Winterblink
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They had nowhere to go but up from that initial design.
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Star Trek Discovery: SDCC 2017 Trailer
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I think people thought this because there's this stupid idea that CBS is sending this out to die because it's going to be on All Access. It's not being sent out to die, it's being sent out to get people to subscribe to All Access, so they are going to go all in to get people to sub. I don't know if it's work, I kind of don't think it will, but yeah, CBS was always going to put a lot into this.
Huw_Dawson
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Absolutely impossible to figure out what is going on in that trailer. Hyped regardless. This looks like gritty Trek.
Trek desperately needs to get away from forehead aliens. This is a good start.
I still can't believe that Trek had to explain why every race they encountered looked similar...
Trek desperately needs to get away from forehead aliens. This is a good start.
I still can't believe that Trek had to explain why every race they encountered looked similar...
Agreed in full! This was always one of the things that have bothered me about the franchise. It made sense in the 80s and 90s on the low budgets they had to work with but I am glad the new series is finally evolving the franchise. No matter what a lot of people will be unhappy but I couldn't be more excited.
And here I recently saw the time travel episode in DS9 where they go to the Tribble episode of original Star Trek and Worf got uncomfortable seeing the first Klingons (and the VERY low budget costumes) and explained some genetic mutation thingie.
Does this happen often with Klingons now?
Does this happen often with Klingons now?
Trek desperately needs to get away from forehead aliens. This is a good start.
I still can't believe that Trek had to explain why every race they encountered looked similar...
And Enterprise explained why Klingons looked different in the Original series. Ruining a good joke from DS9
You got to watch Enterprise to get the DS9 sceneAnd here I recently saw the time travel episode where they go to the Tribble episode of original Star Trek and Worf got uncomfortable seeing the first Klingons (and the VERY low budget costumes) and explained some genetic mutation thingie.
Does this happen often with Klingons now?
Producers too scared to let go of that crutch that is nostalgia I'm guessing.
It's not a Netflix original series. Netflix is just licensing the overseas rights. So I would doubt it
FIREKNIGHT2029
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The Klingons look stupid but other than that, nice.
This. You have to hit the ground running from episode 1 or you won't get a second chance. It's screwed up that has to be the case. If Season 1 does well they might be able to do slower paced stuff in a season 2 or season 3. Doing it season 1 is a great way of only getting a season 1.
Oh man, really? What was that explanation? Never did watch all of Enterprise
This was also true for Stargate Universe compared to SG-1 (there were other issues too obvs). Can't afford to be slow out of the gate any more.
I missed the good old days.
The kligions got hit with a plague that was killing them, they found an antidote but it turned them into original series Klingons for a few generations
It kind of fits if you look at the evolution of klingons in the original series movies
That's not really true. What Stargate Universe and even shows like Enterprise showed is you cannot piss off the fanbase too much or they will turn their backs. Once the dedicated fanbase turns its back its over as ratings will never recover enough no matter how better a show gets etc.
DeviantBoi
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This is coming to Netflix the day after each episodes air, right?
Apart from the very first episode, you still won't be!
*shake my head*
I guess everyone is going to have to bomb with their streaming service before they learn
Haha, yea wow. Haven't been keeping up to date on the Discovery news and didn't know this was locked behind their streaming service. Welp, F#$k that then. If my arm is going to be twisted to subscribe to any other stupid streaming service it would be whatever that WB/DC thing is going to be.
The steam runner ship in the pilot is the Shinzhou (SP?), you can mostly make it out in one clip early. There's also shots of the Europa getting cut into, but not sure if they showed her fully at all.
They're going to have a kobayashi maru event in the pilot and I'm guessing the Discovery is the ship on a mission to resolve the season long arc.
They learned of Earths Gene wars and started their own arms race, but got in over their heads. They created an antimutagen to cure those infected, but it was based on augment DANA and some human characteristics lingered from the therapy for a few generations in those that needed to be cured. They felt like outcasts and mostly stayed on the empire borders trying to regain their honor.
