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Nintendo full year financial results [23.2B yen loss, 3.6M Wii U/12M 3DS forecast]
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Mario Kart 7 has passed Super Mario 3D Land.
Hyperactivity
Banned
That much I see happening with Smash and MK8
vinnygambini
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People should also note that 270 million was invested in R&D in Q4 as well; hence the more pronounced loss in Q4.
the biggest releases are on the way with a more sustained push (or at least more closely put together one). i think it's somewhat realistic considering this will be the system's peak year.
3ds sales are set to hit 55m overall by the end of the next year. considering their drop in expectations, i don't think a new version of the platform is in order. they must be planning a replacement for the next (2015-2016) fiscal year.
They fell short by about 80,000. Nintendo wanted to sell 2.8 million over the whole fiscal year, yet only sold 2.72 million.
Indeed. It's the sole reason for such huge losses, but people will gloss over that fact.
Empyrean Heaven
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Expected that their forecasts would lower again. 3.6 million Wii Us is absolutely pathetic, and they may not even hit that.
Unless Nintendo has an E3 the level of 50 E3 2010s combined, Iwata's going to be shown the door come June, guaranteed.
Unless Nintendo has an E3 the level of 50 E3 2010s combined, Iwata's going to be shown the door come June, guaranteed.
I really doubt they expect much from the Wii U even if they have big titles to announce.
Compared to last year's forecasts, Wii U is quite realistic. 3DS isn't, though, unless they have another restyle happening / price cut (which could well be in the works, but right now...nope).
I think 3DS software sales for this FY were over Nintendo's expectations, right?
EDIT: Yep, they were. Quoting myself from the last thread
3DS FY 2014 software total - 67,890,000
3DS software units forecasted goal was 66,000,000, so almost 2,000,000 units more.
I think 3DS software sales for this FY were over Nintendo's expectations, right?
EDIT: Yep, they were. Quoting myself from the last thread
3DS FY 2014 software total - 67,890,000
3DS software units forecasted goal was 66,000,000, so almost 2,000,000 units more.
I wonder if they really do have a Wii U successor already lined up? And if it'll be BC or not, sounds like IBM's something of a weak link here unfortunately, though if it's between making better CPUs for game consoles and making things like Watson the latter's kind of a bigger deal.
they could hit 9.78m by the end of the fiscal year, which is below the dreamcast but above the saturn. i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they could get to the 12-15m mark. although definitely the low end, of course.
It's way too soon. Yes, the Wii U is selling badly, but rushing out a new console with no support for it, that's not the solution.
Huh, I thought that was shipped.
But yeah, if you're right then I'd say that 12-13 mil would be a reasonable estimate - if they can even get to 3.6m this year. And since most of their fans have picked one up (even me, finally) now is when it gets really tough to sell the damn thing. A lot rests on Mario Kart. They need to market the shit out of a Mario Kart bundle this summer and next Christmas. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that it takes off a little bit.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Yep, what is that, about 50% of what they've sold to date? Still possible they could miss it :/
Monty Mole
Member
So, they know Wii U is dead and they have no intention of trying to turn it around or save it.
Will be interesting to know if there really is some new hardware on the cards (well, it's inevitable), of the crossover kind.
Pretty much. That's what I'm doing.
No, they know it's struggling and that turning it around will not be an easy task. Better to hedge their bets and hopefully exceed them, than set wild projections and fail to meet them again.
Hyperactivity
Banned
12.26 Million Pokemon X/Y (does anyone know how this is tracking compared to other games?)
9.62 Million MK7 (same here)
9.27 SM3DLand
7.82 million NSMB2 (comparison to NSMB?)
7.66 ACNL
3.98 million for Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon (still feels like it came out of nowhere)
3.5 million for Nintendogs+Cats
3.35 OoT 3D
2.51 million for ALBW
2.21 Million Paper Mario Sticker Star
2.08 Mario and Luigi dream Team
1.85 million Tomodachi life
Those numbers are purely fictional. Inventories are down 10% since last march.
It probably depends on what he says later today and what he has lined up to try and convince everyone to let him see out what he mentioned a few months back.
GreenMakoEyes
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3.6M for the upcoming fiscal year is depressing.
