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IGN Rumor: Nintendo Revealing New Hardware at E3 [Up: MCV + Videogamer]

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Lol... Nintendo the only one that still uses PowerPC and arguing for how modern it is? Type in IBM supercomputer into google.

Yes, I just love using my personal IBM supercomputer. We are talking about home electronics. People don't develop video games for a supercomputer.
 

jax

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doubt it

if they were doing a hardware reveal an actual press conference would be the ideal way to reveal it, not through a direct

but wtf do i know

3DS XL was announced after the E3 conference, almost secretly.
 
Can I be pissed if they discontinue the Wii U? Or would that make me "entitled" or something?

Hell you can be a girffe if they discontinue the Wii U, for as likely as it is to happen.

My prediction:

Nintendo is cutting off the rotten WiiU limb earlier than expected as to not kill the rest of the company.

*stops reading post*

That's the dumbest thing they could do right now, for several reasons.
 

Sandfox

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No more gimmicks from Nintendo.

Wii U revision, no gamepad, more cost efficient hardware and design - $199 or less.
The PS3 and 360 aren't even that low and they would probably still be cheaprr to produce than any Wii U revision.
 

LoveCake

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Because the Wii U is effectively dead - why should they buy one?

And I already own one, so.

Would these people go out & spend £300/400 on a new Nintendo console, i doubt it very much, everyone would wait & see whats what with it & nobody would end up buying it.

Releasing a new home console would alienate Nintendo's current supporters (WiiU owners), how would anyone be able to trust Nintendo again ?

I also think it's way to early to replace the 3DS as well.
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Lol... You're suggesting that Nintendo the only one that still uses PowerPC which is completely false and also arguing that it's not as modern which is also completely false. Type in IBM supercomputer into google.
Don't do that to him.
 
By one company. x86 is used by pretty much every PC, and now the PS4 and Xbone.
I'm not arguing against Nintendo using it, I think it is smart for them to stick with it, but to argue that it is just as modern as x86 is foolish.

You do realise that x86 is an instruction set. And one that was created in 1978.
Yes, it's been refined over the years, but it's hardly modern.

PowerPC is around 15 years newer. It is also RISC, whereas x86 is CISC, so technically speaking, PowerPC could be considered more modern in that respect.

Maybe we have different definitions of the word 'modern'...
 
A Wii U successor is pretty much out the window right now, right? I think it's way too soon for that.
So that leaves us with the handheld revision or something entirely new even tho I think it's too soon for a 3DS successor as well.

Well, given how abysmal sales have been, I wouldn't say it's way too soon. But I'd say it's too soon in that they'll probably give it at least one more holiday season before conceding defeat and scrambling to come up with a successor. At the very least, they'd probably want to wait and see if Mario Kart makes a dent. So, yeah, I think it's rather implausible that they'd unveil another console at E3, but I also don't think it's absurd that they'd be internally preparing for the worst and perhaps be thinking about new console hardware sooner than you'd think.
 
For those hoping it's a brand-new console...it's not. If it was, they would have a full press conference instead of a Direct.

My money is on some sort of redesigned Wii U, possibly sans gamepad, at a far cheaper price point (between 199 and 249). They've got to really go into panic mode to get this console into homes now.
 
"Ultra Nintendo"

Or whatever you want to call it. Here is what would work for me:

I have missed out on all the apparently amazing Nintendo games on Wii and Wii U for these last 10 years or so because I can't be bothered with the Wii control and certainly not interested in the Wii U tablet nonsense. But I love and miss all of this IP and I feel that I am missing out on all the games, especially the Marios and the Donkey Kongs. If Nintendo simply released a gorgeous HD gaming box in 2014/2015 with backwards compatible reworks of all of its killer IP from Wii and Wii U, and new editions of its games that were made ground up for new console with only a proper control pad in mind, then I would happily pay a premium for that box. I would not need thirdparty software, gimmicks. I just need a reason to revisit Nintendo again... or rather, my reasons for *not* revisiting Nintendo, to be eliminated. :)

(To be honest, I'd be just as happy if all these games I have missed were just put onto Xbox One or PS4. Either way works)

P.S. should I maybe consider Wii U? Can I literally throw the tablet slab in the trash and play the best stuff only on traditional gamepad?
 

hawk2025

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Virtual Boy wasn't a replacement to either the GameBoy or the SNES. These would be. It's different.



