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Harry Potter [Mafia] |OT| “Yer a werewolf, ‘Arry”

Because a neutral isn't scum. A TWE lynch does not move us closer to meeting our win condition of no remaining death eaters. It may move us closer via the horcrux but their importance remains unclear, especially with Blarg being our main source of information.

That's were you're wrong. A Netural who can side with with either team is a threat. Scum isn't gonna kill him so we have to. Sure the counter argument is that he's posioned but I contend that he might be lying about the poison itself or the danger he's in. Next you might say, well if he doesn't die then we'll lynch him, but I say if he's lying then he has a reason to lie and by that point it might be too late to lynch him. Shit for all we know there might be a way to reverse the effects of posion from the posioner. Might sound crazy but it wouldn't be the only role in the game with two abilities a night so far.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
I'm not entirely sold on horcruxes being an alternative win condition. I think there is much we don't know about them at this time. I will completely trust the information Blarg has given us completely when I see his role PM. Not before that. I believe the broad strokes of what he has said but wouldn't be surprised to find that he has been embellishing details for an extra flourish or to spice things up.

Fair enough. Speaking of Blarg I wonder where he is, he said he had a huge post like...2 days ago.

Position on horcruxes- like I said before, I doubt blarg is being entirely truthful. There's probably some element of blarg where he's trying to make everyone- town, neutral, scum- wonder what the hell is going on.

I think someone else mentioned it earlier, and I find this idea pretty probable- perhaps people have items, but not necessarily all of them are horcruxes.

Now, the fact that blarg had a ring and that our role pms may not explicitly be telling us everything has a put a damper to my idea, but I still believe the idea of an alternate win condition to be a little absurd.

What, we destroy all the horcruxes but half the scum team is alive but town wins??? Makes zero sense.

Then do you think they are essential to winning for Town? Or are they just 'there' as things that Scum can possibly use?

I agree it sounds a little odd but considering how hard they are to find, retrieve, and destroy I see no other reason for them being there other than for Town to win by going through all that trouble. It also kind of falls under 'don't look into the flavor text too much', lore-wise it wouldn't make sense for Town to win but gameplay-wise it kind of works.

That's were you're wrong. A Netural who can side with with either team is a threat. Scum isn't gonna kill him so we have to. Sure the counter argument is that he's posioned but I contend that he might be lying about the poison itself or the danger he's in. Next you might say, well if he doesn't die then we'll lynch him, but I say if he's lying then he has a reason to lie and by that point it might be too late to lynch him. Shit for all we know there might be a way to reverse the effects of posion from the posioner. Might sound crazy but it wouldn't be the only role in the game with two abilities a night so far.

That would make sense if the Poisoner was Neutral. Why would a Scum Poisoner have the option to save someone and skip a Night kill?
 

Kawl_USC

Member
That's were you're wrong. A Netural who can side with with either team is a threat. Scum isn't gonna kill him so we have to. Sure the counter argument is that he's posioned but I contend that he might be lying about the poison itself or the danger he's in. Next you might say, well if he doesn't die then we'll lynch him, but I say if he's lying then he has a reason to lie and by that point it might be too late to lynch him. Shit for all we know there might be a way to reverse the effects of posion from the posioner. Might sound crazy but it wouldn't be the only role in the game with two abilities a night so far.

What reason would he have had for fake claiming that he was poisoned? If it's not true it's just putting a target on his back that puts him on a timeline that is very specifically counter to his victory condition. And if this is some huge gambit, why offer himself up as a lynch target? For the off chance that town will decide to not lynch him and he can shenanigan away for 2 nights? Which likely would have the been the case if he just kept quiet today? It seems like a wholly unnecessary and complicated move to be honest.
 
Because a neutral isn't scum. A TWE lynch does not move us closer to meeting our win condition of no remaining death eaters. It may move us closer via the horcrux but their importance remains unclear, especially with Blarg being our main source of information.

Yup, pretty much how I feel at this situation. Lynching TWE (whether he's hiding something or not, I believe he is both neutral and poisoned) will not help us nearly as much as trying to lynch a scum player, aside from dealing with the Horcrux (which we know too little about at this stage for me to think relying on them is a good idea). We've already lynched one person who we pretty much all believed was town (Rats), so I'd rather not lynch somebody else who we generally feel isn't scum.

That's were you're wrong. A Netural who can side with with either team is a threat. Scum isn't gonna kill him so we have to. Sure the counter argument is that he's posioned but I contend that he might be lying about the poison itself or the danger he's in. Next you might say, well if he doesn't die then we'll lynch him, but I say if he's lying then he has a reason to lie and by that point it might be too late to lynch him. Shit for all we know there might be a way to reverse the effects of posion from the posioner. Might sound crazy but it wouldn't be the only role in the game with two abilities a night so far.

He could side with scum, or he could side with us. If he decides to team up with town, as he has at least said he would, his power could come in handy (assuming the Horcruxes work as an alternative win condition, which is not definite at this point). Is there risk to keeping him around? Absolutely. Is there a benefit to keeping him around? Maybe. I'm not going to rely on him or his supposed power, but lynching him really sounds like a waste to me, particularly if it turns out that he is telling the truth.
 

Rynam

Member
For the two votes on Crab (Exodu5 and rynam) what is y'all's reasoning? I see that Rynams vote was from early in the day when the switcher shenanigans were still actively being discussed, but Exodu5 you put a more recent vote on him.

I leave my vote on him because I still don't trust him 100% and i saw him visiting Swamped on N1. Yes I know that there are other possibilitys how swamped could've died on N1, either with this "ninja" person, or a second switcher. But I have no Idea who else I should vote today.
 
Fair enough. Speaking of Blarg I wonder where he is, he said he had a huge post like...2 days ago.



Then do you think they are essential to winning for Town? Or are they just 'there' as things that Scum can possibly use?

I agree it sounds a little odd but considering how hard they are to find, retrieve, and destroy I see no other reason for them being there other than for Town to win by going through all that trouble. It also kind of falls under 'don't look into the flavor text too much', lore-wise it wouldn't make sense for Town to win but gameplay-wise it kind of works.

2 main possibilities:

1. red herring that mods put in the game
2. something only certain roles can utilize/interact with, and therefore someone only those players should worry about

the horcrux discussion actually sort of reminds me of the constant discussion of the Necrominicon in Cthulhu, and ultimately without more info we shouldn't waste too much brainpower on it
 

Sawneeks

Banned
2 main possibilities:

1. red herring that mods put in the game
2. something only certain roles can utilize/interact with, and therefore someone only those players should worry about

the horcrux discussion actually sort of reminds me of the constant discussion of the Necrominicon in Cthulhu, and ultimately without more info we shouldn't waste too much brainpower on it

Yeah it's starting to turn into Dangan's 'Fight Club' levels of nonsense, haha.

As much as I would like to move onto a different topic it seems that the Horcruxes are actually the main point in why TWE should be lynched. So it ultimately comes down to trying to lynch someone who we think is Scum or lynch TWE and find out more about Horcruxes ( possibly ) and get rid of the Thief.
 