The Technomancer
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I will watch this because Star Trek, but man I still can't think of a more boring played out angle to go with than "conflict with the Klingons". I mean it makes sense because people know what Klingons are but
meh
meh
True, but SG-1 had 4 seasons pre booked. They could afford to take their time and it was a new TV franchise to boot.
Universe only had 2 pre booked and it started very slowly, in part because there were 2351 characters vying for screen time.
You have to get people on board quickly.
That actually looks a ton better than I first imagined it would. The first ever image of the ship we saw way back when looked so horrible I didn't have much hope for the show. Amazing turn around. No idea what's up with the Klingons but you know what? They've been stale and boring for a long time now. Doesn't help their bullshit sense of honor seems to be all over the place. It always felt weak so I'm willing to see where they go.
The plan to make no one safe so that will definitely help with the It's war factor. Maybe we'll even see one ship get blown up and replaced with another.
The plan to make no one safe so that will definitely help with the It's war factor. Maybe we'll even see one ship get blown up and replaced with another.
The Faceless Master
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sounds like they're pushing the American audience towards piracy.
who's gonna pay that monthly fee for one show?
who's gonna pay that monthly fee for one show?
Nah. It's basically a carbon copy of what happened to the Kelvin in Trek 2009. Substitute time traveling Romulans for Woken Ancient Klingons.
The only real question is what's the season crisis that leads to the main character taking the Discovery back out.
Succinct Verbosity
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Well there is always conflict with somebody, and the klingons are probably the most interesting villains outside of the Dominion. Voyager fucked up the Borg and the Romulans have largely boring outside of a few episodes and the Romulan War, which no writer seems to want to cover for some reason.
There is more then one show on the service. All of CBS' shows are on it and every single Star Trek series as well. It's not like you're paying and only have access to one single show. I get the impression a few people seem to think this from their comments. Would people be complaining if this was on Netflix in the US (wish it was to be honest but oh well) as well instead of being broadcast on TV? I can understand the issue with it not being on Netflix if you're already paying for it. Yet I do wonder if some people they have to pay anything. Is it just because it's Star Trek and it's always been "free" on broadcast until now?
For Star Trek? I definitely will. I actually like to support the shows that I enjoy. So many people want everything for free and that's not how life works. Especially for as expensive as this show is costing them to make.
If people don't want to pay to stream it then I guess wait for the Blu-Ray release. Or iTunes if that's your thing.
UnknownSpirit
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It looks pretty. And Ill give it a shot. I need some more trek in my life.
Succinct Verbosity
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You guys in the US think you have it bad. The Expanse Season 2 STILL hasn't aired outside of the US despite Netflix having the rights to it. At least you have some sort of legal way to watch a show you like.
I get CBS with my cable package. Why can't I watch a CBS show on my CBS channel I already get? And if it was on Netflix at least there is other original stuff there I want to pay to watch that I can't watch on my cable TV.
It's from before the timeline diverged.
So it's both.
Can always buy it from Amazon, Google, iTunes, etc.
lastplayed
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Looks great, looking forward to it!
I just wish it was a hard reboot, looks way too slick for pre-TOS.
I just wish it was a hard reboot, looks way too slick for pre-TOS.
Actually its after the timeline divergence. Its 10 years before Kirk took command of the Enterprise. So it would be around 2255. Kirk is a Lieutenant at this point. NCC-1701 is already 10 years old at this point.
Succinct Verbosity
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Ah. I can wait, but my point being subscribing for one show seems like non-issue. I mean most people subscribe to HBO Go just for Game of Thrones and then cancel.
Ah, I saw "10 years before Kirk" and thought it was 10 years before he was born.
My bad.
Marty Chinn
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I just took a look at what shows they do have on CBS All Access and I was kind of surprised how much wasn't there. It would be much more compelling if a lot more of the shows were complete in their back catalog. But as is, there's so much missing.
They sure ain't making it easy for that show to grow. Shame; it's great.
True. There could be a LOT more there given CBS's catalog and their should be more of some stuff that is there. They need to improve this greatly.
For me I think it might be worth the price to have access to so much Star Trek. It's suppose to be like $6 a month?