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PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users

viHuGi

Banned
still revelant these days

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Wait ps2 shipped 50m until 2002?
 
Actually he was right. It is now the next decade. Amir0x is a prophet!

lol ok i take some of that back

i think his post and the "square just shot themselves in the foot" meltdown have to be 1 and 2 for most notorious posts on these boards, considering how they're brought up every once in a while.
 

Maxximo

Member
Yeah, I think SonyGAF is more like very small portion of GAF, just like XboxGAF, you know those hardheaded fanboys who struggle to hide their obvious bias. It's just that PS4 is preferred console this gen, so obviously that "SonyGAF" is bigger and thus louder. There is always portion of people who need to validate their purchase by means of consolewarz, like we saw in that horrible thread with doom and gloom for PS4.

I think so too. Unfortunately they are also really loud and obnoxious.

Anyway really great result for Sony and finally 2016 seems to be shaping up as an amazing year for games too.
 

Toxa

Junior Member
Yet it doesn't hinder people to go "lol sonygaf" when we'd basically given up on them as a community. Sure, most of us weren't so drastic but to claim that the board is Sony biased is a bit over the top. We tend to like the most popular platform every generation.

well ps3 was always the most popular platform to me , blu-ray, exclusive games, ...
 
lol ok i take some of that back

i think his post and the "square just shot themselves in the foot" meltdown have to be 1 and 2 for most notorious posts on these boards, considering how they're brought up every once in a while.
I didn't know that was him as well, but yeah sounds more emotional than anything. Sometimes GAF gets the best of ya if you come here too much.
 
Wait wait wait...PS4 sold more in 2015 than Xbox One LTD? What the fuck? Jesus I didn't know it was that bad. I mean I knew it was bad but...damn.

Like...when put into context like that...my mind is blown a bit.


Don't read too much into it.

...

I'd like to see a breakdown of regions like the one posted above.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
Media Molecule's making a full set of levels for Dreams (and effectively a large library of high quality pre-made assets to remix), just as they did for LittleBigPlanet and community test levels may be available when the game launches too.

They tend to trim the fat a little when they do though, although we can't really see that as a bad thing. Your point still stands though.
 

StuffRuff

Member
Great news for Sony. Its completely healthy for the industry to have this type of domination struggle generation to generation. Forces the other manufacturers to up their game and push themselves or to GTFO.
 
Great news for Sony. Its completely healthy for the industry to have this type of domination struggle generation to generation. Forces the other manufacturers to up their game and push themselves or to GTFO.

Yep and I hope Xbox has learned something from these numbers and we get a better version next gen. Same goes for Nintendo NX. Competition prevents 599.99/Giant enemy crab/get a 2nd job kind of arrogance.
 
Yep and I hope Xbox has learned something from these numbers and we get a better version next gen. Same goes for Nintendo NX. Competition prevents 599.99/Giant enemy crab/get a 2nd job kind of arrogance.
I'm still amazed how MS dropped the ball on start of this gen. How on earth they were able to make so much weaker console and were almost taken by surprise how ready Sony was with PS4. Relative success of Kinect and aim to be more than just gaming console really blinded them. I would have loved to be fly on the wall when they planned vision for Xbox One. There must have been lots of "fighting" over how important actual gaming is for this new console. Must be bittersweet victory for those who wanted powerful gaming console first and media player second.

Fully justified sales for PS4, cheers.
 

Heimbeck

Banned
Because you're prescribing to the childish and laughably naive notion that every single one of those 20 million (when it's in fact 17-18 but let's run with it) are going to translate into game sales.

To put it in words, here's what you're saying:

Heimbeck: Kingdom Hearts 2.8HD shouldn't have skipped Xbone because there are 20 milion owners and every single one of them would've bought it! 20 million is a huge number! I can't believe Square-Enix would throw away 20 million units of sale!

When the reality is, the audience for those type of games aren't substantial. It doesn't matter if the Xbone sells 30 million units, the number of people who'd buy those games won't even reach 500k.

But I'm done with this silly argument. You go ahead and believe what you will.

No that's not at all what I'm saying, I said a big audience because the more people on a console there is obviously a higher potential for those people to pick up a game never that every one on the console would buy that game.

And you're right, this is a pointless argument if all you're going to do is shove words in my mouth.
 

