages further when they show the first official PS4 gameplay footage...
It was Knack!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah, hahaha.
Well that's for a multitude of reasons. Programmable shaders were actually just getting into being used, shaders didn't exist much at all in the generation previous outside of PC and OG Xbox, and those games were also not so prevalent. Neither did motion blur or many other things that we now take for granted.
The graphical rendering space was going through all sorts of changes that wasn't all down to the console's power.
A lot of that is the reason why PS3 or 360 to PS4 is a smaller jump visually. What we're seeing now is only a refinement of the graphical rendering techniques already being used, there is no real 'great beyond' at this time.
Throw in diminishing returns as well as the fact that the industry is more risk averse at the time when it comes to gameplay innovation, and its no wonder why you feel like that.
Also you were probably much younger at the time, and were much more able to be impressed. PC's and such things are far more easily obtained than ever.
Its just a completely different era for both the consumer and the industry at large from all perspectives.
serversurfer
Member
If we're figuring ~17.5M sold through, I could see MS having another ~2M in the channel coming out of the holiday quarter. Over-shipping has always been a holiday tradition for XBox.
anothertech
Member
Ftfy lol
Seriously though. A bit mind blowing how far it's blowing past the competition. I think there are lessons to be learned here. How much difference that first impression can make, I mean, I still hear people talking about the original Xbone plans as if they are still in effect, when they actually changed it all years ago now. Dam.
Gratz Sony, very well played this Gen.
Fine, fine.Xbox font it is then.
Now that i can read it properly:
@LOL at the NACL slot