That would make sense if the Poisoner was Neutral. Why would a Scum Poisoner have the option to save someone and skip a Night kill?

You don't see a possible reason for a 2nd command with multiple switchers and at least 1 Netural in play? There's a very real chance of accidentally hitting other scum in this setup.

What reason would he have had for fake claiming that he was poisoned? If it's not true it's just putting a target on his back that puts him on a timeline that is very specifically counter to his victory condition. And if this is some huge gambit, why offer himself up as a lynch target? For the off chance that town will decide to not lynch him and he can shenanigan away for 2 nights? Which likely would have the been the case if he just kept quiet today? It seems like a wholly unnecessary and complicated move to be honest.

It is overly complicated but not impossible. I'm actually leaning towards posion not being a big deal to his role. Offering himself is a gambit but not as unheard off as you might imagine. Blarg himself tried as much in Star Wars. It's possible this is a ruse designed to put him in a safe position with both sides of the playing field. Starting a long scale game if chicken between Town and Scum. Before you know it he'll have meet his win condition or we'll be endgame with a Netural still in play.


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He could side with scum, or he could side with us. If he decides to team up with town, as he has at least said he would, his power could come in handy (assuming the Horcruxes work as an alternative win condition, which is not definite at this point). Is there risk to keeping him around? Absolutely. Is there a benefit to keeping him around? Maybe. I'm not going to rely on him or his supposed power, but lynching him really sounds like a waste to me, particularly if it turns out that he is telling the truth.

You of all people should fully understand the situation and danger we may be in. Even with aa netural role that fully benefited town in Cuthulu you still lied your way to victory. I just don't see the benefit of keeping him. For all know there might be a town their or Horcrux acquirer (Harry Potter). That's on top of the fact that we don't know if scum gas a way to steal or manipulate them. Even Blarg has been shady because he fears the possibility of scum doing something with these items. I don't see how keeping him helps town, but I see so many ways it could hurt us.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Thanks you spidery pest!

Looking over that list it seems we've got a very nice smattering of votes spread out nicely with no real bandwagon (although TWE is a hot topic and LoC has 3 votes coming in semi bunched fashion).

For the two votes on Crab (Exodu5 and rynam) what is y'all's reasoning? I see that Rynams vote was from early in the day when the switcher shenanigans were still actively being discussed, but Exodu5 you put a more recent vote on him.

Coming off his ban he was a lower visibility player, so immediately coming out claiming to have been switched doesn't exactly strike me as suspicious. All it ensured was that there was a lengthy conversation about night actions and that he was squarely in the middle of it. For a scum player, especially if he was a scum switcher, I think laying low would have been the more logical course of action.

I voted for Crab because there were no decent lynch targets and he was spotted as the only person who visited Swamped Night 1. Seemed better than a no lynch, especially since almost no one was posting at the time. I was just trying to get the ball rolling.

I have no strong feelings currently. I think TWE is a wasted lynch. LoC has been suspicious to me on several occasions which I've voiced during day 2.

I'll revise my vote in the morning after I have time to think things through and see what else gets brought up by that point.
 
I don't like leaving neutrals alive. Spare TWE, we lynch someone else who flips town, someone dies tonight, we're down two or more townies with TWE still the main point of discussion.
 

Retroid

Member
Here's my feelings on TheWorthyEdge. I believe he is telling the truth about being poisoned which also leads me to believe he is most likely neutral, like he says. What I'm not sure about is the Horcrux you obtained. Can you clarify if you were told about the Horcruxes in your role PM or when you did your action?
 
Why shouldn't .you vote for me? As I said the acquisitions right now are difficult to speak towards. Mainly because its a recurring vote from Sawneeks that I've already addressed(it was nothing last time too) and apparent bandwagoning onto the Sawneeks vote. I can't counter baseless suspicion. I may not be the most active player in this game but I've tried to allign all of my choices with what's best for town. I've tried to give input on everything and voice all of my opinions. I'm sorry if I've come off as scum but I promise you lynching me today is a mistake. I'm not sure if twe is the ultimate best choice for today but I have no alternatives right now that look good. Worst comes to worst come back to me tomorrow if our prs don't pull in any info. A Netural death may be safe and boring but its better than possibly hitting a power role. I just need a little trust for a little longer. I am town.

If the idea of this aggression was to get me to role claim however you're gonna leave disappointed.
 

Enker

Member
As noted earlier, I am not in favor of lynching TWE for reasons Kawl also appears to agree with.

So then who? Retroid reminds me of the way a certain Corgi played Archer. Trying to stall by asking for votes to lynch Rats, wanting to No Lynch D2, and now not offering a suggestion for what to do while waiting on TWE for more answers that lead us to the same “Do we or don’t we” call. Stall tactics that make me uneasy.

Vote: Retroid

I am not around from now until the deadline, so this is my vote. Good luck with the Blarg uberpost 30 minutes before the end.
 

Retroid

Member
I didn't want to NL Day 2, that was Day 1. I was worried that there would be consequences, and I thought there was a better way of going about it rather than just saying, my role is bad for town, but I can't tell you what it is.

I've been inactive this day, I'm sorry. I want more information from TWE before I decide who to lynch, and honestly, if it's not TWE, I'm not sure who. The information from TWE that I want is regarding his knowledge of the Horcruxes.

One piece of information I left out is that I was role blocked today. The reason I left it out is I'm not sure why I was role blocked.
 
I sadly won't be able to post until the deadline. I'd like to vote on somebody, but I don't want to look like I'm just jumping on a bandwagon at the last minute. So until then, sweet dreams.
 

Retroid

Member
On Day 2, I was hesitant after kingkitty revealed himself as who he was. This is because I was worried about what might happen after we kill him. Blargonaut said something which caused me to believe him over kingkitty.

I am making this vote as I'm worried I won't make it on until much after TWE has answered my question. I will try to get on in the morning but I'm heading to bed now, if there is no reply, I will be changing my vote.

Vote: TheWorthyEdge
 

Sawneeks

Banned
Why shouldn't .you vote for me? As I said the acquisitions right now are difficult to speak towards. Mainly because its a recurring vote from Sawneeks that I've already addressed(it was nothing last time too) and apparent bandwagoning onto the Sawneeks vote. I can't counter baseless suspicion. I may not be the most active player in this game but I've tried to allign all of my choices with what's best for town. I've tried to give input on everything and voice all of my opinions. I'm sorry if I've come off as scum but I promise you lynching me today is a mistake. I'm not sure if twe is the ultimate best choice for today but I have no alternatives right now that look good. Worst comes to worst come back to me tomorrow if our prs don't pull in any info. A Netural death may be safe and boring but its better than possibly hitting a power role. I just need a little trust for a little longer. I am town.

If the idea of this aggression was to get me to role claim however you're gonna leave disappointed.

My vote for you right now actually kind of goes back to my argument earlier as to why we shouldn't lynch TWE yet. My entire reasoning for voting for you is based on a gut read I've had since Day 1 because there is no other info available. Because of how Day 1 went with two people offering themselves up to lynch it was probably ridiculously easy for Scum to blend in and kill a Townie. Day 2 is no different as King drops his fake claim so fast and just offers himself up for a lynch. Again, easy way for Scum to just hide in plain sight because of the 'obvious' lynch choice. No conflict, no opposing sides, just a simple lynch.

TWE is going to be literally the same thing. Again. Because of the lack of any conflict in votes or anything hardly any of us have an idea of who to vote for, a feeling almost everyone here has voiced in the past few hours. If TWE is lynched we will be going into Day 4 without hardly any evidence towards a person's scumminess. All for some slight info on Horcruxes????

Eh, whatever. I'm dead at the end of this Night phase unless something happens anyway but I still want to see Town win. So, barring any unforeseen circumstances, I'm keeping my vote on LoC because I want my last vote to be against someone I actually think is Scum.
 

nin1000

Banned
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Votes to roach majority: 12.
 
I didn't want to NL Day 2, that was Day 1. I was worried that there would be consequences, and I thought there was a better way of going about it rather than just saying, my role is bad for town, but I can't tell you what it is.

I've been inactive this day, I'm sorry. I want more information from TWE before I decide who to lynch, and honestly, if it's not TWE, I'm not sure who. The information from TWE that I want is regarding his knowledge of the Horcruxes.

One piece of information I left out is that I was role blocked today. The reason I left it out is I'm not sure why I was role blocked.

Hmm

If you got that info...

Then who was roleblocked Day 1? And didn't come out to give us that info...

That means we're missing a roleblock and punishment that happened night 1, and a crucio that happened night 2...
 
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Welcome back, <Proxie>. You have been away for: ~418 hrs.
NOTE: If you haven't already, please input your name with "name: <YourName>".


You take a seat beside Smuggle as it begins.

Mr. Mist:
"Welcome, new faces! I trust you're all eager to start learning. But, before we truly dive into your first lesson, I'd like to start with an old story:

'Roving the wind-blasted plains, a renowned leader of fighters commanded her very own cavalry consort, rogues recruited from all corners of the continent; thirty-seven lieutenants, each with eleven fighters under themselves.

The youthful brigand famously rode into every raid standing on her saddle, so as to better view her playing field. A simple broad sash was tied around the waist of her cotton tunic; dyed, denoting her captaincy, and off it, within easy reach, a satchel of rawhide.

Within this satchel was an assortment of folded fabrics, dyed in all the myriad colours of life and unlife; some quaint squares, some flowing streamers, some of exquisite weave, some, mere rags. But their state mattered not to her, only their company.

For, upon the sight of any one or combination of flag unfurled between her fingers in the wind, her soldiers immediately executed the matching manoeuvre; such was their drilled memory of her intent. With tactical prowess and remote reflex combined, her host was unrivaled.

One bright day, she and her thirty-seven were assembled, readying themselves and their steeds for their regular practice. However, this day, she motioned for them to stop, and so they did. She waved for them to sit in a semi-circle before her, and so they did.

Leaning against the flank of her horse, she asked the attentive faces, ‘I have a voice to answer, yet none of you have ever asked me; why do I myself bear no arms or armour into battle? Why only my banners, you familiars? You gossip amongst yourselves, but never approach to ask me. Why is this so?’

And so the thirty-seven replied:

‘Because you are our superior.’
‘Because we respect you.’
‘Because it would be impolite.’
‘Because it would slight you.’
‘Because it would be embarrassing.’
‘Because you are intimidating.’
‘Because you have a reputation to uphold.’
‘Because you are busy.’
‘Because in the end, it does not matter.’
‘Because you would not tell us anyway.’
‘Because it is a vital secret to you.’
‘Because you value your innocence.’
‘Because you do not wish to dirty your hands.'
‘Because you cannot abide the bloodshed.'
‘Because you fear death.'
‘Because you are brave.'
‘Because the present is beneath you.'
‘Because the past is behind you.'
'Because there must be limits to what we do.'
‘Because you understand your strengths.'
‘Because you understand your weaknesses.'
‘Because you understand us.'
‘Because you must inspire us for the eventual better.'
‘Because you must lead by example and not by deed.'
'Because they are unimportant to what you do.'
'Because they would only slow you down.'
'Because you simply choose not to.'
‘Because you simply cannot.'
‘Because you do not want to wield them to get what we need.'
‘Because you do not need to wield them to get what you want.'
‘Because you need not.'
'Because we wield them for you.'
‘Because we are all you need.'
'Because with us, you want for nothing.'
'Because you have trained us well.'
‘Because you do not want us to.’
‘Because you do not need us too.’

After listening to each of the thirty-seven state their reason why, she could not help but laugh.

‘It is touching to know that you would all rather suffer by me than ask me, truly.’'"

>> how is this alchemy?

I don't understand that.

>> look around

Class is in session.

>> ask: how is this alchemy?

Of whom? Your rhetorical reflection receives an equally silent reply.

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>> ask class: how is this alchemy?

To be an anti-hero is no mean feat. Facing worlds, you did what you had to to survive and to thrive, and you are none the lesser for it.

Next to you, Smuggle feigns nonexistence, like the rest of them.

Your Fire Game increased.

Mr. Mist:
"Who said that? Ah... well, firstly, what's your personal take from this particular tale? I trust you have a vague idea of what alchemy entails; matching and mixing ingredients for effect, at its most base definition. How do *you* think it relates? Or not, even?"

You are gauged in expectation.

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Welcome back, <Proxie>. You have been away for: ~418 hrs.
NOTE: If you haven't already, please input your name with "name: <YourName>".


You take a seat beside Smuggle as it begins.

Mr. Mist:
"Welcome, new faces! I trust you're all eager to start learning. But, before we truly dive into your first lesson, I'd like to start with an old story:

'Roving the wind-blasted plains, a renowned leader of fighters commanded her very own cavalry consort, rogues recruited from all corners of the continent; thirty-seven lieutenants, each with eleven fighters under themselves.

The youthful brigand famously rode into every raid standing on her saddle, so as to better view her playing field. A simple broad sash was tied around the waist of her cotton tunic; dyed, denoting her captaincy, and off it, within easy reach, a satchel of rawhide.

Within this satchel was an assortment of folded fabrics, dyed in all the myriad colours of life and unlife; some quaint squares, some flowing streamers, some of exquisite weave, some, mere rags. But their state mattered not to her, only their company.

For, upon the sight of any one or combination of flag unfurled between her fingers in the wind, her soldiers immediately executed the matching manoeuvre; such was their drilled memory of her intent. With tactical prowess and remote reflex combined, her host was unrivaled.

One bright day, she and her thirty-seven were assembled, readying themselves and their steeds for their regular practice. However, this day, she motioned for them to stop, and so they did. She waved for them to sit in a semi-circle before her, and so they did.

Leaning against the flank of her horse, she asked the attentive faces, ‘I have a voice to answer, yet none of you have ever asked me; why do I myself bear no arms or armour into battle? Why only my banners, you familiars? You gossip amongst yourselves, but never approach to ask me. Why is this so?’

And so the thirty-seven replied:

‘Because you are our superior.’
‘Because we respect you.’
‘Because it would be impolite.’
‘Because it would slight you.’
‘Because it would be embarrassing.’
‘Because you are intimidating.’
‘Because you have a reputation to uphold.’
‘Because you are busy.’
‘Because in the end, it does not matter.’
‘Because you would not tell us anyway.’
‘Because it is a vital secret to you.’
‘Because you value your innocence.’
‘Because you do not wish to dirty your hands.'
‘Because you cannot abide the bloodshed.'
‘Because you fear death.'
‘Because you are brave.'
‘Because the present is beneath you.'
‘Because the past is behind you.'
'Because there must be limits to what we do.'
‘Because you understand your strengths.'
‘Because you understand your weaknesses.'
‘Because you understand us.'
‘Because you must inspire us for the eventual better.'
‘Because you must lead by example and not by deed.'
'Because they are unimportant to what you do.'
'Because they would only slow you down.'
'Because you simply choose not to.'
‘Because you simply cannot.'
‘Because you do not want to wield them to get what we need.'
‘Because you do not need to wield them to get what you want.'
‘Because you need not.'
'Because we wield them for you.'
‘Because we are all you need.'
'Because with us, you want for nothing.'
'Because you have trained us well.'
‘Because you do not want us to.’
‘Because you do not need us too.’

After listening to each of the thirty-seven state their reason why, she could not help but laugh.

‘It is touching to know that you would all rather suffer by me than ask me, truly.’'"

>> how is this alchemy?

I don't understand that.

>> look around

Class is in session.

>> ask: how is this alchemy?

Of whom? Your rhetorical reflection receives an equally silent reply.

>>
>> ask class: how is this alchemy?

To be an anti-hero is no mean feat. Facing worlds, you did what you had to to survive and to thrive, and you are none the lesser for it.

Next to you, Smuggle feigns nonexistence, like the rest of them.

Your Fire Game increased.

Mr. Mist:
"Who said that? Ah... well, firstly, what's your personal take from this particular tale? I trust you have a vague idea of what alchemy entails; matching and mixing ingredients for effect, at its most base definition. How do *you* think it relates? Or not, even?"

You are gauged in expectation.

>> say:
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Back to this shit again

I assume the teacher is crab, the false town leader

Let's just hope you get hit with stupefy from now on, you actually speak coherently that way
 
I agree with Sawneeks that TWE is the safe lynch. We remove a talking point and a potential anti-town element but get nothing in terms of voting patterns.

The alternative is a half-hearted bandwagon and a claim, which may end up starting another bandwagon and another claim. It's a terrible strategy and can reveal more PR's than scum.

By the way Sawneeks are you going to claim today or will we just find out when you die and flip tonight?

Retroid was roleblocked last night? No one claimed being Crucio'ed today, for what it's worth. But if he's scum I doubt he reveals that.
 
My vote for you right now actually kind of goes back to my argument earlier as to why we shouldn't lynch TWE yet. My entire reasoning for voting for you is based on a gut read I've had since Day 1 because there is no other info available. Because of how Day 1 went with two people offering themselves up to lynch it was probably ridiculously easy for Scum to blend in and kill a Townie. Day 2 is no different as King drops his fake claim so fast and just offers himself up for a lynch. Again, easy way for Scum to just hide in plain sight because of the 'obvious' lynch choice. No conflict, no opposing sides, just a simple lynch.

TWE is going to be literally the same thing. Again. Because of the lack of any conflict in votes or anything hardly any of us have an idea of who to vote for, a feeling almost everyone here has voiced in the past few hours. If TWE is lynched we will be going into Day 4 without hardly any evidence towards a person's scumminess. All for some slight info on Horcruxes????

Eh, whatever. I'm dead at the end of this Night phase unless something happens anyway but I still want to see Town win. So, barring any unforeseen circumstances, I'm keeping my vote on LoC because I want my last vote to be against someone I actually think is Scum.

Eh. You admit that there's no conflict and thus a dull couple of days but you're also throwing that in my face as a scum acquisition. You say I take no hard stances yet here I am arguing against 4 different people on a twe lynch. Is it my fault that the last two days have been easy? I take the stances that I think are best for town. Easy or not, but a dull day is still dull. I can't change that. I dont like stretched out circle discussion.
 
One more thing...
There really is a pattern going on with these days.
Day 1: Rats- "I'm a town role that could potentially fuck over town! Lynch me!" ~lynched~

Day 2: KK- "Ah fuck it, I give up. I'm Voldemort. Just lynch me now."
~lynched~

And now we have a NEUTRAL to complete the cycle today with TWE. The thing here is that he's going to die in two more nights, so why lynch him now? We can switch TWE tonight just in case his horcrux might be stolen. This pattern is getting too comfy anyway. I'm not saying no one should be lynched today, but TWE shouldn't be the safe pick everyone can bandwagon on.

That is all.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
Eh. You admit that there's no conflict and thus a dull couple of days but you're also throwing that in my face as a scum acquisition. You say I take no hard stances yet here I am arguing against 4 different people on a twe lynch. Is it my fault that the last two days have been easy? I take the stances that I think are best for town. Easy or not, but a dull day is still dull. I can't change that. I dont like stretched out circle discussion.

Like I said, my vote on you is a gut read and not much more. I didn't mean it as this whole thing was the accusation against you I just had nowhere else to really say it. Honestly I don't really think you will get lynched, most people seem set on TWE or else don't know where to go. I'm honestly voting where I feel I need to and if you feel that someone, either myself or others, are bandwagoning just call them out on it.

By the way Sawneeks are you going to claim today or will we just find out when you die and flip tonight?

Nah. There is only like 9 or so hours left and a claim wouldn't do anything.

also I'm hoping for a tiny chance I can be cured so.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
One more, for good luck.

01 [m] Retroid - New - Even quieter than yesterday. My read still stands at Town only because I don't think a whole Scum Team would let you go this quiet. Still, I'm not confident in your alignment anymore
02 [m] MagnumBoy20xx - New - Still has some good questions and responses. Town.
03 [m] Kawl_USC - New - I still think you are Town for the same reasons as Day 2.
04 [m] Rynam - New - Watcher - Town because of your claim. I don't believe Scum would have risked that kind of gambit this early. Also all of the people you called out corroborated with you.
05 [m] TheExodu5 - New - Not reading Scum here but not reading a strong Town vibe either.
07 [m] Flatearthpandas - New - I didn't say it earlier but welcome! It's a shame I probably will not have the chance to play with you this game. Still, from the little you posted you seem fairly Townie-like to me.
08 [f] bananaspaceprincess - My feelings are mixed and I can't really explain why. I still feel you are Town but the way you answer some questions feel odd to me. Still, I'm getting more Town than Scum from you.
09 [m] TheWorthyEdge - Thief - I believe your Neutral claim as well as you being poisoned ( ;___;7 ). Whether you work for Town or not is the question, one that won't be answered until your next move.
10 [m] Gorlak - Sucks about the Stupify curse on you today! For what it's worth I do believe you are Town, a very aggressive Townie, but Pro-Hogwarts nonetheless.
11 [m] Hyperactivity - My gut says Scum but my head says Town. You remind a lot of Splinter from Dangan: providing info for Town but actually being Scum. Very unsure.
12 [m] Flame_AC - Waay quieter today than yesterday. You fall under the same category as Retroid; not quite sure of your alignment but I feel you would be Town.
13 [-] Enker - Still reading light Scum vibes here.
14 [m] TheAwesomePossum - Scum?? The holding off on a vote to avoid it 'looking like a bandwagon' is what gets me here. Vote where you believe you need to whether it looks bandwagony or not. As long as you can defend your position adequately it shouldn't matter.
16 [m] Matt Attack - Leaning Town. You don't post a lot but what you do say comes across as a Town player.
18 [m] Crab - Your action Night 1 still bothers me but considering the killer wasn't spotted Night 2 either I guess the Ninja theory might be right. Your actions so far haven't felt Scummy either.
20 [m] Blargonaut - Harry Potter MVP award. I hope I get to play more games with you!
21 [m] Kalor - Quiet to a point where I can't accurately get a read, which is weird because Matt Attack I was able to pin down fairly quickly. Scum hiding in the quiet?
22 [m] TheGoddamn - Switcher - I believe Miracle therefore I have to believe you.
23 [m] Lord of Castamere - Scum. I've explained why before.
24 [m] Christina Mackenzie - Also quieter today??? Who is that now? You, Retroid, and Flame_AC? I had you pinned as Town but now it's muddier and I'm not as confident in it.
25 [m] Lone_Prodigy - Also a rather quiet player but that's how you play. Reading Town here.
26 [m] roytheone - I didn't touch on it earlier but I'm interested to see what you have to say on the next Day phase. Unless that was a cruel joke about posting a dead spider than you actually might not be able to speak about something and I want to know what that is. My read is now slightly more Town although you're not the Town Roy I played with in GAFia Mafia.
27 [m] Miracle - Switcher 2 - I still believe you are the overeager Townie but now I'm actually fairly confident in that. Both you and TheG are now tied together so if one of you is lying then both of you are, meaning I don't think Scum would risk 2 members on something like that.
28 [f] Sawneeks

And with that I'm heading out for the Night. Unless another cure is out there for Poison I'm dead after this Night Phase. If I do somehow end up fine after this Night I do ask that that I'm not auto-lynched at the start of the next Day so I can at least defend myself. I'm going to be partying the day away at Disneyland when it starts so if I'm not here, that's why.

But seeing as I probably won't make it through the Night, it was fun playing with you guys! I know you can beat the Death Eaters!

Also, to whoever poisoned me:

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i'm going to find you, beat you up, steal your lunch money, and ride away on your bicycle
 
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  • Expecting Death last Night, I attempted to Destroy the Marvolo Ring Horcrux I possessed, instead of exercising futility by investigating someone before my assumed imminent demise.
  • In hindsight, I should have Protected Burbeting last Night. In a game at the very borders of true Role Madness and at such an early stage within it, the odds of a Switcher or Doctor defending me after I had outed myself as an Investigator who also busted a high-profile target were quite high. But, I couldn't risk dying without having destroyed the Horcrux I had, so I acted against those odds. Putting aside his now vindicated claim of being Snape, it should have been obvious to me that a friendly Switcher worth their salt would choose to swap me with the at-the-time unconfirmed Miller last Night, thereby solving two problems at once by simultaneously saving the Investigator and subjecting the Miller to a verification-by-fire. I was also complacent in assuming no one would notice the admittedly super-solvable breadcrumb I left hinting at my possession of the Ring Horcrux. I should have known there'd be some sort of Thief Role present due to the existence of a game mechanic involving items, so I should have never dropped that clue. These mistakes may cost us dearly later.
  • However, the Ring was stolen from me before my Destroy Command took effect; evidence of an item Thief Role of unknown alignment among us, perhaps even a Role specifically tailored to acquire the Horcruxes from others, but, whether I was robbed for good or Bad, I do not know. Personally, I find it most likely that it was a Death Eater-aligned player who took the Ring from me, in order to despicably safeguard it from its rightful destruction and so forestall Hogwarts from its shortcut Win. *NEW DEVELOPMENT by way of TheWorthyEdge
  • Let me reiterate that the terms of the secondary Hogwarts Win condition as stated in my Role PM entail eliminating "V" AND all the Horcruxes, compared to the base Hogwarts Win condition of eliminating all Death Eater members.
  • I will finally officially confirm that I was indeed swapped with someone last Night, once and only once; the flavour text in my received post-Night 2 status report PM today stated that someone had played a "prank" on me as I "felt my feet leave the feet (sic)" (that's supposed to say 'floor', right?). And yes, this is indeed the same flavour text that Rynam stated he received after he was swapped with someone during Night 1.
  • I personally have official host confirmation via the post-Night 2 status report PM, that the theft of the Ring could have happened either before or after I was swapped; either way, this seems to be a soft confirmation of TheWorthyEdge's claim that his Steal ability is totally unaffected by Switchers displacing the player he originally targets.
  • The Death Eaters most likely targeted me for killing last Night, out of a lust for revenge over "V"; after what I had done to him, I think it's safe to assume that I was and still am their highest priority target for a fatal hit.
  • Yet, Burbeting "Burb" Miller was last Night's casualty; which, leads me to assume that I was swapped with him before Death came knocking.
  • Sawneeks alleges that she is still Poisoned; according to her, she will succumb to her affliction within two Nights from Night 1, which is tonight (Night 3).
  • TheWorthyEdge alleges that he was Poisoned last Night, and will perish within two Nights, on Night 4.
  • Gorlak alleges here---INCOMPLETE, NO LINK EMBEDDED---that he was stricken with the Stupefy spell last Night, as I was on Night 1. After my display, there is the possibility that he could be faking it as an indirect means to garner trust via feinting, as it is easy to assume that such an inherently anti-Hogwarts-therefore-likely-Death Eater power in its effect would never be cast upon a Death Eater. Although, there is precedent for a Town-aligned Silencer variant established in previous games. Nonetheless, since no one else appears to be Stupefied today, it is likely that he is telling the truth about his affliction.
  • roytheone alleges here---INCOMPLETE, NO LINK EMBEDDED---that he was "Punished" last Night with a mark on his hand that states, "I must not tell lies," and states that it was a red-highlighted Command that affected him. It sounds like the work of former Headmistress Dolores Umbridge, a rather unpleasant 'Ministry of Magic' official who historically despises me.
  • As to the apparent absence of a Crucio victim today; as I've said before, my Role PM specifically informs me that (paraphrased) were I to positively identify "V" through investigation, something could happen, and that I should be cautious in my search. The fact that there has been no torture victim today, or at least one yet to come forward, suggests that the Crucio hex that hit me was a direct consequence of me investigating kingkitty "V" during Night 1. It was his defense, a singular trap I likely sprung, no more. I don't believe I'm special in regards to being informed of what I was targeted with every Night, either. Thus, I tentatively suggest that there is no Death Eater-aligned Investigator among us, or at least, no one who actively uses Crucio as a means of interrogation.
  • Retroid claims here---INCOMPLETE, NO LINK EMBEDDED---to have been Role-blocked last Night.
  • Crab claims here---INCOMPLETE, NO LINK EMBEDDED---that he was swapped with someone last Night; says that the flavour text he received regarding being swapped, entailed him being "pushed into a wardrobe and transported to someone else's room". I do not personally recall either of the current Switcher claimants (TheGoddamn and Miracle) or anyone else allegedly targeted by one of their switches, having corroborated this particular snippet of flavour text after Crab's statement.
  • Note: one of the hosts himself seems to have insinuated an official confirmation of some kind of double act that occurred last Night, through a little song sang before the Day even began: "Double, Double, Toil & Trouble". I'm assuming this alludes to the two switches that occurred last Night, courtesy of our Switcher claimant pair of TheGoddamn and Miracle.
  • Rynam claims here and here to be a Watcher (Mad-Eye Moody), alignment unconfirmed (states Ministry of Magic/3rd-party of unknown motives); claims that he watched Swamped on Night 1 and saw Crab visit her, then, claims to have watched me last Night, and says he saw TheGoddamn visit me.
  • The apparent presence of Dolores Umbridge and Rynam's claim to be Mad-Eye Moody raises some questions; is there an independent 'Ministry of Magic' party here, with motives of their own? Rynam "Mad-Eye" himself seems to verify this, here and here. If not, are these individuals simply part of the Hogwarts defense? Although, considering our establishment's history with Umbridge, she is likely Neutral and seeking her own form of revenge, with her very own Win condition: to mark/Punish a certain number of students? And, perhaps, Moody may be part of an independent 'Order of the Phoenix' faction with secret motives for the greater good; but, I myself was not informed or was stated to be part of such a group in my Role PM, and so I find this last theory of mine the least likely of all.
  • Rynam claims here---INCOMPLETE, NO LINK EMBEDDED---that he was swapped with someone on Night 1; says that the flavour text he received regarding being swapped, entailed his "feet left the feet (sic)" due to a "prank". This is flavour text resulting from being a victim of a switch, which I aforementioned personally corroborate.
  • TheGoddamn claims here---INCOMPLETE, NO LINK EMBEDDED---to be a Switcher (Sirius Black) (altered name-claim to Fred Weasley instead, after Miracle claimed to be his brother George), alignment unconfirmed (according to book lore, likely Hogwarts/Town); claims to have swapped Rynam and Burbeting on Night 1, and claims to have swapped me and Burbeting last Night.
  • TheGoddamn had originally claimed that his Role flavour text stated that as Sirius Black, he is a "Marauder" and the "original prankster"; which, as flavour, corresponded with the switch-power's flavour text (that the switch was a "prank") that his apparent victims receive in their post-Night status report PM—Rynam had shared this snippet of text with us before TheGoddamn had made this Role-claim, which corresponds TheGoddamn's claim; also, I received the same "prank" flavour text when I was switched last Night, and since TheGoddamn claims responsibility for that, I can thus also personally correspond TheGoddamn's claim---INCOMPLETE DRAFT
  • Miracle claims here---INCOMPLETE, NO LINK EMBEDDED---to be a second Switcher (George Weasley), alignment unconfirmed (according to book lore, likely Hogwarts/Town); claims to have swapped--- INCOMPLETE DRAFT
  • *TheWorthyEdge claims here---INCOMPLETE, NO LINK EMBEDDED---to be a Thief (Mundungus Fletcher), alignment unconfirmed (states that he is Neutral); claims to be the one who stole my Ring Horcrux from me last Night. He states here that his Steal ability is unaffected by Switchers swapping his chosen target with another player; whoever he targets has their item, if they have any, robbed from them without fail---INCOMPLETE DRAFT
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So, let's have an overview of the pieces on the game board, and their apparent allegiances:

  1. [m] Retroid — unknown
  2. [m] MagnumBoy20xx — unknown
  3. [m] Kawl_USC — unknown
  4. [m] Rynam — MINISTRY OF MAGIC; Alastor 'Mad-Eye' Moody, 3rd-party Watcher... claimed D3
  5. [m] TheExodu5 — unknown
  6. [f] Swamped — HOGWARTS; Hannah Abbot, Town Citizen (eliminated N1)
  7. [m] Arkos [m] flatearthpandas — unknown
  8. [f] bananaspaceprincess — unknown
  9. [m] TheWorthyEdge — NEUTRAL; Mundungus Fletcher, Neutral Thief... claimed D3 {{poisoned N2, succumbs N4}}
  10. [m] Gorlak — unknown {{Stupefied}}
  11. [m] Hyperactivity — unknown
  12. [m] Flame_AC — unknown
  13. [-] Enker — unknown
  14. [m] TheAwesomePossum — unknown
  15. [m] Burbeting — HOGWARTS; Professor Severus Snape, Town Poison Doctor/Full-fledged Detective/Eavesdrop/Miller (eliminated N2)
  16. [m] Matt Attack — unknown
  17. [m] Rats Off To Ya — HOGWARTS; Former Professor Remus Lupin, Town Compulsive Bulletproof Random Killer (eliminated D1)
  18. [m] Crab — unknown
  19. [m] kingkitty — DEATH EATER; "V", Mafia Bulletproof Triggered (eliminated D2)
  20. [m] Blargonaut — HOGWARTS; Headmaster Albus Dumbledore, Town Investigator/Doctor... claimed D2
  21. [m] Kalor — unknown
  22. [m] TheGoddamn — HOGWARTS; Fred Weasley, Town Switcher... claimed D3
  23. [m] Lord of Castamere — unknown
  24. [m] Christina Mackenzie — unknown
  25. [m] Lone_Prodigy — unknown
  26. [m] roytheone — unknown
  27. [m] Zippedpinhead [m] Miracle — HOGWARTS; George Weasley, Town Switcher... claimed D3
  28. [f] Sawneeks — unknown {{poisoned N1, succumbs N3}}

That makes:

20 unknowns
1 Hogwarts---INCOMPLETE DRAFT



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Perhaps this summary---INCOMPLETE DRAFT of the consequences of last Night and today's events will help you all inform your vote decisions before the Day's end. Or it may be completely redundant to you, if you've done your homework thoroughly. In any case, it's here if you need it.

Note that in it, I've finally taken the liberty of filling-in the blanks of information resultant from my lack of informing of you all of what happened to me last Night, so I believe it's worth a skim, at least.

However I am only human, after all; if you notice I've left out or wrongly described anything, kindly please rectify my omission or mistake.