I have to expect if anything shows up it'll be sometime next year. This fall's too early, ti's probably enough to just throw out some bigger games before moving on, and it'd give the system at least a 3 year life span.
StreetsAhead
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Heart Gold/Soul Silver: 12.72
Black/White: 15.58
Diamond/Pearl: 17:63
Mario Kart DS: 23.56
NSMB: 30.75
Argh, that man is so stubborn. I keep hoping he has a plan, but at this I feel he needs to set aside his pride and let someone new take the reins (who hopefully doesn't have serious plans for mobile though). We keep saying he's done but really, who knows?
Graphics Horse
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The will ship a ton of Mario Kart bundles I'm sure. I could see this year being marginally better.
strikeselect
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In retrospect, the original Wii may have been the worst thing to ever happen to Nintendo. Their focus on chasing the next big gimmick and having an underpowered console has bit them in the ass.
well tomorrow's the lightning round where the score can really change. we'll see what the plans are for the qol platform and the new hardware for handheld and console gaming.
i think iwata's stacked it so he's in a fair bit of power through the end of march 2017. this will be the worst fiscal year so far, with r&d costs high and revenue low, but qol is supposed to come out in the 2015-2016 fiscal year. if that doesn't take off then it's up to the next handheld/console which should launch partly in that fiscal year or some time in the next.
the big problem would be if the new console and handheld are obvious whiffs (the console in particular i mean the wii u just boggles the mind in almost every way), then it won't matter if a new guy is in charge because it'll be way too late to right that ship.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
How long can Iwata remain on his throne? I mean he should be out of 1up's right?
Hyperactivity
Banned
Huh
Think Pokemon might actually be tracking favorably when comparing the install bases, not entirely sure
The Wii was the best thing to happen to them. The Wii U was the worst thing.
NumberThree
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Huh, almost 4 million copies of Luigi's Mansion? I had no idea the game was that big.
The Wii U sales projections make me assume they are not intending to give its key games much of a marketing budget or give the hardware a price cut. Still at least they are realistic and they aren't projecting silly numbers.
It reminds of the Gamecube/GBA era marketing wise..everything stripped back to a minimum in the hopes core Nintendo fans will keep them ticking over just enough to profit.
It reminds of the Gamecube/GBA era marketing wise..everything stripped back to a minimum in the hopes core Nintendo fans will keep them ticking over just enough to profit.
There's nothing he can say to hide the fact that the Wii U is a complete failure of a product, designed and released on his watch.
We all know how both tech and entertainment products work - if a product isn't a success within it's first year and a half then it's very unlikely to ever gain momentum and become a success. The Wii U is what it is, and it's not pretty. Iwata can't whitewash this, not now that the investors have the hard data.
Rough times for him, and that's why he's distracting everyone with his 'Shangri-La meets El Dorado' Qwol stuff.
DXB-KNIGHT
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Huh the only thing that surprised me here is their reasonable expectation, it's good to start thinking properly Nintendo.
Yeah, XY are doing quite well, I'd say. They will continue to sell for years too.
1st Course
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X and Y are probably going to end up with higher sales than Black and White at least given that those numbers are from more than a two after release.
Almost everyone said Wii U is dead since January 2013 and now some people are acting all surprised that they have a low forecast for next year? Finally they are being realistic in their predictions.
And this doesn't say anything about what games will or will not be on Wii U, as anyhow their biggest hitters (SSB and MK) will be out this year. No other game (even Zelda doesn't have the same system seller power) will push the sales more than those two.
And this doesn't say anything about what games will or will not be on Wii U, as anyhow their biggest hitters (SSB and MK) will be out this year. No other game (even Zelda doesn't have the same system seller power) will push the sales more than those two.
This should be put in the OP.
I'm also working on updating more that old post of mine I requoted, in order to highlight the other (negative) differencies.
astrogamer
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Considering those are the final totals yes. I'm pretty sure it will pass B&W and maybe D&P
yeah that is pretty much confirmed for you.. I can guarantee that..
The Verge: Nintendo reports third consecutive annual loss as Wii U sales fizzle out
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Maybe the doomsayer are not that wrong after all...
Link to article
Maybe the doomsayer are not that wrong after all...
StreetsAhead
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Yeah, the sales I posted cover from release to March 31st, 2014. XY has only been out 6 months.