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Rumor: Destiny DLC Plans leak. Major addon "Comet: Plague of Darkness" coming sep. 15
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Not to the level Destiny is, though. The fact the current expansions look like content that should have been at launch, only to "trail" the user into the big one seems very shady, but most of all, entirely lazy.
If you can dig it, fine, but the fact quite a number of people have called it out as lazy should also be considered, too. Something probably happened during development because I don't think a developer openly sits there and goes "we can get more for less when trying to build up our titles". Especially when their expansions really look like the base game with little changes or additions.
This question may not be for this thread, but I'll ask it anyway.
Does the fact that Destiny is a fun shooter at its core along with the fact that you can find online communities to play the game with excuse the how its DLC is being released with such bare bones content, at their price point? What about with how Bungie responds to criticism, with either ignoring complaints or stating that folks are playing the game wrong? What about with the lengthening of the grind players have to do for weapons and light?
As someone who was with Destiny on GAF from Day 1 and stopped playing months before The Dark Below was released, my personal opinion is no. Despite the fun I had with DestinyGAF and making clans for folks that people still try to use to get into the game, I can't say I can support Bungie any longer for Destiny unless the game gets a huge overhaul.
Does the fact that Destiny is a fun shooter at its core along with the fact that you can find online communities to play the game with excuse the how its DLC is being released with such bare bones content, at their price point? What about with how Bungie responds to criticism, with either ignoring complaints or stating that folks are playing the game wrong? What about with the lengthening of the grind players have to do for weapons and light?
As someone who was with Destiny on GAF from Day 1 and stopped playing months before The Dark Below was released, my personal opinion is no. Despite the fun I had with DestinyGAF and making clans for folks that people still try to use to get into the game, I can't say I can support Bungie any longer for Destiny unless the game gets a huge overhaul.
When did I say that explicitly? Other than in your misrepresentation of my thoughts, of course.
What?
The first year of Destiny will be:
Destiny
The Dark Below
The House of Wolves
How in the hell do you think that possibly adds up to "six expansions"?
The Lamonster
Member
lol Destiny threads on gaming side are such a mess. I open it up and first thing I see is a dude asking how many unique posters is in the OT. Bravo, Ein Bear.
Anyway, please take my money. Comet will probably be amazing. My warlock needs arc and my titan needs solar. New vehicles would be nice too.
Anyway, please take my money. Comet will probably be amazing. My warlock needs arc and my titan needs solar. New vehicles would be nice too.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
You clearly stated that a segment of people play Destiny must have some sort of Stockholm Syndrome...
How about this:
Why attacking and being hostile towards a group of gamers who enjoy something you might not... Oh right a HATER!
That has nothing to do with me apparently saying (without me actually saying it) "I hate the game so everyone else must as well." You could at least bother to actually read what we're talking about.
Bingo - you're getting locked out of "story," strikes etc by not picking up these DLC packs.
Also - for the gentleman posting how much "content" he's had out of Destiny you should bare this in mind.
You could also play any game for that amount of time, repeating the same amount of content over and over. It's not necessarily a measure of how "much" content is in the game.
Kor of Memory
Member
I love all the people in this thread doing the math on total cost of all the DLC but then no one bothers to factor in that this is all taking place over 2 full years.
So when you add up your $200ish number, why don't you go ahead and divide that out a bit?
paying $100 a year isn't that much, it's a game and a half.
Hell, if I wanted to think about it like an MMO I'm paying $8.33 a month. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.
So when you add up your $200ish number, why don't you go ahead and divide that out a bit?
paying $100 a year isn't that much, it's a game and a half.
Hell, if I wanted to think about it like an MMO I'm paying $8.33 a month. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.
Ein Bear
Member
See, but again, you're saying that anyone who doesn't like Destiny is 'bitching', 'whining' and a 'hater'.
It's ridiculous, dismissive, language to use against people discussing the many legitimate issues that the game has. There is definitely a lot of good, healthy debate to be had about the merits of the final product, but dismissing everyone who dislikes the game because they aren't posting in the Community thread is ludicrous. Several people have said that there are 600+ unique posters in there, but a quick look at the figures shows that there are fewer than 50 with more than 100 posts. That's ultimately a drop in the ocean compared to GAF's overall userbase, and you shouldn't be surprised to find that your opinion doesn't match that of the majority.
Well Hard mode Crota is coming in January so better get up real quick.
