I disagree. How were the sales for the last two months exceptional?
Name another console (other than PS4) that sold 4million in the first 4 months.
It is exceptional from my stand. Question is, is it exceptional from MS's stand point?
Your title doesnt imply that.
My mistake.
Let's play that one game where we ignore macroeconomic conditions, expanded markets, and balooning advertising budgets.
Let's play that one game where we ignore macroeconomic conditions, expanded markets, and balooning advertising budgets.
I said the last two months. How much of that 4 million came from November and December? Sure, it sold great at launch. But it's not launch any more. At some point, 4 million in 4 months is going to turn into 5 million in 6 months. And then 6 million in 10 months. I'm disagreeing with the notion that right now it is selling exceptionally, not that it didn't sell well when it first came out.
It's the most successful launch for Xbox in history, hard to be upset with that. Remember people, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Once titles like Halo and Gears release, even the most die hard Halo 4 haters are going to buy an XB1 for Halo 5.
I read that but was under the impression he was referring to the 1 billion number as combined while the 400 million was in reference to expected Xbox One sales.
400 million is over twice the highest selling home console ever. These numbers are ridiculously massive and are much more representative of somebody barely grasping at reality.
Well I think it's pretty clear it's not doing as good as Microsoft wanted it to. The fact that they ran $50 gift card promotion at stores, and bundled their 2 biggest games, for free, this fast I think is a telling sign. By no means do I think it's doomed, but defiantly not where they want it.
It's the most successful launch for Xbox in history, hard to be upset with that. Remember people, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Once titles like Halo and Gears release, even the most die hard Halo 4 haters are going to buy an XB1 for Halo 5.
It's the most successful launch for Xbox in history, hard to be upset with that. Remember people, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Once titles like Halo and Gears release, even the most die hard Halo 4 haters are going to buy an XB1 for Halo 5.
Once titles like Halo and Gears release, even the most die hard Halo 4 haters are going to buy an XB1 for Halo 5.
I think it's worth noting that manufacturing has changed significantly since the PS3 and Xbox 360 were launched. These launch number probably were just not possible.Name another console (other than PS4) that sold 4million in the first 4 months.
It's the most successful launch for Xbox in history, hard to be upset with that. Remember people, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Once titles like Halo and Gears release, even the most die hard Halo 4 haters are going to buy an XB1 for Halo 5.
Are you talking about people that hate just Halo 4, or Halo haters in general?
OT: It's doing good, but it's not doing PS4 good, and that's the problem. Their problem is that the PS4 is just being seen as the better value right now. Casuals may not understand concrete numbers like 1080p or "8 GB GDDR5 ZOMG" (remember that thread?) But they will hear that one console is more powerful or is cheaper than another and that will factor into their decision. Not to mention all the mistrust Microsoft has after the botched E3 reveal.
I can't help but feel like a lot of casuals that own XBOs now buy them for a mixture of brand loyalty (Xbox ecosystem), certain exclusive(s) (Halo/CoD/TitanFall), and because their friends are getting it, and they don't want to get left out.
I'd like to hear some opinions, GAF. Are my feelings misplaced?
It's the most successful launch for Xbox in history, hard to be upset with that. Remember people, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Once titles like Halo and Gears release, even the most die hard Halo 4 haters are going to buy an XB1 for Halo 5.
I think it's worth noting that manufacturing has changed significantly since the PS3 and Xbox 360 were launched. These launch number probably were just not possible.
OT: It's doing good, but it's not doing PS4 good, and that's the problem. Their problem is that the PS4 is just being seen as the better value right now. Casuals may not understand concrete numbers like 1080p or "8 GB GDDR5 ZOMG" (remember that thread?) But they will hear that one console is more powerful or is cheaper than another and that will factor into their decision. Not to mention all the mistrust Microsoft has after the botched E3 reveal.
I can't help but feel like a lot of casuals that own XBOs now buy them for a mixture of brand loyalty (Xbox ecosystem), certain exclusive(s) (Halo/CoD/TitanFall), and because their friends are getting it, and they don't want to get left out.
I'd like to hear some opinions, GAF. Are my feelings misplaced?
All things considered they're doing pretty good. 360 was sitting at 3.2 million shipped at the end of April 2006. Xbox One is closing in on 4 million sold to consumers.
The total numbers seem healthy, but as far as we know the demand fell of a cliff the last months, and they haven't even announced 4 million, hence the bundles and pricecuts.
It only takes common sense to tell they invested a crazy amount of money with the APU, kinect and gamepad research, the NFL deal, Titanfall moneyhat, marketing, 1B in software, fifa and titanfall bundles, pricecuts, and that they certainly expected to make it back with their old policies and subscriptions.
Right now they're losing in every market, who knows what their projections were but my guess is they have not met them.
I think if they can keep pre price-drop sale split to 60-40 or 55-45 vs PS4 they're doing well, but if it starts getting into 75-25 territory that's a problem, because they might get to the situation where a price drop isn't enough to recapture momentum.
The gap is not closing EVER, it will get bigger and bigger and bigger and biggerI definitely do not think it's selling exceptionally well. Not by their standards, and not by mine. When you're going head to head against a competitor in a global market with a relatively fixed market size, it's all about projecting your sales against theirs. I don't think anyone expects the gaming market to grow this cycle, so let's say there's 150 million customers up for grabs between Sony and Microsoft. How is it impressive for Microsoft that Sony is outselling them 3:2 worldwide? Assuming the market is not going to grow, it doesn't matter if these console are selling more quickly early on than past consoles. What matters is the current ratio, and whether or not it seems likely to change.
I personally think the worldwide gap will close by the end of the generation, but that Sony will well more than Microsoft. But each company will sell slightly fewer units than last generation in my opinion. I'm glad Microsoft's sales improved in February in The U.S. and hope the trend continues so that both consoles succeed.
Microsoft was expecting to fucking massacre sony. They thought their bullshit exclusive partnerships like NFL, EA, Doritos and Dew, and MacDonalds were enough to destroy sony. They were expecting to be the iphone of consoles. The farther they fall behind the better for gamers. All their money hatted exclusives will dry up and all gamers across the consoles will enjoy multiplat games.It's obviously not, otherwise we wouldn't have the Titanfall bundle, the Forza giveaway, and various other promotions such as gift cards and such, not to mention the price drop in the UK.
MS couldn't have really thought that was achievable could they?
God Yusuf says some terrible things. Someone keep him away from the press.
MS projections for Xbox One sales are (were?) at 400 million to 1 billion lifetime. So says Yusuf Mehdi in May of last year.
Totally unlikely to ever happen. Ever.
Are you talking worldwide or just in North America?
I can't imagine what their expectations were going into launch. They're probably ecstatic it's not the unrelenting bloodbath the internet was predicting
Didn't Sony ps4 get crushed its first couple of years on the market before being competitive with the 360? Xbox one is way ahead of the $599 ps4 when it came out.
I can't imagine what their expectations were going into launch. They're probably ecstatic it's not the unrelenting bloodbath the internet was predicting
Is not really comparable because ps3 made up the difference in areas the Xbox will never sell. Xbox has US/UK and that's about it.
It's the best selling console in Xbox history. A glorious accomplishment
MS projections for Xbox One sales are (were?) at 400 million to 1 billion lifetime. So says Yusuf Mehdi in May of last year.
Totally unlikely to ever happen. Ever.
No matter how the fanboys try and spin it 4 mill in 5 months is exceptional.