PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
The stupidity in the map post, not the map, is why Trump got elected.
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Trump to widow of dead Sargent: 'He knew what he signed up for'
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I can't necessarily fault his tacit honesty here. Of course this is all that military personnel are to someone like Trump: readily expendable assets he'll happily expend for the sake of never having to do any work or actual deal-making that diplomacy requires. He doesn't know the first thing about doing ANYTHING of value on his own, but he'll happily throw others at it until something works, regardless of the collateral damage.
obijkenobi
Member
God damn. The video of the widow crying over the casket is so fucking heart breaking.
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
The khans said it best last year with Trump "sacrificed nothing" remark
ClayKavalier
Banned
You can fault people for explainable behaviors.
I get what you're saying though, and while I was as unsurprised as anyone that the sergeant was black, I doubt he'd have had anything more appropriate to say at a white dude's funeral. He used his own father's funeral as an opportunity to promote a building project, though I do buy that it could have been a sincere tribute. The only family are garbage people.
obijkenobi
Member
Eh. He was a complete douche to McCain. He has no empathy for anyone
Hell, no president in the history of ever
Trump supporters are probably angry at this widow for her getting mad at the President for "just telling it like it is."
The fact that Trump supporters never think he does anything wrong, and that it MUST be the mistake of other people is astounding. Even if he got all Harvey Weinstein'ed at this point, they'd probably blame it on the women somehow, and Trump was just a victim.
The fact that Trump supporters never think he does anything wrong, and that it MUST be the mistake of other people is astounding. Even if he got all Harvey Weinstein'ed at this point, they'd probably blame it on the women somehow, and Trump was just a victim.
While this might be a giving him a bit too much credit, and it should be noted that I hate trump as much as the next gaffer, I think this is mainly an error of word choice more than anything else. (not that it would diminish anything...)
When I read that statement, what I thought he was saying was "Every soldier enters with the expectation that they may not make it out of service alive, but even when we are prepared it hurts all the same when they die." Which... isn't untrue nor is it a bad statement.
The problem is that Trump is a nitwit with the worst and most disrespectful word-choice in the history of presidents. The statement doesn't read as malicious when compared to other statements he's made like the ones to the gold star parents or to John Mccain.
Mind you, i fully understand that he does not deserve benifit of the doubt considering... well.... its fucking Trump: The pathetic president. But... idk... I just can't seem to get as mad about this one...
idk...
When I read that statement, what I thought he was saying was "Every soldier enters with the expectation that they may not make it out of service alive, but even when we are prepared it hurts all the same when they die." Which... isn't untrue nor is it a bad statement.
The problem is that Trump is a nitwit with the worst and most disrespectful word-choice in the history of presidents. The statement doesn't read as malicious when compared to other statements he's made like the ones to the gold star parents or to John Mccain.
Mind you, i fully understand that he does not deserve benifit of the doubt considering... well.... its fucking Trump: The pathetic president. But... idk... I just can't seem to get as mad about this one...
idk...
I mean, even if you give him the benefit of the doubt, hes the least erudite president in history. W. Bush must celebrate every time this fantafuck opens his noisehole.
obijkenobi
Member
Uh, he didn't sign up to die. Only a low empathy dumb ass would tell a widower anything like that.
Oh absolutely. That's actually kinda my point actually
My point is that what was likely meant was "he signed up with the knowledge he might die" not "he signed up to die".
I know full well that Soldier don't sign up to die, and I also point out that if Trump meant the former, he needs to stop talking like a 5th grader and learn to english better.
Yea, people know that there is a chance when they sign up but that is irrelevant and insensitive to say to a widow who's husband just fucking died.
Mark Andrew
Member
Hes said this before about those killed in the line of duty. In his mind, its probably a compliment.
Eloquence can be everything, and his lack of it speaks volumes to how much he cared to comfort that woman.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
As soon as I saw the picture of the family it all became clear.
If this is what happens when he calls, I prefer Presidents that dont call.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Ya'll stay giving this whole ass bitch the benefit of doubt on everything. Christ.
You beautiful bastard lol
whyamihere
Banned
oh my god
Good for you giving the benefit of a doubt to a fuckwad.
It's like with news dying down about the kneeling, he's replacing it with actual disrespect.
Its too soon to just say he might have a touch of racism in his heart. Give him time.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Man it's tough to watch her crying over that casket. Can't imagine being at attention during that scene.
uhmmm... I don't give this guy the benifit of the doubt... basically ever... Not on his campaign, nor in his presidency.
Rather I look at that statement, and how people reacted to it and I saw, for once, a weird disparity. Basically this poster's response to my statement is exactly my conclusion in all this.
This isn't an issue of meaning, its an issue of a lack of professionalism and effort which shows disrespect for a fallen soldier and their widow.
I don't think this is something Trump should get away scott free on this or anything, rather its just a different problem than what people in this thread seem to assume... i guess is what i'm saying...
Say what you really mean.
LegendofJoe
Member
This is probably spot on.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
The Art of the Deal(ing with the Family of Dead Soldiers).
Chapter One: He Was Bleeding from His...Whatever...
Chapter One: He Was Bleeding from His...Whatever...
Lack of care, or just he's inarticulate in that way?
obijkenobi
Member
I mean you are also just looking at the words. Which were completely shitty. There is a larger context. He literally had days to come up with something better.
And the only reason he called her was bc he got called out by the media. And hw tried to get out of it by throwing Obama and Bush and under the bus. And everyone shat on him for that.
So he reluctantly calls a widow and delivers those comments? Fuck that.
He has access to an entire godamn commu ications team and elected officials that could have given him this dudes life story.
Its with a heavy heart I call...nation and I give its gratidude....*childrens name here* had an amazing and brave father....the nation mourns your loss...
There. Done.
Karsticles
Member
It's telling that the two Gold Star families Trump has been an asshole to are non-white.
McCain has said so much shit about Trump. Trump has gone easy on him. He only started in on McCain because he lost to Obama.
whyamihere
Banned
ugh. This entire thing is so fucked up.
Souldriver
Member
Every day we are kindly reminded by Trump himself that he is a disgusting vile piece of shit.
Calling Trump a horrible person is not an insult or opinion, it's a goddamn fact.
Dis gus ting
Calling Trump a horrible person is not an insult or opinion, it's a goddamn fact.
Dis gus ting
BoogieWoogie
Banned
Jesus CHRIST it just gets worse.
I hope hell exists just for Trump to burn there.