I do not know whether I'll be present by the deadline today, but I'll try to outline my reasons for voting to eliminate Crab before the end, if I can. If not, and Crab escapes for today, then so be it. Last-minute traction for the support of a cause is understandably hard to come by, although it may be frightfully and mysteriously sudden in its sweep when it is least expected.

There is also a reads list I was in the process of detailing, but I doubt I'll be able to post it in time.

GLHF

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Kalor

Member
Let me reiterate that the terms of the secondary Hogwarts Win condition as stated in my Role PM entail eliminating "V" AND all the Horcruxes, compared to the base Hogwarts Win condition of eliminating all Death Eater members.

It's good to hear the full terms of the alternate win condition in that "V" was included as well. I guess that rules out the idea someone had that he can be resurrected, though that was unlikely in the first place.
 
Huh, so that's how Blarg makes his posts

One main issue I have with your theory on the crucio spell- Voldemort died, and there wasn't really anything I recall from his role pm to indicate your theory
 
So, it doesn't seem like we will get a lot more information from TWE. It really feels like he gave up and I'm with Hyper here, the possibility that he will either mess around this night or do nothing at all does not make me feel good. I might change my mind if he turns up and actually talks to us some more until the day ends.

The theory that we should not lynch TWE and instead try to find true scum today only makes sense if anybody has an actual clue about anybody being scum. And I am talking about more than gut feeling here. I'd rather see a neutral go today than a townie (weather he has powers or not)

I guess we will already lose two townies tonight. (Sawneeks and ??) And if we don't lynch TWE the same will happen two nights from now.

The only other player I would be willing to lynch today is Crab because we can still assume that he was caught in the act N1. I kinda have the opposite feeling with Crab than I have with worthy.

I believe Worthy but don't trust him and Crab on the other hand I tend to trust but there are things that I just don't believe.

So those are my top lynch candidates for today. I will vote TWE now but if he chimes in today and for some reason changes my mind about trusting him I will change my vote to Crab.

Vote: TheWorthyEdge
 

roytheone

Member
So the vote seems to go between crab, TWE, LoC and retroid. Kawl also has some votes on him but those were mostly "I want him to speak up" votes, and I think Kawl did speak up so if those votes stay on Kawl I would find that very weird.

Crab: The main argument here seems to be Crab getting spotted visiting Swamped N1, nobody seems to actually find Crab his posts to be suspicious. I agree with this. Crab visiting swamped is defiantly a cause for concern, but he never striked me as suspicious based on what he says during the day. I don't think we should lynch him right now, but we defiantly should keep an eye on him.

TWE: I don't trust him. I don't think he is telling us the whole story. And we can never be sure that he will indeed act in town's best interest, since we have 0 leverage on him. Lynching him will give us some clarification about his role and probably also about the horcrux, which is helpful. On the other hand, I do believe he is indeed poisoned, so in a sense we would be wasting a opportunity to find scum since he will die anyway. Also, having a big bandwagon against a neutral will help nobody except scum, it would be very easy to hide behind. Yes, not lynching him also gives scum the possibility to get the ring for themselves, but it is still unclear how big of a deal that really is. Even though I do not trust him one bit, lynching him may not be the best option here.

LoC: Suspicious. D1 he said he trusted Burb his role claim, but still wanted to lynch him to avoid hitting a PR. Since day 1 can be unpredictable this could be a scum move trying to create a safe lynch to hide behind. Day 2 he had that roleclaim mistake with Sawneeks, could be just a mistake or could be a serious try at getting a roleclaim knowing he could hide behind "it was a mistake" if he got called out. He also brought up kitty having some kind of last resort lynch defense, maybe a last ditch effort to try and safe kitty? He also had that breakdown where he called Exodu5 "obvious scum" but didn't gave any reasons, he still hasn't elaborate on that I think. Today he had that weird "pre typed" post that was already outdated when he posted it, even though he posted it 45 minutes after day start. Plenty of time to adapt it, and he didn't even said it was pretyped until AFTER people called him out. Non of this is extremely suspicious, but it adds up.

Retroid: I actually agreed with his "don't lynch burb" stance on day 1, even though I disagree the only other logical option was a no lynch (until rats came with his revelation of course). He did seem very hesitant to vote for Rats, even going as far as to call for people to also withdraw their votes on him and consider "a new path of action". Maybe he wanted rats to claim so that scum could see if they indeed could misuse rats power for themselves? Day 2 he was actively proposing to NOT lynch kitty that day, and keeping him around for at least a day longer. We now know Kitty had to be found first before he got his full power,so leaving Kittymort alive for one more night would have given scum the opportunity to activate Kitty, and we have no idea how powerful lord kittymort would have become in that case. Day 3 he was very inactive, and he only recently started to post and they are some very safe questions regarding TWE. He also kept him being roleblocked from us until he got some votes on him because....he wasn't sure why he got role blocked? That is not a good reason IMO. Also, he votes TWE, and promises that if there isn't any response from TWE....he will change his vote. That makes NO sense whatsoever.

Looking at these 4 lynch candidates, I think LoC and Retroid are the most suspicious. LoC has done a bit more weird stuff, but he also posted more than Retroid. But the big thing to me is this post of retroid:

This is hypothetical, but lynching someone else/no one would allow us to get another read from Dumbledore if someone had a power to save him, although that's doubtful. I'm not saying I don't want to get rid of kingkitty, just not today necessarily. I think my logic is flawed though.

Now knowing lord kittymort had to be activated first, this gives me a really bad feeling. So:

VOTE: Retroid


Also, this post of Possum stood out to me:

One more thing...
There really is a pattern going on with these days.
Day 1: Rats- "I'm a town role that could potentially fuck over town! Lynch me!" ~lynched~

Day 2: KK- "Ah fuck it, I give up. I'm Voldemort. Just lynch me now."
~lynched~

And now we have a NEUTRAL to complete the cycle today with TWE. The thing here is that he's going to die in two more nights, so why lynch him now? We can switch TWE tonight just in case his horcrux might be stolen. This pattern is getting too comfy anyway. I'm not saying no one should be lynched today, but TWE shouldn't be the safe pick everyone can bandwagon on.

That is all.

You would rather use our switch to protect a neutral thief with a horcrux than using it to protect a confirmed cop? What?
 

Kawl_USC

Member
Retroid: I actually agreed with his "don't lynch burb" stance on day 1, even though I disagree the only other logical option was a no lynch (until rats came with his revelation of course). He did seem very hesitant to vote for Rats, even going as far as to call for people to also withdraw their votes on him and consider "a new path of action". Maybe he wanted rats to claim so that scum could see if they indeed could misuse rats power for themselves? Day 2 he was actively proposing to NOT lynch kitty that day, and keeping him around for at least a day longer. We now know Kitty had to be found first before he got his full power,so leaving Kittymort alive for one more night would have given scum the opportunity to activate Kitty, and we have no idea how powerful lord kittymort would have become in that case. Day 3 he was very inactive, and he only recently started to post and they are some very safe questions regarding TWE. He also kept him being roleblocked from us until he got some votes on him because....he wasn't sure why he got role blocked? That is not a good reason IMO. Also, he votes TWE, and promises that if there isn't any response from TWE....he will change his vote. That makes NO sense whatsoever.