*still needs to get to 30 to even try Crota*
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
How many Raids did Vanilla WoW have at the beginning?
How many patches/updates/changes did it take for WoW to reach to where it is now...
Shit by month end people were re-rolling toons just o squeeze out content from WoW to see the other side from the faction
people forget the 2005 era, everyone think 2015 WoW today is the same WoW from 2005
Many people including Bungie have made it clear it isn't an MMO but that seems to be a more protective statement owing of the lack of substantial content in Destiny than anything else.
"We shouldn't compare it to an actual MMO because that would make Destiny look even worse", or something like that.
Kor of Memory
Member
I'm not agreeing or disagree with what he said, but take note that Launch WoW and WoW 2 months before Burning Crusade was very different.
Over twice as many raids, PvP Battle Grounds. World Bosses, etc...
Bungie and whoever else can say what they want, but in my eyes, I'm playing an MMO, or at the very least, something that fills that niche.
StoppedInTracks
Member
It's VEX VOID from what I can tell.
Destiny's a weird game. I like the game, a lot, but it's the only game I've ever loved where every complaint / dislike I've heard I've nodded and gone...."Yeah, pretty accurate."
Must be the core gameplay loop. As for these expansions, bring 'em, I can afford them.
Everything that needs / is appropriate for matchmaking has matchmaking.
Must be the core gameplay loop. As for these expansions, bring 'em, I can afford them.
Everything that needs / is appropriate for matchmaking has matchmaking.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Sounds good, although September is a long time to wait after March, but it obviously has a lot more content.
It's going to be difficult keeping my interest all the way to then, especially as there's lots of games coming out in between. Though it's managed to keep my interest for 4 months currently, which is generally 3 months and 3 weeks longer than most games. So we'll see. I'll be level 32 shortly though so I'm not sure what there will be to do up till March either. I know the Hard Raid is coming but not sure if that can hold my interest.
It's going to be difficult keeping my interest all the way to then, especially as there's lots of games coming out in between. Though it's managed to keep my interest for 4 months currently, which is generally 3 months and 3 weeks longer than most games. So we'll see. I'll be level 32 shortly though so I'm not sure what there will be to do up till March either. I know the Hard Raid is coming but not sure if that can hold my interest.
But weekly strikes, daily heroic and raids would all be possible with matchmaking.
It's an MMO insomuch as you fill bars, make numbers go up and do...stuff. After that the comparisons to the big boys in the MMO yard (and even some F2P games) only make Destiny look worse. If it meets that need for you then more power to you.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Sounds plausible and based off what we already know follows the pattern set up in the lawsuit documents. I'm all good for all that. Bring on more content Bungie.
Kor of Memory
Member
Well, if they do something similar with Wolves, the Hard raid for it probably wont come out until the beginning of May. That'll keep your attention for 3 or 4 weeks at least.
So then it's just June to Sept. 3 and a half months. If they finally figure out that Trials of Osiris thing, then I think we'll be okay.
Raids? No. Not unless they made a dumbed down LFR version.
Weeklies / Daily Heroics could use them, yes, I forgot about those. Well, Daily Heroics are easy as is, so maybe not, but the Weeklies, sure, why not.
There's a standard for matchmaking for raids in existing MMOs. It's not as if people are pulling this idea from another dimension or something.
It'll be a shame if the bigger DLC doesn't include new locations.
But.. After seeing The Dark Bellow, I really regret my Season Pass purchase. Have absolutely no faith for the next DLC, and unless Bungie deliver a huge overhaul of the game with this Comet expansion, at a very competitive price, I don't see myself buying it.
But.. After seeing The Dark Bellow, I really regret my Season Pass purchase. Have absolutely no faith for the next DLC, and unless Bungie deliver a huge overhaul of the game with this Comet expansion, at a very competitive price, I don't see myself buying it.
But that's not what's been going on.
Instead every topic is drive by snark or people calling other gamers that do enjoy it stolkholm syndrome candidates; as said a few pages back. That's hater, and its prevelent on GAF.
And look, I have many, many issues with the Game and DLC design myself. I also can acknowledge how popular it is and how disappointed that seems to make some people that don't like it.
I don't like RE4 and will argue its a travesty of the IP and conclusive of Capcoms problems with game development on a whole. I know that is a minority position and I don't attack the fans who love it as somehow delusional or lackeys. I know it scratched a itch for them I don't have.