FATALITY

Banned
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Lol sorry i had to

lol gaf is so predicable. i was about to ask to someone put a cage on his head than i thought nah someone already thought that lol
 
I'm still amazed how MS dropped the ball on start of this gen. How on earth they were able to make so much weaker console and were almost taken by surprise how ready Sony was with PS4. Relative success of Kinect and aim to be more than just gaming console really blinded them. I would have loved to be fly on the wall when they planned vision for Xbox One. There must have been lots of "fighting" over how important actual gaming is for this new console. Must be bittersweet victory for those who wanted powerful gaming console first and media player second.

Fully justified sales for PS4, cheers.

I feel the same way. It was PR gaf after PR gaf. Its a shame because I was fully prepared to jump ship if they released a superior product. I was one of the idiots who ran out and bought a 599.99 PS3 and was disappointed with it for the first 4 years of its life-I was pretty burned by Sony last gen and didn't want to make the same mistake twice.

Color me surprised Sony was the one to get it right. Its amazing how both consoles have flip flopped positions. The third console curse is real.
 
I feel the same way. It was PR gaf after PR gaf. Its a shame because I was fully prepared to jump ship if they released a superior product. I was one of the idiots who ran out and bought a 599.99 PS3 and was disappointed with it for the first 4 years of its life-I was pretty burned by Sony last gen and didn't want to make the same mistake twice.

Color me surprised Sony was the one to get it right. Its amazing how both consoles have flip flopped positions. The third console curse is real.

Flip flopped positions?
 

Yopis

Member
Yeah, I think SonyGAF is more like very small portion of GAF, just like XboxGAF, you know those hardheaded fanboys who struggle to hide their obvious bias. It's just that PS4 is preferred console this gen, so obviously that "SonyGAF" is bigger and thus louder. There is always portion of people who need to validate their purchase by means of consolewarz, like we saw in that horrible thread with doom and gloom for PS4.



You can apply this to anything really on this forum in my opinion. People make threads all the time where if they don't like a particular game.They try to gather as many other like-minded people, to validate their opinion really weird.
 
Wait, when did that happen? Last time I checked it was 20 million.

Those new numbers are huge!

I wonder if it'll reach 100 million until 2018.
 

Melchiah

Member
Yet it doesn't hinder people to go "lol sonygaf" when we'd basically given up on them as a community. Sure, most of us weren't so drastic but to claim that the board is Sony biased is a bit over the top. We tend to like the most popular platform every generation.

The prediction thread from a couple of years ago alone should debunk the idea of the forum being aligned with Sony.
 

Shahed

Member
still revelant these days

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That Amirox post isn't that wrong. The age of that Sony is done, and won't come back. Amirox was.just overly hyperbolic and and dramatic about it. Sony dominated so strongly and were such a force in the industry that PS2 got all the games, it had all the focus and a lot of the games were exclusive by default. Sony had everything.

Sure they are dominating now, but not like they did then. The age of Sony is done. You could call it a new Sony age or more accurately the Age of the Multiplatform. The PC marketplace has evolved and become not only a force that cannot be ignored in the demographic of Sony's key genres, but also leads the way in other ways to play and genres that just don't work as well on consoles. Mobile has taken the eye of a large majority of the casual audience who would have bought random games and publishers and developers have their resources diverted to that market segment, resources that would have typically went to PS2 wnd maybe other consoles. Even with the console space things aren't the same. Bar certain exclusives that are there by default (Japanese games due to audience mismatch and indue games due to clauses), all game are multiplatform by and large. You don't need a PS4 the same way you needed a PS2.

Sony well and truly dominate at the moment, but nothing like they used to. The age of the PS1-2 Sony is done and gone forever.
 
That Amirox post isn't that wrong. The age of that Sony is done, and won't come back. Sony dominated so strongly and were such a force in the industry that PS2 got all the games, it had all the focus and a lot of the games were exclusive by default. Sony had everything.

Sure they are dominating now, but not like they did then. The age of Sony is done. You could call it.a new Sony age or more accurately the Age of the Multiplatform. The PC marketplace has evolved and become not only a force that cannot be ignored.innthe demographic of Sony's key genres, but also leads the way in other ways to play and genres that just don't owrk as well on consoles. Mobile has taken the eye of a large majority of the casual audience who would have bought random games and publishers and developers have their resources diverted to that market segment, resources that would have typically went to PS2 wnd maybe other consoles. Even with the console space things aren't the same. Bar certain exclusives that are there by default (Japanese games due to audience mismatch and indue games due to clauses), all game are multiplatform by and large. You don't need a PS4 the same way you needed a PS2.