Since when did achievements make a console good? Also, the Wii U is modern hardware. May be underpowered compared to its counterparts, sure, but it's modern.


The DS also wasn't meant to replace the GBA.



Until it was.
 
Why does everyone want a new console to replace the WiiU ?

Why don't these people just buy a WiiU ?

What are people like me supposed to do who shelled out £300 at launch for a WiiU supposed to do ?

Will Nintendo delve into their huge cash pile & give us all a free upgrade to the replacement, because i very much doubt it & what makes people think we will go out & spend more money because i already have, i have now got a PS4 as well.

If Nintendo drop the WiiU i'm gonna set fire to my WiiU & never buy anything from them again, i will be disgusted by them if they do this i really will :( it's not even two years old yet !

I totally understand this opinion, and then I play Wind Waker and think even just for this game perhaps its was worth it.
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Yes, I just love using my personal IBM supercomputer. We are talking about home electronics. People don't develop video games for a supercomputer.
Ohhhhh, so we've been talking about home electronics all this time.. You should've said so. In home electronics ARM is pretty much the sole new design.
 
Because the GBA flopped so hard when it was released when the GBC was 2 and a half years old? Or because the DS flopped so hard because it was released when the GBA was only 3 and a half years old?


The 3DS is over 3 years old now and a 2015 release for the new handheld would make it 4-4 1/2 when its replacement is released. As Nintendo showed with both the Wii U and 3DS is it never a good idea to wait until the previous system is dead to release your successor. The 3DS's sales have been on a downward trend since 2012. They have to strike while the iron is hot.

That has absolutely nothing to do with it. The Wii U is failing, and Nintendo should keep the 3ds revenue train going as long as it can. There are no guarantees that publishers will adopt a new platform, and but a new platform to support would guarantee that 3ds sales will continue to slide into the gutter. So, it's a terrible idea... For now. Nintendo still has options to pursue for reinvigorating the 3ds sales and limiting the Wii U bleed.
 

Rich!

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Safe bet: New 3DS revision (standard size)

Crazy bet: Successor to both Wii U and 3DS - console that works as handheld too. Zelda and X are turned into cross-platform games (like Twilight Princess) and all other Wii U projects quietly canned. 3DS support continues into late 2015.
 
You do realise that x86 is an instruction set. And one that was created in 1978.
Yes, it's been refined over the years, but it's hardly modern.

PowerPC is around 15 years newer. It is also RISC, whereas x86 is CISC, so technically speaking, PowerPC could be considered more modern in that respect.

Maybe we have different definitions of the word 'modern'...

It is modern in the sense that it is used for most modern computers, and now consoles. It is modern in the sense that it is incredibly easy to program modern software for.
PowerPC is used for specialized things now, typically not even home electronics anymore.
 

Broritos

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I would bet real cash monies that it's not a new home console. Assuming this supposed rumor isn't based off of that SEO or whatever.

The only thing that would make sense would be a new 3DS. XL isn't a revision and 2DS is a downgrade. There still hasn't been a straight up, new 3DS SKU.
 
Safe bet: New 3DS revision (standard size)

Crazy bet: Successor to both Wii U and 3DS - console that works as handheld too. Zelda and X are turned into cross-platform games (like Twilight Princess) and all other Wii U projects quietly canned. 3DS support continues into late 2015.

Safe bet:

3DS revision or QoL


It is definitely possible that Nintendo chooses E3 to unveil its new business.
 