Edit, case in point:
Raids could be done though, VoG isn't difficult but I've not tried the new one yet. If all other MMOs can manage raids with matchmaking, why can't Destiny the "MMO Lite" game?
But yeh, more options for matchmaking the better. If you don't want to or don't need to use it, don't then? It's for us who don't have massive groups of friends on this game and can't be fucked with waiting about using LFG sites.
Kor of Memory
Member
Lol by months end...
Even if you were leveling a mage it would have taken at least 140/160 hours to hit level 60. Leveling in Destiny takes what, 15 hours?
I'm talking WoW at launch, not after PvP patches etc.
LOL you must be joking. If even a game like DCUO can manage some of their convoluted raids with matchmaking, then so can Destiny and it's pseudo MMO FPS "raids".
Nothing in VoG (the raid I've played) is harder than the Binding Coil of Bahamut, FFXIV's most difficult raid, which has matchmaking for some of the Turns. I'm not sure what is so special about Destiny's raids that allow it to not have matchmaking.
Yep. Brain dead LFR's with neutered loot. A mode explicitly designed as a sightseeing mode so that people could at least see the raid and the storyline if they couldn't participate in the real raids.
If they did that, in totality, sure. But the current raids? No, as they're not LFR braindead quality raids.
That ignores cheese, of course.
Hah, they don't, though. LFR's are raids in the very loosest sense of the word.
VoG isn't hard when cheesing the hell out of it or with a real group, you're right. CE is even easier to be honest.
Still a lot harder than an LFR equivalent.
It's not in Bungie's interest. Assuming it's not braindead LFR, what would happen is a bunch of people join and get eviscerated. They then start badmouthing the raid / quality etc. It'd be a horrid experience.
Calcium
Banned
Yeah, but that is probably just going to look like the interior of the Moon. I can't see Hive Ship being anything to get excited about.
Sorry, should have been more specific.
I want to see new planets like Jupiter, Saturn.. Both have Grimoire cards and lore involved.
Or the other locations Bungie had promised, like Chicago on Earth.
SmartWaffles
Member
WoW is around 120-130$ per year plus 40/50$ for the xpac every two years but it also has at least 10x the content so I don't know where are the comparisons come from. Blizzard charge a lot for WoW yes but they also deliver content appropriate for the money. By the end of every expansion the content is usually two or three times larger than launch.
See what story? We're talking about Destiny dude.
I hope somewhere during this they actually add some social tools. Matchmaking would be great. I just got the game and it's boring as fuck to play by myself, but I don't know anyone low level, and I've not seen anyone walking around that's my level. It's pretty abysmal compared to my experiences with MMOs where even if I didn't physically know people I could usually gather a party or find some people to group with in game.
panda-zebra
Banned
That's your honest appraisal of what Bungie set out to achieve with Destiny? Would you care to elaborate, in detail, and cite credible sources to support your claims? I personally think you need to do exactly this if you're going to make such claims, otherwise you're bordering on shitposting.
Personally I think they probably set out to make a fun game that branched out into areas that challenged and interested them. They might not have fulfilled the potential thus far, but that hardly makes their game some kind of brain-washing production line of evangelists all too eager to white knight the interwebz and beyond.
If anything it seems to have worked in a slightly inverse manner... it's the anti-Destiny guys and the constant and deliberate validation of their own opinions that look more like some kind of hamster wheel at this point. I especially feel this is the case when detractors refer to out-dated play mechanics that no longer exist in the current game, that does little to further a position when it's built upon dormant mechanics and information. A thread the other day was rife with it, even from the guys actually trying to offer help to a newbie.
Why would you assume they'd bad mouth the content? This is a bit of a stupid assumption. Is this a problem in other MMOs when people whipe on Raids? They bad mouth the content and blame the dev instead of thinking about why they failed, or is this from personal experience?
I want better lore, period. That's one thing I want to know more about the DLC / expacs, the added lore. It's so jarring, for lack of a better word, that Dinklebot says nothing about VoG when we're inside. Not an intro, no comments, no exposition, nothing.
What's worse is that Eris flat out insults Ghosts and he doesn't react at all.
It's like Bungie forgot that one of the things people loved about Halo was the lore.
Those games also have better social tools in-game for meeting people and grouping up, with the understanding that not everyone wants to go to, say, a GAF OT or DestinyLFG in the off-chance that you find someone you'd actually want to play with.
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