Sony well and truly dominate at the moment, but nothing like they used to. The age of the PS1-2 Sony is done and gone forever.

Nice narrative, sadly doesn't work because at the time of the PS1 and PS2 were there also handhelds like the GameBoy, GameBoy Advance and NDS (and in many places a very strong PC scene like in Europe). But I guess that doesn't count unlike mobile and Steam.
 

Shahed

Member
Nice narrative, sadly doesn't work because at the time of the PS1 and PS2 were there also handhelds like the GameBoy, GameBoy Advance and NDS (and in many places a very strong PC scene like in Europe). But I guess that doesn't count unlike mobile and Steam.
Handhelds also exist now, and I'd argue that despite selling less nowadays, no handheld back then dominated a key market like Japan the way DS, PSP and then 3DS have done recently. Sure they get a lot of games and were incredibly succesful, but consoles still garnered a lot of the attention in a way that they just don't do anymore in Japan.

And I'm not saying PC didn't exist. Of course it did. But Steam did advance the market greatly, providing ease of use and simplified it in ways that PC games is less tech orientated and more plug and play than ever. And you can't just dismiss mobile which never really existed back then. There's more market segments in gaming than ever before and while consoles are still successful, they've got so much more competition for attention and resource allocation. It's why I say that while I wouldn't want Microsoft and Xbox to exit the console space, they wouldn't be needed to provide competition or a deterrent to Sony because other markets like Nintendo, PC and Mobile will be enough to do that
 
36million sold units today aren't less relevant than 36million units in the 90's or 00's.

The premise of that line of thinking is just crazy. And you can even argue that PC gaming is still far away of being that technolgy leading paltform like it was in the 90's with games pushing the limits.
 

Shahed

Member
36million sold units today aren't less relevant than 36million units in the 90's or 00's.

The premise of that line of thinking is just crazy. And you can even argue that PC gaming is still far away of being that technolgy leading paltform like it was in the 90's with games pushing the limits.
I'm not saying that PC isn't technology leading anymore. I'm saying it's less tech orientated, as in there's a lower barrier of entry now for people who don't understand technology as well because Steam and other things have simplified the entire process. Less capable people people can now play on PC's where they may have found it a bit too complicated earlier.

And I'm also not saying that 36m is less relevant. In fact I didn't talk numbers at all. I acknowledged Sony are dominant now, just saying that they aren't as dominant as they were a few generations ago. The mindshare behind Sony and Playstation was huge and a force that could not be ignored. While it's still big now, there are more avenues that exist within the gaming industry than ever before which can take attention away from them. That's all I'm saying. The brand of Sony and the Playstation of PS1-2 era is gone and even if they continue to do well, they won't reach those heights anymore
 

stryke

Member
I wonder why no one likes doing graphs anymore. I don't keep a record myself so I made a small amendment to Zhuge's shipments graph, so do note it's not a good comparison since it's only sell-in.

New data point for PS4 is sell through at 36.9 million
New data point for XB1 is minimum shipment of 17.7 million.

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wapplew

Member
I wonder why no one likes doing graphs anymore. I don't keep a record myself so I made a small amendment to Zhuge's shipments graph, so do note it's not a good comparison since it's only sell-in.

New data point for PS4 is sell through at 36.9 million
New data point for XB1 is minimum shipment of 17.7 million.

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Wii was a beast.
 
Congrats Sony! My backlog on Ps4 is only going to get bigger in 2016.

I don't understand the slim model requests. The Ps4 has a few issues with cooling as it is and you want it smaller??
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
By that criteria you should not include Splatoon on the list either.

I don't wanna start this, but you should keep in mind that, the last Splatoon update is from September, and since that, it sold A LOT.

Is easy over 4 million, Nintendo will annunce this soon i can assure you, and BloodBorne will never sell that much... Also 4m just this year. This game has insane legs, that's a important fact for it's succes.

Don't get me wrong. BloodBorne is a succes. 2m is good, and I can see ~3m LT, which is awesome for a similar Souls game...

But Splatoon succes is way bigger than BloodBorne. I don't know if you guys know, but Splatoon has almost for sure outsold Halo 5...
 
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