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Valve soft launches Source 2 with Dota 2 port, Dota 2 Xbox reticule found, L4D3 refs
- Thread starter ashecitism
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Stallion Free
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The inaccurate thread title isn't helping.
Castef
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Hey, mr Well Mannered, what's so difficult to understand about not wanting to deal with "custom MOBAs"? That's a terrifying perspective, if you consider what a MOBA is and so on...
(Aaand yes, i know how Dota was born, etc, etc...)
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Deleted member 102362
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Well, it was a pretty low-key delivery.
SolidsnackooFoxhound
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theDeeDubs
Member
This is cynical as hell but sadly feels more true than hyperbolic.
Arcanine55
Neo Member
Terrifying? What is exactly terrifying? I'm pretty sure that a lot of people will enjoy it.
Castef
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ashecitism
Member
Already contacted Nirolak. But if it bothers you that much contact another mod.
The final part makes no sense. How has Valve encouraged the adoption of Early Access titles when it's continually made an effort to hammer home the fact that they're unfinished and potentially buggy products (developers can no longer write their own Early Access descriptions but instead must fill out a question template)?
i think if you have someone in your house holding a gun to your head and making you play games you don't want to play there are bigger problems in your life than custom dota 2 maps
it'd be hilarious to see the confused salt over not being able to actually play it though
it would be a huge blow-up and I'd kill to see the GAF thread(s)
GregLombardi
Member
Because Battle.net as it was launched with Starcraft 2, and the attached red tape that Blizzard put in place was absolute garbage compared to Starcraft 1.
wasn't discoverability really bad, at least at first? i remember people saying it was basically impossible to find anything that wasn't at the top of the most played list
This. I don't think Source 2's engine is about better graphics - right? It's streamlining content creation.
Yup. It's still bad. There's fun games on the arcade but they're so hard to find that nobody plays them. The editor isn't so good either.
I think Valve will pull it off a lot better than Blizz did with SC2.
I have no clue at all what you are talking about, I swear.
The two aren't mutually exclusive. The L4D2 port screenshot that leaked earlier in the year by way of a PowerPoint presentation screenshot showed an obvious visual improvement.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Gotta get that Japanese dev support somehow.
loaf of bread
Member
Someone fill me in because I'm dumb. What does this mean and why is it a megaton.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
hot damn! if dota2 comes to the x1 ill have to buy an x1 way too earlier than i thought i would
The first two sentences quoted in the OP sum up the situation succinctly.
The version of Dota 2 that is packaged with the toolset can be launched independently from Hammer and is running on Source 2, but Dota 2 proper -- the one that people launch from their Steam game libraries -- is still running on the original Source.
GregLombardi
Member
Oh yeah it was horrible. The UI was very confusing and not unified in any way that made sense to the end user, as I recall.
I haven't opened Starcraft 2 in possibly over a year at this point though, so I don't know how it looks right now.
This is how people said it would happen. Half-Life 3 will just be there one day to 0 fanfare.
It's happening.
The internet will collapse.
legacyzero
Banned
Gimme dat L4D3.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Lol. Valve makes people crazy. Their games are incredible and they know it but Steam brings in so much damn money that they're never in a hurry to release anything -- until they're% 100 ready to do so.
Must be nice
Foxy Fox 39
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wheres thge l4d3 refs?
FloorEssence
Neo Member
It would be awful unless they had mouse and keyboard support. I don't know if you've actually played or if you're just getting hyped because its a big game name but multi unit control, targetting, moving your camera to look at another lane, shopping, and well, almost every single aspect would be terrible with a controller, almost downright impossible I would even say.
Interfectum
Member
dota 2 isn't coming to xbox one.
why? every Valve game eventually comes to the consoles.
Maybe is Steam somehow coming to XOne as it did to PS3? Could be interesting.
GregLombardi
Member
MAYBE with the Steam controller.
Maybe.
Even that is questionable for Dota controls. If someone can do it, I'm all for it. But I just have a hard time believing someone would be able to play demonstrably well against a keyboard and mouse.
Interfectum
Member
Dota 2 is about as controller unfriendly as you can get. They would have to change the game so much that it would no longer be "Dota 2." So maybe there will be a "Dota Console Version" but not Dota 2.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Because it would be unplayable. And you can't release a game that REQUIRES a kb/m on a console. Plus MS wouldn't let them away with all the crazy workshop stuff and I believe patching is still a bitch on the consoles due to certification.
It's extremely unlikely we will ever see Dota on a console. It's the same reason they never kept TF2 up to date on Xbox.
It's not going to have cross platform play though is it.
I remember the same being said about Diablo 3 and that worked well on consoles.
Interfectum
Member
Diablo 3 and Dota 2 aren't even in the same league in terms of complexity of controls. Try playing a console game with one foot. That's how Dota 2 would feel on a controller.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Dota 2 would be WAY more difficult with a controller than Diablo 3. There was a way to make Diablo work with a controller but there is NO way to make Dota work with one. Even without cross platform play it just wouldn't be fun. Genuine question but have you played the game?
How would it be difficult? Left analog moves hero, right analog points direction. ABXY has the skills/spells, if its directional just tap, if not hold down for the range. Boom, dota with controller. Actually shoulder/triggers would be better as you could still move and change direction while using skills. Just same with items but have them in buttons or triggers whatever is not used for skils/spells.
Its never going to be as good as mouse + keyboard as the whole game is pretty much desigend around that.