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Gafia 2: The Bride of Gafia |Mafia OT| One Wedding, Many Funerals

gryvan

Member
I'll be honest, anyone pushing theories exceptionally hard this early on is going to pique my suspicion. It's a perfect way for unscrupulous characters to give the illusion of activity without having to actively point fingers.

but whats there to point fingers at if nobody is talking?
 

gryvan

Member
but whats there to point fingers at if nobody is talking?

I mean this is day 1 for christ sakes...nobody and their mom would talk about anything besides fluff posts and fluff votes

I think its better to use this time to discuss some theories on the first half of the 3 days given and the other half to start pointing fingers
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
I think we can just lay out our theories of what the map's true purpose is and then after day 2 etc. we can look through a list of theories on what scum/neutral/town PRs can and can't do

I do have several theories on how some scum/netural/town PR mechanics work using the map:

Theory: (PRs):
A) They can only use their PR on the opposing table of where they are sitting

B) They can only target adjacent players next to them
example: Salva is at E at Table 2. So if Salva has a PR, he can target players at D or F of Table 2

C) They can target players where the scum is sitting from the opposing table
example: Salva is at E at Table 2. Another player, Terrabyte, is at E of Table 1. Salva can target players D, E, and F of Table 1

D) Can do both option B and C

E) They can target only odd or even numbered players
example: Between A-K, the number equivalent would be 1-11. So they can either target the odd (A, C, E, G, I, K) or even (B, D, F, H, J) tables. They can do that for either table 1 or table 2

F) They can target Table 1 on a specific day/night or Table 2 on a specific day/night

G) Can do both option E and F

H) The map is there for fluff and this whole game follows normal mafia rules so option A-G is all moot
Extreme amount of overreaching, dude. Shit, you can call this Halo: Reach.
 

kingkitty

Member
*skims theories*

Well I''m sure we'll figure out the importance of the tables sooner or later. Obviously talking about mechanics is an easy thing to do for scum, which can make someone look helpful and active. While at the same time not diving into anything riskier. But it is Day 1, where we don't have much to go on, so I don't see it as a warning bell for all the mechanics talks.

I do love maps though. Every game should have maps.
 

CzarTim

Member
Somehow I didn't realize you were in this game until this post...

looking forward to another day one lynch that propels us to victory
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Burbeting

Banned
Have I told you guys lately how much I love maps

Every game should have one.

The map of true love should have been used in lb, shit.

I agree with Scrafty that overdiscussing the map mechanic is an easy way for Scum to seem active and contributing, when in reality they are just throwing shit at the wall randomly. Obviously we don't have much to go on, so the map mechanic is a natural talking point, but some people are clearly over analysing it. Gryvan seems to be the most clear example of this atm.
 

Burbeting

Banned
At any case, we will be most likely wiser by d2 or d3 on how the map works and affects the game. It could work like the danganronpa map for all we know. Right now we simply don't know for sure.
 

Burbeting

Banned
Too lazy to read DR
How did DR work?

Players who did night actions had to walk to their targets. If someone saw you walking past you (as in, they were walking around as well), they were notified that they had seen you during the walk. That's how I think it went?
 

Burbeting

Banned
Noting that I don't actually think the map mechanic works similarly here. It was just an example to emphasis the fact that we know Jack shit right now.
 

SalvaPot

Member
What I can say with some certainty is that it'll be something unobtrusive and simple. I know that's speculation in itself, but it just seems like common sense.

There is something else to talk about, but I won't bring it up just yet.

Do you want to know now?

Eh, nevermind. Why pull an unnecessary gambit when I'm sure one of you knuckleheads will come through?

You are not going to blueball me with this, speak.

Vote: LaunchpadMcQ
 

Ty4on

Member
Players who did night actions had to walk to their targets. If someone saw you walking past you (as in, they were walking around as well), they were notified that they had seen you during the walk. That's how I think it went?

Basically draw lines for power roles' actions. Every line that intersected (or came really close) would mean that they saw each other and if X saw Y, Y would also see X. The exception were really short trips like Crab's self heal and my trip straight across the hallway because reasons.
You had motion detection roles as well like Rest who had a camera outside his door and could see who passed by it, but they couldn't see him or his camera.
 
If you think this question is too revealing, don't answer it, but: Did you have to use the shot before the game began, or did you use it after the game had begun?

It's a day use ability. I don't even mind sharing the ability, but I want to see how people react. It's one of those things you can't stop unless you lynch me
and I'm hoping you don't :|
 
So, I assume there is a reason you are not telling us what it is? Or are you planning to reveal that later on the day?

I may reveal it. Like I said, you can only stop it if you lynch me. It'll take effect in the night phase. However, depending on the reactions, I may or may not reveal the nature.
 

Ourobolus

Banned

Burbeting

Banned
It's a day use ability. I don't even mind sharing the ability, but I want to see how people react. It's one of those things you can't stop unless you lynch me
and I'm hoping you don't :|

I hope tacos are involved in your power somehow. That was a joke.

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It's 1.20 am, so I'll head to sleep now. I might have bit spotty internet access tomorrow.
 

Karu

Member
I really don't want to be rude about this, quite the opposite, but since we shouldn't be talking about the Map... or we have to at the very least make an effort to analyze the map effortlessly and without much sweat... I conclude that Scrafty is probably Scum, because
 

SalvaPot

Member
I may reveal it. Like I said, you can only stop it if you lynch me. It'll take effect in the night phase. However, depending on the reactions, I may or may not reveal the nature.

Well, that is indeed convenient. "Don't lynch me or else it won't work". You are softclaiming all the way to the endgame?
 

roytheone

Member
Well, that is indeed convenient. "Don't lynch me or else it won't work". You are softclaiming all the way to the endgame?

Eh, the way I understand launch his claim, is that it's a one time thing that will go in effect tonight. How is it possible to use that to softclaim to the endgame?
 

SalvaPot

Member
Eh, the way I understand launch his claim, is that it's a one time thing that will go in effect tonight. How is it possible to use that to softclaim to the endgame?

Yeah I did see that, but if something happens tonight he can just attach it to himself as "I did that", or if its something that scum can take advantage off, then he is going to not say what it is and scum will be interested in keeping him alive, this is all assuming he is just not lying and is scum himself.

But this is all very early. