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[fluffydelusions]

I think this pushed me over the edge, the only decision now is Star Wars or Uncharted? The former is getting mixed reviews, and I already played the UC trilogy on Ps3. Decisions, decisions...are the physical copies with these games just the disc, or include the proper case as well?

You can always sell the game if you have no interest in it.

 

[TheOfficeMut]

My God of War Ascension PS3 had the physical disc, but in a crappy paper sleeve...

I only ask because when I bought the Assassins Creed Vita bundle 3 years ago, it didn't come with the case. Maybe that's not apples to apples, but that was the reason behind the question. And I think there have been other instances where the case wasn't included.

Oh shit, and here I thought that a bundle wouldn't go as far as not offering a proper case. lol

Sorry!

 

[Inuhanyou]

What IF NX outsells Ps4?

It will, just wait for Ars to make a chart about it, they'll show how its possible.

 

[johnny956]

Thought it was weird when I checked inventory for the battlefront PS4 stock last weekend that most were sitting at the distribution center. Guess they were going through the uncharted one for BF

 

[borghe]

oh man.... sony going for blood for the first time this gen. damn.

 

[dragonyeuw]

You can always sell the game if you have no interest in it.

That's what I'm thinking. I 'may' hold onto Uncharted if I had to choose. Really the two main games I'm interested in on ps4 right now are Bloodborne and Until Dawn( and I missed the chance to pick that up for $16.99 the other day on amazon....dammit).

 

[opticalmace]

oh man.... sony going for blood for the first time this gen. damn.

Launching at $399 was pretty much going for blood. imho.

 

[sense]

Thought it was weird when I checked inventory for the battlefront PS4 stock last weekend that most were sitting at the distribution center. Guess they were going through the uncharted one for BF

so you are implying this wasn't a last minute idea to win december. I am shocked!!!

 

[Kleegamefan]

What IF NX outsells Ps4?

In what way? They will probably be close to Fifty Million units behind the PS4 by the time NX is due to arrive(the same amount as the total sales of Super Nintendos) and there are entire game genres and vocal fans Sony has locked up.......fighting games and their fans, for example. Worst of all, and I think this was by far the biggest missed opportunity by Nintendo, they will be REQUIRED to have a working, robust online infrastructure and ecosystem to complete with Sony. Inexplicably, Nintendo are YEARS behind PSN, let alone Xbox Live.

They absolutely will not beat the PS4 if they go head to head against it. They will need a disruptive product that will attract the masses.

This is a tall order, because the masses seem relatively happy with the PS4.

Spoiler

I took the bait, didn't I.

 

[Dragon]

I think the name Daft was taken when registering.

The only thing the dude is ever sincere about is Bloodborne lore, which is hilarious considering how utterly incomprehensible the whole thing is meant to be.

 

[opticalmace]

In what way? They will probably be close to Fifty Million units behind the PS4 by the time NX is due to arrive and there are entire game genres and vocal fans Sony has locked up.......fighting games and their fans, for example. Worst of all, and I think this was by far the biggest missed opportunity by Nintendo, they will be REQUIRED to have a working, robust online infrastructure and ecosystem to complete with Sony. Inexplicably, Nintendo are YEARS behind PSN, let alone Xbox Live.

They absolutely will not beat the PS4 if they go head to head against it. They will need a disruptive product that will attract the masses.

This is a tall order, because the masses seem relatively happy with the PS4.

It was definitely a joke... it's like..

What if PS4 outsells Apple?

 

[The Last One]

Sony would be foolish to not use TFA hype to sell some Battlefront bundles.

 

[Liabe Brave]

For sure. Hidden cost I guess for anyone not already invested. I can see why not a year but I still would have thought 1 month.

I believe all PS4s do include a 14-day trial of PS+. I could be wrong about that, though.

 

[Radec]

Sony out for blood this holidays.

 

[Megawarrior]

Lowering the price of the star wars bundle around the time people are drunk with hype and nostalgia due to the movie releasing. Genius.

 

[DieH@rd]

December just got much less interesting™.

 

[johnny956]

so you are implying this wasn't a last minute idea to win december. I am shocked!!!

Yea it was certainly planned before thanksgiving

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Dang...sales will be crazy.

 

[Brew124]

December just got much less interesting™.

Yeah they're going all out this year.. I'm liking it.

 

[TheOfficeMut]

The only thing the dude is ever sincere about is Bloodborne lore, which is hilarious considering how utterly incomprehensible the whole thing is meant to be.

Yup. That game is a big pile of ambiguity, although admittedly when I read up on everything it all became fascinating to me. Prior to that all I did was play the game to kill shit because the lore felt like it was thrown at a wall to see what sticks.

 

[Loudninja]

Thought it was weird when I checked inventory for the battlefront PS4 stock last weekend that most were sitting at the distribution center. Guess they were going through the uncharted one for BF

Yeah someone else something similar

Might not be the uncharted bundle that goes to 300.