Looking at these 4 lynch candidates, I think LoC and Retroid are the most suspicious. LoC has done a bit more weird stuff, but he also posted more than Retroid. But the big thing to me is this post of retroid:



Now knowing lord kittymort had to be activated first, this gives me a really bad feeling. So:

VOTE: Retroid

That's the post that set off my suspicions about Retroid (which I had lumped into his reaction to the HP role claim). Thanks for taking the time to find it and bring it front and center. I'm finally back home after all the traveling for the holidays so in the future I should be more able to throw together big post quoting multiple people.

Since I thjnk that the death eaters knew they had to search for Voldemort (from KKs role pm) they probably knew they had a lot to gain if they could buy even one night where he was activated. It could be an unfortunate coincidence, but retroids post of I'm not saying we don't eventually lynch him, but maybe let's keep him alive for one more night seems to line up with what a DE would want awfully well.
 
That's a good point. I think I mentioned in my first post that I found retroid suspicious, but that was mostly due to inactivity today and that in that same post he suggested no lynch yet again. The rest slipped by me.

I still think a known party and horcrux destruction is a better lynch but if it is agreed upon that TWE is okay alive, Retroid is my go-to. Crab would be next for the N1 shenanigans. End of day is the middle of the night for me but I'll hold my vote until right before I hit the hay.
 
CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Retroid (4)
Kawl_USC .2081
MagnumBoy20xx .2110
Enker .2166
roytheone .2187

TheWorthyEdge (4)
roytheone .1987 .2086
Enker .1992 .2005
Hyperactivity .2030
Lord of Castamere .2137
Retroid .2169
Bananaspaceprincess .2186

Lord of Castamere (3)
Sawneeks .2082
Gorlak .2089
Miracle .2103

Crab (3)
Rynam .1618
TheGoddamn .1643 .1748
Sawneeks .1833 .1846
TheExodu5 .1985
Blargonaut .2174

Kawl_USC (2)
Kalor .1951
Flame_AC .1963

Gorlak (1)
Miracle .1774 .1788
Crab .1948

Blargonaut (1)
Crab .1738 .1948
Hyperactivity .1743 .1910
Christina Mackenzie .1757

Matt Attack (0)
Lord of Castamere .1580 .2137

TheGoddamn (0)
Flame_AC .1701 .1963
Lone_Prodigy .1712 .1872
Crab .1719 .1726


No active vote for Day 3:
flatearthpandas
Lone_Prodigy (has previously voted)
Matt Attack
TheAwesomePossum
TheGoddamn (has previously voted)
TheWorthyEdge

Time Left:
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I'm kind of leaning towards a TheWorthyEdge vote at the moment.

I don't believe he's being entirely truthful with his role. Whether that's bad or good for Hogwarts, I'm unsure.

Did anyone ever figure out what the Daily Prophet does?
 
Here's my feelings on TheWorthyEdge. I believe he is telling the truth about being poisoned which also leads me to believe he is most likely neutral, like he says. What I'm not sure about is the Horcrux you obtained. Can you clarify if you were told about the Horcruxes in your role PM or when you did your action?

I wasn't told anything about Horcruxes in my role PM. They are completely absent from my Role altogether. When I asked if I could destroy it myself Salva said no, the item has no use to you. I then proceeded to ask if I did or was lynched if the Horcrux was to be destroyed. He said yes.
 
Retroid?

retroid is weird. I mentioned this yesterday when talking about him- it feels like scum would deliberately avoid some of things he does, it feels almost too obvious, actually makes me think he's more town

ofc, I don't know if it's a good idea to just trust him to be town because he made some weird plays, we should come back to that later. But for now I'm surprised this bandwagon is tied and in the lead with the TWE one, seems rather abrupt
 

Retroid

Member
Just woke up from my sleep last night, I see TWE hasn't answered my question, I will keep my vote on him for the time being, but will lean towards a switch on Crab.

Usually I don't have the chance to get on in the morning before voting due to work, I've made the time today. My motivations on Day 1 for keeping Burb were that I believed him, and as for wanting Rats to reveal, this was the very first day and I had no clue what to expect. I was really worried something bad might come from killing him, so to get a proper role reveal beforehand would have eased that, although there were enough people who didn't feel that same way that it didn't happen. On Day 2, that was my same reasoning for suggesting to not kill kingkitty, I know looking back on it that it was dumb, but I was worried something worse would come from killing than keeping at that moment.
 

Retroid

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Okay, TWE did answer my question. I trust him, and will be keeping my vote for today, I'll try to make it on one more time and see what Blargonaut has to say. I've gotta get ready for work now, sorry.
 
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Deleted member 231381

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This is pretty frustrating. If you all trust me because of my actions but are going to vote me anyway because I was seen visiting Swamped, then please don't vote. This is a bastard game. It is 8/10 on the bastard scale and with a double-deputy-switcher that's probably a low-ball figure. There is bound to be all sorts of weird shit going on at night that we don't know about, especially as we've only had 2 nights to draw conclusions on. This is not a game about sitting around doing nothing all day waiting for the PRs to magically deliver us; this is a game about reading people's intentions and trying to work out their motivations. If what you've picked up of my intentions is that I'm trying to find scum and what you've picked up of my motivations is a town win, then vote someone else.
 
VOTE: Crab

I think this is the best bet right now. Because, and I'm going against what I said before, I'm dying no matter what because of poison. It's in town's best interest to fish out other Deatheaters so with a vote on me you don't really learn anything besides what I've already told you. I have the Horcrux and I know what I'm gonna do with it, if I don't get to do what I want it's still going to be destroyed. Chances are if you want someone to watch over night watch me and see if I'm roleblocked, if I am you may be able to find who it was.
 

Kawl_USC

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Okay, TWE did answer my question. I trust him, and will be keeping my vote for today, I'll try to make it on one more time and see what Blargonaut has to say. I've gotta get ready for work now, sorry.

Will be keeping your vote for today? Meaning you are keeping it on TWE? That doesn't make sense with your statement on trusting him so I guess I'm misunderstanding.

We still have 4 people with no vote and about that many who have votes on people outside of the leaders. Time is starting to wind down people, let's try to avoid last minute shenanigans if we can.
 
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Deleted member 231381

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Okay, if we get to 2 hours left before the deadline and I'm within 2 votes of the leader I'm claiming. I really don't want to do this, so please don't make me.
 

Retroid

Member
Will be keeping your vote for today? Meaning you are keeping it on TWE? That doesn't make sense with your statement on trusting him so I guess I'm misunderstanding.

We still have 4 people with no vote and about that many who have votes on people outside of the leaders. Time is starting to wind down people, let's try to avoid last minute shenanigans if we can.

Last post I can make for a while, TWE wanted people to vote for him. Therefore, I trust him (I already did about what he had said for the most part), so I will follow what he wants. That has now changed it seems though...
 
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