Then the general hype around the character.
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Will we ever see Marvel games with the quality of the Arkham games ?
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Then the general hype around the character.
Karak
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This is sort of what I meant with the Lego and Disney Infinity comment. This seems to be the extent right now.
Be honest, Marvel would only let them do Peter Parker unless they were going with a Shattered Dimensions or Edge of Time approach.
Sadly her hype only really exists with people like us who read her comics. The general public would be left scratching their heads.
Beautiful Ninja
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I just finished Origins and would agree the story is way better than the other 2 Arkham games. They really nailed the characterizations of the cast. Fortunately I played it like a year and a half after release so I played a version with most of the major bugs patched up already. Still ran into some weird stuff, like crimes somehow unsolving themselves, but the game was more than playable enough at this point.
I *do* think her appearances so far have been quite good, but I don't think a game based on a character (well, new version of an existing character) who's been around less than a year is exactly a recipe for success.
Forsaken82
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WB owns rocksteady so don't count on a Marvel developed title from them.
crimzonflame
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Was the Deadpool game any good?
badcrumble
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Right now, I think Disney's much more interested in focusing on quality control for the Star Wars video games (for which some pricey licenses with EA are already contracted out).
I also wouldn't be super surprised to see a maybe-bad, maybe-great Indiana Jones videogame thing happening, thanks to the clear popularity of Uncharted and Tomb Raider. I absolutely do not expect an "Indiana Jones trapped in the wilderness with only bad guys" formula, but something akin to Indy and the Fate of Atlantis with modern AAA production values and some amount of excellent action would be pretty delightful if done well.
I think Disney's happier having very few Marvel videogames than attempting an AAA one and having it do poorly (critically or in sales). When they *do* make a serious attempt, they're absolutely going to be looking for an Arkham level of success.
Karak
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I liked it a great deaL
ArkhamFantasy
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Not really, Activision didn't give it the budget it needed to compete with something like Arkham.
Rising_Hei
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Why Marvel can't get top notch games and movies while DC does is beyond my comprehension.
Are there researchs or general consensus about why this happens? i find it funny
Are there researchs or general consensus about why this happens? i find it funny
ForsakenLotus
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The reason I jokingly used Panzer as an example is because I don't recall playing a game with a standing to flight mechanic like you were describing, other than the Lego game which was very awkward despite being pretty basic. Maybe if there were in air multi-directional dodging?
I'll have to check out the Supes game though to see what you are talking about.
SuperEpicMan
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I would love to see a Captain America game to take inspiration from Arkham Asylum, Wolfenstein and Splinter Cell.
It's dumb fun but suffers from a lot of cut corners (worst in regard to the awful final level and total lack of a final boss).
Memorabilia
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Mine too but those games were possibly overrated for what they offered and perhaps the 3rd suffered some burn out. Just saying its not all metacritic. In fact it should never at all by metacritic based
As for Ironman discussion I think that would be much more interesting if NOT openworld. Not every game needs to be and a finely tuned story/missions based one would do that character much better. I mean having Ironman fly around and collect orbs or stop random fights, or whatever just doesn't seem interesting for that character much.
If its open world in the empty way you're describing then yeah, of course, it'd suck and wouldn't really be any better than the Superman game I referenced from which to steal the excellent flight mechanic.
But, I do think there are ways to do open world right that have nothing to do with collecting orbs or nonsense like that. I'm thinking of an idealized situation where the devs set out to make a "Red Dead" style superhero game with a lot of freedom but also strong storylines. A working economy, an invention mechanic, encounters with various super villains, the occasional helping hand from a friendly Avenger in a cameo, etc.... Doing a fully open world right is probably too ambitious for an Iron Man game though. Something like Arkham City could work though, where its open world but still tightly scripted. I'm with you though...just make a tight flight mechanic with the potential for fights to extend from the sky to the ground and back and now we're talkin. Put that mechanic in an action-adventure game with a reasonably good story and even something smaller in scope (more akin to Asylum) could be awesome.I agree partially, but as someone else stated in this thread, I would like to see more games than just Batman, DC has such potential but Batman is always so emphasised, I'd like to see more of other characters: Green Arrow, Green Lantern, The Flash, Superman, or hell, dare I say what gameplay possibilities you'd get with Aquaman? (but no one likes under water combat, I get it... hmph)
Karak
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In our video we discuss our general conclusion that its a mix of extreme risk aversion to a popular brand, lack of a dev with an open schedule that has the chops, and a questionable market for anything not open world when many superheros would make an open world game questionable at best. Because the lack of games was before star wars was even purchased by Disney so it can't all be blamed on Star Wars Though of course the jump in popularity was post SW announcements.
Those are just a couple theories but I am sure its a mix of many
Righto. A contained large location with a hub but a normal mission structure would be great for Ironman but lets be honest everyone out there wants TRUE open world. Even at GDC everyone we talked to mentioned it as a sticking point for games whether talking about Superhero games or otherwise. It was a really buzzkill to hear the difficulties many experienced when talking about the games they wanted to make.If its open world in the empty way you're describing then yeah, of course, it'd suck and wouldn't really be any better than the Superman game I referenced from which to steal the excellent flight mechanic.
family_guy
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Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way.
peanutbutterlatte
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Haha slow down there quickfire. And there's basically the Arkham titles. Let's not pretend there's some fabled Superman bestseller out there.
quickwhips
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i liked ultimate spiderman game.