It's probably a placeholder since the number is insane, but there are more battlefront PS4s warehoused than holiday xbones.

 

[TheOfficeMut]

What if PS4 Battlefront bundles included an AMC movie ticket to entice people to see the Star Wars movie. D:

 

[Farsi]

Bravo to the xbox, you're forcing Sony to finally play. Gamers win, yay.

 

[Kysen]

EA is getting paid this holiday. Sony buying all those bundled copies.

 

[EthanC]

Those folks who bought a UC PS4 over Black Friday instead of a Star Wars bundle because of price are blessed. Battlefront is awful, especially when compared to UC. I even find that I still enjoy the first UC a lot.

 

[Chobel]

Huh, this makes me think they're worried they won't reach the shipment forecast, so they slashed the SWB bundle price too.

 

[dragonyeuw]

Bravo to the xbox, you're forcing Sony to finally play. Gamers win, yay.

The company selling twice as many units worldwide is being 'forced' into something?

 

[Crimson_Gold]

Bravo to the xbox, you're forcing Sony to finally play. Gamers win, yay.

LOL. This was a movie promotion from the very beginning. Insiders are saying warehouses are packed with these bundles. This move was a marketing deal. It is a great business strategy. It is not some move to counter a competitor that's being beaten 2-1 ww

 

[lobdale]

Those folks who bought a UC PS4 over Black Friday instead of a Star Wars bundle because of price are blessed. Battlefront is awful, especially when compared to UC. I even find that I still enjoy the first UC a lot.

Come on now. There's nothing wrong with Uncharted, but as a current PS3 owner I can confidently say I have no interest in buying new hardware to play three games I already played with plenty enough visual fidelity no more than a few years ago.

Gimme dat Battlefront bundle.

 

[DangerMouse]

Launching at $399 was pretty much going for blood. imho.

Agreed.

What if PS4 Battlefront bundles included an AMC movie ticket to entice people to see the Star Wars movie. D:

Oh yeah. Almost surprised they didn't do one of those things with Disney.

 

[Nameless]

That Battlefront ad with the price drop at the end should do some damage. Like we saw last year with MS lowering the MSRP officially shouldn't stop retailers from sweetening the pot even more with gift cards, more games, and or plus subs.

35 million by year's end is definitely in play.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Might be the first year Sony beats MS in US territory. Smart move.

They beat them last year.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

Bravo to the xbox, you're forcing Sony to finally play. Gamers win, yay.

umm if anything it would be the opposite lmao

ms will have to come up with something so they dont get slaughtered christmastime

 

[3rdamention]

They may do something similar but I don't know if they will pack in Battlefront. I don't think the movie will save this game from the negative word of mouth around it. Its underperformed across the board.

Ok, I shared this in another thread, but I am going to post a condensed version here. This is all anecdotal evidence, of course. I am a middle school teacher at a school of 6th-8th Graders. The students in my school are bat crazy over Battlefront. Battlefront and Fallout are all they talk about, boys and girls. They think Battlefront is the best multiplayer game going right now. And the kids that do not own it, say they are asking for it, or the game and a new system, for Christmas. I even helped one teacher sign up for Gamers Club Unlocked because he was going to buy the game for 2 of his grandsons, so I was trying to help him save some money over this Christmas and next.


All the lack of content or simplicity of the gameplay goes unnoticed to these tweens and teens. I think Battlefront is going to be huge within this demographic. When you add in that Christmas is really about giving, and also about the kids, I think this game will end up doing very well this Holiday.

As more people in this demographic continue to play and enjoy the game, and continue to talk to their friends about it, I could see this game having decent legs through early next year. It is an easy game to get into, it doesn't have any graphic violence, language or sexuality. I think it hits the target with the group I am describing, whether that was the intention or not.

 

[Elios83]

Huh, this makes me think they're worried they won't reach the shipment forecast, so they slashed the SWB bundle price too.

They're not worried at all Chobel.
They want to sell tons of systems and to maximize the effect of their marketing deal with Star Wars taking indirectly advantage of the hype for the movie as well. This is excellent marketing.
Microsoft should learn a thing or two considering how they have essentially wasted their Fallout partnership and let's not even talk about how they handled Tomb Raider. They bet too much on Halo and it was a mistake.

 

[SpotAnime]

This is huge. It's not like throwing in a title as a bonus, this is a game most people would want to buy with their PS4s. A true $60 savings on top of the $50 price drop. I might even return my still-sealed Xbox One version to get this.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

What IF NX outsells Ps4?

Then that would be grand for console gaming's future...depending on what exactly the NX actually is.

 

[RoboPlato]

Sony coming in hard after preseason? Unheard of

 

[AnthonypUK]

Huh, this makes me think they're worried they won't reach the shipment forecast, so they slashed the SWB bundle price too.