Teknoman

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"Ultra Nintendo"

Or whatever you want to call it. Here is what would work for me:

I have missed out on all the apparently amazing Nintendo games on Wii and Wii U for these last 10 years or so because I can't be bothered with the Wii control and certainly not interested in the Wii U tablet nonsense. But I love and miss all of this IP and I feel that I am missing out on all the games, especially the Marios and the Donkey Kongs. If Nintendo simply released a gorgeous HD gaming box in 2014/2015 with backwards compatible reworks of all of its killer IP from Wii and Wii U, and new editions of its games that were made ground up for new console with only a proper control pad in mind, then I would happily pay a premium for that box. I would not need thirdparty software, gimmicks. I just need a reason to revisit Nintendo again... or rather, my reasons for *not* revisiting Nintendo, to be eliminated. :)

(To be honest, I'd be just as happy if all these games I have missed were just put onto Xbox One or PS4. Either way works)

P.S. should I maybe consider Wii U? Can I literally throw the tablet slab in the trash and play the best stuff only on traditional gamepad?

The "tablet slab" works just like a regular controller once you get your hands on it.

What if it's a new console and it's just called SKU?

Super Kool Unit

Lets go.






And yeah, realistically, Nintendo isnt axing the Wii U or even replacing it / the gamepad any time soon. Especially if Mario Kart 8 / that Kart 8 bundle with the remote + free game offer starts pushing sales.
 

hawk2025

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That's what they told us so Nintendo fans wouldn't get angry...but I think that was their plan all along. ;-)



Absolutely.

Which is the point I'm trying to make -- it's not completely outside of Nintendo's MO to drop a failed platform completely, and they have had success in the past from doing exactly that and moving on.

I'm in no way saying that I think it will happen or even that it's a good idea; but the original post I quoted back on page 12 was categorically wrong regarding this.
 

Neiteio

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Maybe the new hardware is some sort of half-step upgrade to the WiiU. Something where you can transfer what's on your WiiU to the new system, and where WiiU owners can upgrade to the new hardware at reduced cost. Rebranded, and with some added power and functionality, in a better value proposition marketed with a sharper focus.

Or more likely, it's a 3DS revision. If so, depending on the tech, I'll probably bite, since the 3DS has to be one of the all-around best systems ever.
 

SerodD

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By one company. x86 is used by pretty much every PC, and now the PS4 and Xbone.
I'm not arguing against Nintendo using it, I think it is smart for them to stick with it, but to argue that it is just as modern as x86 is foolish.

I'm not sure you know what x86 is, you should do a google search, while you're at it search for PowerPC aswell.
 

LoveCake

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Yes, I just love using my personal IBM supercomputer. We are talking about home electronics. People don't develop video games for a supercomputer.

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How about a nice game of chess ?
 

Jagsrock

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new 3ds xl slim OR a new peripheral for QoL would be the most probable announcement. Nintendo is already planning a year long campaign for mario kart 8 and we also got smash coming this year among what ever other surprises they have. so I highly doubt the new hardware will be wii U related especially since they are already advertising the mario kart 8 bundle. I don't expect a new console announcement till next year's E3.
 
P.S. should I maybe consider Wii U? Can I literally throw the tablet slab in the trash and play the best stuff only on traditional gamepad?

Vast majority of games give you multiple options. In the case of first-party games, you can usually play with literally any controller you have, based on what you prefer.
 
Ohhhhh, so we've been talking about home electronics all this time.. You should've said so. In home electronics ARM is pretty much the sole new design.
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For handheld devices, yes. Though mobile architecture will probably swallow all others in the future.
That has absolutely nothing to do with it. The Wii U is failing, and Nintendo should keep the 3ds revenue train going as long as it can. There are no guarantees that publishers will adopt a new platform, and but a new platform to support would guarantee that 3ds sales will continue to slide into the gutter. So, it's a terrible idea... For now. Nintendo still has options to pursue for reinvigorating the 3ds sales and limiting the Wii U bleed.
Nintendo has tried their hardest with the 3DS, They did an XL unit, they did a $130 unit, they threw games out left and right, they did tons of bundles and deals. With all that it is still trending downward yoy. They need to replace it while they still have momentum, not when they have no momentum.
 

