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So besides the mysterious possible Zygarde forme, there's a new Pokemon too?

Macka

Member
We're not meant to have perfect Pokémon, that's the thing. I think 3 guaranteed max IVs is a happy compromise. One I wouldn't have made in Game Freak's position. Though this is a discussion for another topic.
Whether we are meant to have them or not - many people do get perfect legendaries one way or another, and this makes it harder for newer or less obsessive fans to enter the competitive scene. I think having them locked at 5 perfect stats would be a pretty good idea exclusively for legendaries tbh. I mean...IV's exist as a way to have some variation between Pokemon of the same species, right? But many of these legendary Pokemon are supposed to be the only ones of their kind anyway, so they might as well all have the same stats to go along with that.
 

JoeM86

Member
Interesting. Browsing through 2ch etc. and I'm seeing that some people who saw the movie state the blob has a red gem on it. No idea if true
 

Pokemaniac

Member
So this blob thing has me wondering something. What if Game Freak's remake team is working on Pokemon Z right now intending to launch early next year while the main team is working on Gen VII intending to launch either late next year or early 2017.

Otherwise, it seems a little early to start teasing Gen VII Pokemon.
 

Theorymon

Member
So this blob thing has me wondering something. What if Game Freak's remake team is working on Pokemon Z right now intending to launch early next year while the main team is working on Gen VII intending to launch either late next year or early 2017.

Otherwise, it seems a little early to start teasing Gen VII Pokemon.

I highly doubt a third version and a new gen will come out in the same year, that wouldn't make much business sense.

If I recall, Munchlax was revealed rather early (like 2 years before DP), so its possible Nintendo, TPC, and Gamefreak just want to start marketing gen 7 early.

I'm honestly surprised that nobody has taken a quick shot or video of it.

If I recall, this actually happened with Victini, and the person that took the shot got in HUGE trouble for it! That's why we're just getting sketches atm.
 

Dice//

Banned
Uh huh. I understand some of these words.

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Wh...why is there an Isabelle silicone mousepad...???
 

icy_eagle

Member
Wait there's earnestly a serious discussion going on about the scribbles op posted?

I feel like I'm missing out on something...
 

Dryk

Member
Whether we are meant to have them or not - many people do get perfect legendaries one way or another, and this makes it harder for newer or less obsessive fans to enter the competitive scene. I think having them locked at 5 perfect stats would be a pretty good idea exclusively for legendaries tbh. I mean...IV's exist as a way to have some variation between Pokemon of the same species, right? But many of these legendary Pokemon are supposed to be the only ones of their kind anyway, so they might as well all have the same stats to go along with that.
Yeah I don't understand how a "That guy's is just straight up better than yours because he got lucky, deal with it" is supposed to fly in a competitive game. The mythical kid with the extra powerful Zapdos was a nice idea when Pokemon was confined to the schoolyard, not so much nowadays.
 

Theorymon

Member
Wait there's earnestly a serious discussion going on about the scribbles op posted?

I feel like I'm missing out on something...

Well, people who have seen the new Pokemon movie are reporting that they saw this thing teased for the next movie, and the last time anyone took a picture of a new Pokemon tease, they got in huge trouble by Nintendo... So these aren't ordinary scribbles! This is basically like a makeshift Pokemon reveal in a way!

Now what this thing really is, what generation its going to be in, what role it plays... that's a big mystery!
 

Zubz

Banned
I really find it amusing that we have to speculate this tease from crude sketches; if this wasn't a Japanese movie/Nintendo or TPC related, the whole scene probably would've leaked in high quality by now!

As of right now, it really just sounds like some weird snot Pokémon with a K. Rool eye, but I can see it being a Gen 7 tease. Granted, I'd be more inclined to believe that if we've seen the Gen 6.5 game, but I don't know what it'd be a new Form/Mega of. Maybe it is Zygarde, and it's small to juxtapose the collosal Form we think was teased?
 

Pokemaniac

Member
I highly doubt a third version and a new gen will come out in the same year, that wouldn't make much business sense.

If I recall, Munchlax was revealed rather early (like 2 years before DP), so its possible Nintendo, TPC, and Gamefreak just want to start marketing gen 7 early.




If I recall, this actually happened with Victini, and the person that took the shot got in HUGE trouble for it! That's why we're just getting sketches atm.

I'm pretty sure the only reason why the leap up to Gen IV lasted two years is because Diamond and Pearl were delayed. The only reason I can think for them starting teasing Gen VII with next year's movie is because they want to release Gen VII by Spring 2017.
 
I'm pretty sure the only reason why the leap up to Gen IV lasted two years is because Diamond and Pearl were delayed. The only reason I can think for them starting teasing Gen VII with next year's movie is because they want to release Gen VII by Spring 2017.
Diamond and Pearl were meant to come out at the end of 2005, and Munchlax was in the Deoxys movie in 2004. If this is a new Pokemon, and it is to tease Gen VII, there's no reason why Gen VII has to be out before Autumn 2017; even had DP gone to plan, it still would have been a year and a half.
 

Pokemaniac

Member
Diamond and Pearl were meant to come out at the end of 2005, and Munchlax was in the Deoxys movie in 2004. If this is a new Pokemon, and it is to tease Gen VII, there's no reason why Gen VII has to be out before Autumn 2017; even had DP gone to plan, it still would have been a year and a half.

Right, forgot that there were actually 3 Gen III movies with Gen IV Pokemon. It would still be a bit abnormally early still a bit early, though, just not unprecedented..
 
Diamond and Pearl were meant to come out at the end of 2005, and Munchlax was in the Deoxys movie in 2004. If this is a new Pokemon, and it is to tease Gen VII, there's no reason why Gen VII has to be out before Autumn 2017; even had DP gone to plan, it still would have been a year and a half.

At the same time with the way they've changed their marketing with Gens V and VI I feel like they don't want to reveal new Pokemon long before the hype train for the game starts. I just feel like a Gen VII Pokemon in the 2016 movie would mean it'd be coming within 1 year of the movie.
 

DNAbro

Member
At the same time with the way they've changed their marketing with Gens V and VI I feel like they don't want to reveal new Pokemon long before the hype train for the game starts. I just feel like a Gen VII Pokemon in the 2016 movie would mean it'd be coming within 1 year of the movie.

which is very possible.

Pokemon NX coming up!
 
If they make Z, I think they need to fill the noticeably small X/Y roster since it was about 30 Pokemon short or so compare to all the past gens which usually added around 100 or so Pokemon each gen. Doubt that would happen though.
 

BedBison

Neo Member
I think it's pretty much impossible to tell when gen 7 is gonna land without know Nintendo's plans for the next handheld, so I think this is probably Zygarde related. Pokemon Z/X2Y2 will probably come out Fall 2016 for the 3DS. I just can't see them teasing gen 7 already if they can't really reveal the games because it's on a platform that isn't revealed yet. If gen 7 comes out in 2017, while not unheard of, this seems really early to tease it.
 
Nvm fake.

Even if a new Pokemon is revealed in the movie. It's likely not the last Gen VI movie. The last movie of a generation always stars new Pokemon but still takes place in the current one. Also, I wouldn't expect the next game to be on NX unless it was Gen VII, especially if the next game launches very close to the NX. They'll want to keep compatibility between generations and we've seen this before with Crystal, Emerald and BW2.
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Damn you Gamefreak!

Every time I'm out, you pull me back in! New NEW Pokemon get me hype as fuck, I'm not kidding. I consistently love it!

JAPAN TIME IS BACK, BABY!
 
Nvm fake.

Even if a new Pokemon is revealed in the movie. It's likely not the last Gen VI movie. The last movie of a generation always stars new Pokemon but still takes place in the current one. Also, I wouldn't expect the next game to be on NX unless it was Gen VII, especially if the next game launches very close to the NX. They'll want to keep compatibility between generations and we've seen this before with Crystal, Emerald and BW2.

I don't think many are suggesting that the NEXT game is Gen VII, all signs point to the next game coming out in February of 2016, which would be before this movie even.
I think we could very well see Pokemon releases shift to the first half of the year for a bit, with Gen VII starting in Spring of 2017 on NX, a year-ish after the final Gen VI game(February 2016).
Just throwing dates out there I think the following release schedule would make sense(This isn't me "predicting" or anything, just giving an example).
Z- February 2016
Gen VII- Spring 2017
D/P Remakes- between Fall 2018 and Spring 2019
Final Gen VII game- between Fall 2019 and Spring 2020
 
If they make Z, I think they need to fill the noticeably small X/Y roster since it was about 30 Pokemon short or so compare to all the past gens which usually added around 100 or so Pokemon each gen. Doubt that would happen though.
Yeah I'd like for that to be the case and they just have a small amount of new pokemon in Z. It could be a way to add a bit more umph to the 20th anniversary of the series.
 
That's the image I saw a bit earlier. Apparently, it was sent via pm to a Bulbagarden user's site and the guy who sent it couldn't provide anything else. It could easily be shopped.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah it's probably the part where the green blob was coming out of the O of the Pokemon title... yeah that's just gross lol
 
I hope we're not seeing Gen 7 on 3DS. Especially if the NX is around the corner, I don't want to wait until 2019 or something for Gen 8 on the next system . :/

It's Black & White all over again in that case, jeez, the 3DS was only a few months away when those came out, we finally got X & Y in Oct 2013, almost three years after launch. :/
 

Pokemaniac

Member
I hope we're not seeing Gen 7 on 3DS. Especially if the NX is around the corner, I don't want to wait until 2019 or something for Gen 8 on the next system . :/

It's Black & White all over again in that case, jeez, the 3DS was only a few months away when those came out, we finally got X & Y in Oct 2013, almost three years after launch. :/

Game Freak does have a habit of giving each handheld its own generation, including the stopgap ones (Gen II on GBC, Gen V on DSi).

That said, I do think they may break the pattern this time. The NX handheld could potentially be out only a few months after Z releases.

I posted because I remember people posting similar stuff for movies.

There are pretty good reasons why we normally only get sketches of these things. Japan takes movie piracy pretty seriously from what I've heard. I don't know exactly what NeoGaf's policy on these pictures is, but it seems pretty likely to me that they would be treated similarly to magazine scans.

But, like I said before, this is a situation where you should probably PM a mod to make sure it's okay first. They're the ones who decide whether or not it's okay.
 
If they make Z, I think they need to fill the noticeably small X/Y roster since it was about 30 Pokemon short or so compare to all the past gens which usually added around 100 or so Pokemon each gen. Doubt that would happen though.
Mega Evos indeed count as new Pokémon, so XY actually introduced 100 new Pokémon total. ORAS added another 21 so gen VI has already introduced a whopping 121 new Pokémon so far, more than gen II and IV. And now another 2 new ones that have been teased. Gen VI just keeps on giving <3
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Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
They never teased "seemingly pokemon but aren't" in older movies right, like the abomination in movie 4 or those cube robots in the rayquaza film?
 
Mega Evos indeed count as new Pokémon, so XY actually introduced 100 new Pokémon total. ORAS added another 21 so gen VI has already introduced a whopping 121 new Pokémon so far, more than gen II and IV. And now another 2 new ones that have been teased. Gen VI just keeps on giving <3
Too bad it couldn't be bothered to give dex entries
 
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