Karak
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I will repeat what I said in my video about Deadpool.
I hope for a second title(though probably no way) the one a while ago was good if you didn't foolishly think it was going to topple the big comic book heroes currently. It had some issues but it was grounded in some fun gameplay and with the movie coming I would love to see that again.
Arrow could easily be a great game though he rarely does any kind of normal cleanup of the streets anymore so once again I would love a non open world game with a heavy emphasis on characterization but I can see a studio NOT wanting to have a game alongside the show currently.
Flash was discussed in the video but he is a difficult character to lock down as his main special power has to be reflected in the game without putting everyone in slow motion as that would be the opposite of Flash even if he sees the world that way. DC Universe did an ok job with super speed as a skill but the moment fighting occurs it all falls apart logistically. I would like to see someone try especially with his CSI style sidejob
I hope for a second title(though probably no way) the one a while ago was good if you didn't foolishly think it was going to topple the big comic book heroes currently. It had some issues but it was grounded in some fun gameplay and with the movie coming I would love to see that again.
Arrow could easily be a great game though he rarely does any kind of normal cleanup of the streets anymore so once again I would love a non open world game with a heavy emphasis on characterization but I can see a studio NOT wanting to have a game alongside the show currently.
Flash was discussed in the video but he is a difficult character to lock down as his main special power has to be reflected in the game without putting everyone in slow motion as that would be the opposite of Flash even if he sees the world that way. DC Universe did an ok job with super speed as a skill but the moment fighting occurs it all falls apart logistically. I would like to see someone try especially with his CSI style sidejob
There already is
But WB's TT Games already makes LEGO Marvel Superheroes and LEGO Avengers games (releasing this summer iirc).
Karak
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But WB's TT Games already makes LEGO Marvel Superheroes and LEGO Avengers games.
Hmm that's right isn't it. Maybe in some way that is also an issue. Maybe ONLY ok in Lego games.
Messofanego
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Remember this cancelled Marvel Avengers first person game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpISS-R2G7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpISS-R2G7E
Karak
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Sho_Nuff82
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The Infinity Wars/Episode 9 crossover when KH3 launches in 2019 will be epic.
But WB's TT Games already makes LEGO Marvel Superheroes and LEGO Avengers games.
LEGO has a relatively long history of cross-branding. Other than those, I don't see WBIE making games based on other companies' IP - especially not Marvel, when they could be using those resources to make DC games.
ForsakenLotus
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I've been thinking, how awesome would an action/courtroom puzzle game (DanganRonpa, Ace Attorney) Daredevil game be? I know if they made a Daredevil game it would like just be an action game (still could be very good), but man just the thought of the potential there is exciting.
Memorabilia
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Yeah you really should check it out. Unless something crazy is going on with pricing it should be ultra-cheap.
Just to be clear my memory of it is the overall game blows.
I remember thinking it almost felt like a proof of concept demo to sell someone on the idea they could make a great flying mechanic. And then ran out of ideas or money or time. I doubt they ran out of money since EA published this so my bet is time was the issue since it was pushed to release at the same time the 2006 movie DVD dropped. Basically, if you look at it like its a "Supes flying simulator" and don't expect much out of the open world aspects (beat up robots, save civilians, fight boss, rinse/repeat) then you'll probably have fun for a awhile. I think I'm gonna fire it up n fly around a bit to refresh my memory. HellofaMouse
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id be more interested in an arkham quality game of any major marvel hero (spiderman/xmen/ironman etc) than the arkham games tbh, i was never that into dc anyway, even batman.
BUT, arent spiderman games pretty decent since the beenox games took over? didnt play em myself but always heard good things.
BUT, arent spiderman games pretty decent since the beenox games took over? didnt play em myself but always heard good things.
Holundrian
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I'd go for Platinum Hulk
superman is dc mainstream. same with green lantern, green arrow, the flash and martian manhunter.
schaft0620
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I feel like I am the only person alive who thought that ASM2 on the PS4 wasnt far off from the Batman games.
SuperEpicMan
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What lol
Doug Heffernan
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AmaterasuOni
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LEGO Marvel is pretty good.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Have people seriously forgotten the Capcom Marvel games. I'm not even talking about the fighters. Hell any Marvel game almost in the 16 bit generation was good. What the hell did DC have then?
Drilbit777
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A Daredevil game from Rocksteady would be really cool, especially since they could take advantage of his heightened senses to use in gameplay.
Wreck-It Ralph
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That's basically what the Captain America movie game was. It wasn't great, but also wasn't terrible. I enjoyed it enough to finish it, but don't really remember much about it.
Xaero Gravity
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I looooved The Punisher one in arcades.
People really need to cool it on the Spider-Gwen obsession... The costume is cool, the art is good, the comic is decent, but hardly worth a game. Not yet anyway.
I'm sorry, what?
I'd replace X-Men with Guardians given the current situation.
When I imagine a Daredevil game, I imagine Assassin's Creed.
the fuck is up with that Hawkeye?
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