Should change that tag to just sony

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

It makes sense. 2016 should be kind to Sony on the software front but those games all come after this year's Christmas. Uncharted 4 was supposed to be moving units right now but it was delayed to next year. Might as well do this and hope the incoming 2016 onslaught continues the momentum.

 

[GeoramA]

BF bundle is gonna be $299 now? Didn't expect that, but it makes sense. Gotta capitalize on the SW fever.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

This brings me right back to an idea people on gaf were grilling me.

Why can't I buy battle front and get the Ps2 and snes games with it? Sigh. Do people sell the codes or that? Or what.

 

[Nightengale]

Sony coming in hard after preseason? Unheard of

 

[FullMetaltech]

Makes perfect sense. Lowering it close to movie release and give shoppers extra time to get a ps4 at 299. Boatloads will be sold. It safe to say December will also be Interesting.

 

[EthanC]

They're not worried at all Chobel.
They want to sell tons of systems and to maximize the effect of their marketing deal with Star Wars taking indirectly advantage of the hype for the movie as well. This is excellent marketing.
Microsoft should learn a thing or two considering how they have essentially wasted their Fallout partnership and let's not even talk about how they handled Tomb Raider. They bet too much on Halo and it was a mistake.

MS has really acted pretty stupidly this holiday. They made the one cheap game bundle that was exclusive to them (Tomb Raider) also exclusive to only one retailer. And on top of that their big franchise has an LE bundle which should be attractive to consumers, but they so stupidly over-priced it that it was pretty much the only console available in huge quantities after the masses picked clean BF and CM sales.

 

[teiresias]

In what way? They will probably be close to Fifty Million units behind the PS4 by the time NX is due to arrive(the same amount as the total sales of Super Nintendos) and there are entire game genres and vocal fans Sony has locked up.......fighting games and their fans, for example. Worst of all, and I think this was by far the biggest missed opportunity by Nintendo, they will be REQUIRED to have a working, robust online infrastructure and ecosystem to complete with Sony. Inexplicably, Nintendo are YEARS behind PSN, let alone Xbox Live.

They absolutely will not beat the PS4 if they go head to head against it. They will need a disruptive product that will attract the masses.

This is a tall order, because the masses seem relatively happy with the PS4.

Spoiler

I took the bait, didn't I.

I'm also not sure how the market is even going to react to NX.

Many people on GAF will probably consider it a "next-gen" console post-PS4/XB1. However, given how horribly WiiU flopped and its lack of mindshare, it wouldn't surprise me if the general market saw it as Nintendo being late to the current gen party instead and playing catch up to PS4 and XB1, which will not help its perception amongst the mass market.

 

[AngelOFDeath]

New commercial tying in TFA with Battle of Jakku free DLC, show off the footage then end with the bundle pictured and limited time price. This is going to sell a whole bunch if it hasn't already

 

[DannyDanger]

I'm happy for Uncharted

the series is gonna get alot more exposure b4 UC4

 

[gamechanger87]

Ok, I shared this in another thread, but I am going to post a condensed version here. This is all anecdotal evidence, of course. I am a middle school teacher at a school of 6th-8th Graders. The students in my school are bat crazy over Battlefront. Battlefront and Fallout are all they talk about, boys and girls. They think Battlefront is the best multiplayer game going right now. And the kids that do not own it, say they are asking for it, or the game and a new system, for Christmas. I even helped one teacher sign up for Gamers Club Unlocked because he was going to buy the game for 2 of his grandsons, so I was trying to help him save some money over this Christmas and next.


All the lack of content or simplicity of the gameplay goes unnoticed to these tweens and teens. I think Battlefront is going to be huge within this demographic. When you add in that Christmas is really about giving, and also about the kids, I think this game will end up doing very well this Holiday.

As more people in this demographic continue to play and enjoy the game, and continue to talk to their friends about it, I could see this game having decent legs through early next year. It is an easy game to get into, it doesn't have any graphic violence, language or sexuality. I think it hits the target with the group I am describing, whether that was the intention or not.

I'm basing my commentary on the fact that GS said Star Wars underperformed expectations on their earnings call and InfoScout posted the following image for game sales on Black Friday. They are usually fairly accurate with their estimates based on 250k receipts. They were proven correct last year and the year prior when NPD came out.

You will see that BF is really low on the list for a mutiplatform game that just came out.

 

[EthanC]

I'm basing my commentary on the fact that GS said Star Wars underperformed expectations on their earnings call and InfoScout posted the following image for game sales on Black Friday. They are usually fairly accurate with their estimates based on 250k receipts. They were proven correct last year and the year prior when NPD came out.


You will see that BF is really low on the list for a mutiplatform game that just came out.

It's also telling that on the place kids go to watch games they don't own, Twitch, Battlefront is doing poorly.