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PGS -- Windows 10 Game Handheld announced
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And this will be funded ... seriously people, what the hell.
Oh, fake backers is a possibility, yeah. There's still hope for the human race.
Oh, fake backers is a possibility, yeah. There's still hope for the human race.
GankzyMcfly
Member
lol too bad its fake. It would be hilarious if they became popular but relied on some original cache of z8750's the dev.s had...then they start buying used parts for the manufacturing process after that original cache runs dry...would not surprise me with how shady this thing has been since the start and unfortunately due to its shadyness i don't think we'll get to see it go that far...only get to watch ppl lose money which is barely any fun.
UPDATE:
Okay, I think you are right!
I asked them this question about the sticks:
the answer was:
Just like that?
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Don't judge the book by its cover.
I read some illogical comments here (of course the other comments are logical)
but hey! let us have faith in the young devs this time.
even if it is 250 dollars, that does not mean the final product will get the same price! This limited amount of devices is for the backers only.
I paid 275 dollars to support them. I do not need the device to play some hardcore games but to use it as a normal phone (maybe to play some indie games). probably I will stream some visual novel games to the phone (Zero time dilemma is not good on the big screen though)
Some of you mock the people who supported them, but at the same time, they spend hundreds of dollars on newly released expensive phones that only cost a hundred dollar - or less - in the production level. Those phones are expensive due to the advertisements the companies make around the world.
anyway, they have succeeded in less than 24 hours.
Okay, I think you are right!
I asked them this question about the sticks:
the answer was:
Just like that?
--------------
Don't judge the book by its cover.
I read some illogical comments here (of course the other comments are logical)
but hey! let us have faith in the young devs this time.
even if it is 250 dollars, that does not mean the final product will get the same price! This limited amount of devices is for the backers only.
I paid 275 dollars to support them. I do not need the device to play some hardcore games but to use it as a normal phone (maybe to play some indie games). probably I will stream some visual novel games to the phone (Zero time dilemma is not good on the big screen though)
Some of you mock the people who supported them, but at the same time, they spend hundreds of dollars on newly released expensive phones that only cost a hundred dollar - or less - in the production level. Those phones are expensive due to the advertisements the companies make around the world.
anyway, they have succeeded in less than 24 hours.
killer rin
Member
I sincerely hope that this thing is real... but I think I'm going to hold off on backing it until products are in people's hands, at which point I will take the hit and order a version at full price
I love that the voice over doesn't even lip sync correctly.
You know, if this is some illicitus money laundering scheme, I must say I'm still impressed. This is super creative and it is clear they put in a lot of work into this. It's a bit dumb since it puts a lot of attention to itself, but I guess the modern Mob doesn't like to stay in the shadows.
I'm not judging this book by its cover. I'm judging it by its substance.
As someone who personally has worked in the software industry for nearly a decade, and who has an electrical engineering background, and who knows people who currently work on ambitious hardware projects, absolutely nothing about this project sounds feasible with anywhere close to the money they've spent so far, the money they requested, or the time they gave themselves to complete it.
It sounds like an incredibly naive project. Not deliberately misleading (though perhaps way too optimistic). But naive. They have absolutely no fucking clue what they've set themselves up to do, and have absolutely no fucking idea how difficult it will be to finish this project in the timeline they've set for themselves, or with the money they've asked for.
But more importantly, are you a JAPANESE ENGINEER?!?!
Quadraphonic
Member
What kind of audio system? Heh.
"With such functions as, for example..."
I mean, I'd like this device, but for the price they offer, it can't be done. Their prototype videos seem to completely not show the device being used as people would. Not picking it up or moving it around.
Also, I'm pretty sure their first language isn't English, and they had someone dub over their own voices, hence the weird 'lag'
"With such functions as, for example..."
I mean, I'd like this device, but for the price they offer, it can't be done. Their prototype videos seem to completely not show the device being used as people would. Not picking it up or moving it around.
Also, I'm pretty sure their first language isn't English, and they had someone dub over their own voices, hence the weird 'lag'
It might end up being nothing.
veloxStrix
Banned
I'd love a handheld to play smaller, less-intensive indie games on when I have breaks throughout the day. It's a shame this is a sham because the concept is pretty sweet.
both Vita and 3DS dose that
veloxStrix
Banned
Yeah, except they don't play PC games. I guess I should have specified.
Neither will this.
veloxStrix point was that if this was legit, it would be sweet, since it would play windows games.
I agree.
And it is possible to build such a thing these days (a handheld which can play thousands of indie and older AAA x86/Windows games), just probably not for this price.