JoeM86

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P.S. should I maybe consider Wii U? Can I literally throw the tablet slab in the trash and play the best stuff only on traditional gamepad?

Give the GamePad a go. It has really changed gaming for me. Even then, it has everything a standard controller has anyway, so no reason not to use it.
 

L00P

Member
I hope they ditch the "Wii" name for their new hardware because that shit isn't flying anymore and they know it
 

Neiteio

Member
"Ultra Nintendo"

Or whatever you want to call it. Here is what would work for me:

I have missed out on all the apparently amazing Nintendo games on Wii and Wii U for these last 10 years or so because I can't be bothered with the Wii control and certainly not interested in the Wii U tablet nonsense. But I love and miss all of this IP and I feel that I am missing out on all the games, especially the Marios and the Donkey Kongs. If Nintendo simply released a gorgeous HD gaming box in 2014/2015 with backwards compatible reworks of all of its killer IP from Wii and Wii U, and new editions of its games that were made ground up for new console with only a proper control pad in mind, then I would happily pay a premium for that box. I would not need thirdparty software, gimmicks. I just need a reason to revisit Nintendo again... or rather, my reasons for *not* revisiting Nintendo, to be eliminated. :)

(To be honest, I'd be just as happy if all these games I have missed were just put onto Xbox One or PS4. Either way works)

P.S. should I maybe consider Wii U? Can I literally throw the tablet slab in the trash and play the best stuff only on traditional gamepad?
The GamePad is the most comfortable controller on the market and works just like a regular GamePad. It's better, in fact, since the touchscreen allows you to persistently display maps and select items without pausing in Zelda, or better manage your troops in Pikmin 3, or even play the games away from the TV in other rooms of the house.

But yes, many of the titles you'd be interested in support the Pro Controller, which is a regular controller with no touchscreen, sold separately. Still, though, GamePad works fine. Only downside is keeping it plugged in since the battery runs out quick (although there is a high-capacity battery upgrade you can buy).
 
My hope, a new home console that's backwards compatible with the Wii U(so the few people that own that hardware don't get even more screwed). The Wii U is abysmal, this could be the "3rd pillar" like the DS was to the Gameboy as they let the Wii U fade into obscurity.
 

Jackano

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Last year Nintendo said they weren't doing a true media breifing because they hadn't a ne whardware to show. They aren't gonna do a true media briefing either this year... I vote for rumor BS.
 

greg400

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Yes, I just love using my personal IBM supercomputer. We are talking about home electronics. People don't develop video games for a supercomputer.

People don't develop video games for a supercomputer? You are aware that both the PS3 and 360 used a PowerPC processors right? And that both Microsoft and Sony could've very well opted to use them again? You also didn't refute anything I originally stated.
 

Nerokis

Member
Can I be pissed if they discontinue the Wii U? Or would that make me "entitled" or something?

Is this a possibility anyone is taking seriously? Any announced hardware will probably be a Wii U iteration, a 3DS iteration, a new peripheral, or possibly the QoL platform. I suppose there's an abstract chance it could be something more new-y, but even the most extreme possibility (some sort of hybrid?) would very likely function within the Wii U and 3DS ecosystem.

In general, I don't see any reason to anticipate the announcement of a brand new gaming platform. Any of the above things would be more than interesting enough, though.

Last year Nintendo said they weren't doing a true media breifing because they hadn't a ne whardware to show. They aren't gonna do a true media briefing either this year... I vote for rumor BS.

Hmm. Source? It doesn't seem to me that Nintendo's new E3 approach has much to do with new hardware. Perhaps that statement was more of a "it'd require something unique to get us to do a press conference again" kind of thing, and something like a new 3DS model may not really qualify.
 

Teknoman

Member
Give the GamePad a go. It has really changed gaming for me. Even then, it has everything a standard controller has anyway, so no reason not to use it.

I think people just have the misconception that its unwieldy to use as a standard controller, but once you start playing, it feels normal.
 
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