You can always go for the GPD Win 10
. A actual legit project that is actually coming out and has a good team behind it.
me0wish
Member
You can always go for the GPD Win 10
*drool*
*drool*
Too bad it's ugly
You can always go for the GPD Win 10
^^^Yep definitely while the handhold is not a powerhouse it's legit and has a team behind it that has made some good android handhelds before, I have the GPD XD myself. With it seemingly becoming a success I'm sure they will make better ones in the future which I'm excited for.
So yeah their prototype is cobbled together from other devices, their amazing low price, the company no one knows anything about, the fact that they didn't seem to realize whatever modem they are using is not compatible with any carrier in the US, the telescopic sticks that they claim they are still in the process of developing, their comments that they can't make a more integrated prototype since that would require certain parts you can only get in bulk and that they expect production to be between January to February next year sets off so many warning bells.
Good luck manufacturing anything during the Chinese new year holidays.
And any company will sell single samples of components to interested customers to make prototypes so I dunno why they said that.
And then for $800 10 backers can get the hardcore version with a titanium case.
Making titanium cases using tools designed to make aluminum ones will wear tooling out.
Very expensive tooling.
I can't see any way making just 10 titanium cases is worth the associated wear and tear and costs.
GPD may not have had a prototype at the beginning of their indiegogo campaign but they've made multiple clamshell android devices over the years and are a established company with credentials.
PGS has none of that.
I am fond of clamshell palmtops and the PGS and its specs is attractive but so many warning bells are screaming at me right now.
Good luck manufacturing anything during the Chinese new year holidays.
And any company will sell single samples of components to interested customers to make prototypes so I dunno why they said that.
And then for $800 10 backers can get the hardcore version with a titanium case.
Making titanium cases using tools designed to make aluminum ones will wear tooling out.
Very expensive tooling.
I can't see any way making just 10 titanium cases is worth the associated wear and tear and costs.
GPD may not have had a prototype at the beginning of their indiegogo campaign but they've made multiple clamshell android devices over the years and are a established company with credentials.
PGS has none of that.
I am fond of clamshell palmtops and the PGS and its specs is attractive but so many warning bells are screaming at me right now.
GhostTrick
Banned
I can't believe it's already funded. I hope no one on GAF backed this thing
I can't believe it's already funded. I hope no one on GAF backed this thing
Because the funding target is too low. It should easily have been 400k minimum for all the things they are trying to do here.
Even if they are getting engineers from certain countries at a bargain due to currency and standards of living differences the staff is going to be painfully small to get anything done in 1.3 years.
*blinks*
GhostTrick
Banned
Er sorry but I'm not sure what that means.
I think someone at kickstarter did some talking with PGS.
All their 3d renders have been removed and replaced with non-realistic sketches.
Before:
After:
Before:
After:
Just a way to express how unbelievably shocking and bad this is. It's a good point you're making about how flawed this project is.
Ah gotcha.
I thought it was something along those lines but wasn't sure and am prone to assuming things so I wanted to make sure.
Browsing the pgs thread on the pyra forums and someone dug up the company info.
http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/dt_llc.asp?id_nbr=E7561M&name_entity=PGS LAB LLC
Person who created the LLC in Detroit is Michael Shariff who I think is this guy.
http://inventacapital.com/about/history/
30yearsofhurt
Member
Symmetrical sticks???
I threw a dollar in myself out of curiosity of the backer comments and updates.There are sadly a lot of people who don't understand hardware or lack the critical thinking to question this product, the promises, the price, and the development team. It's sad really.
Since you go to the Open Pandora boards you likely have some knowledge on how long of a process it is to design and build a prototype PCB let alone design retractable analogs, case molds, cooling, testing, etc. There is no way they are delivering anything 9 months let alone in 2017.This is either a scam or some people that are in way over their heads (
it's a scam
NoFaceNico
Member
If that's true, then keep a close eye on him. If he ditches the project then that could be the earliest indication from the inside that this was a scam and they completely misrepresented how far along they actually are.
This sounds like something from one of those emails you get, you know? We am having update of great goods! Buy now! We send money you next!
In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if they did have a "goal" of a certain amount of incoming cash. And then:
Spaced Harrier
Member
It's just renders
NoFaceNico
Member
Same here, the comments are going to be fun. I did the same thing with Skarp.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Oh my god, this is such a sham it's not even funny.
StereoVsn
Member
Ooh, that's a great idea. Going to do that as well.
From the official account of Intel on twitter:
The Atom x7-Z8750 was launched at the beginning of this year so it is still under production. 1/2
This processor is dedicated for tablets and smart phones.
Regards,
Mike C 2/2
The link to the tweet.
https://twitter.com/IntelSupport/status/750099340627238912?s=09
The Atom x7-Z8750 was launched at the beginning of this year so it is still under production. 1/2
This processor is dedicated for tablets and smart phones.
Regards,
Mike C 2/2
The link to the tweet.
https://twitter.com/IntelSupport/status/750099340627238912?s=09
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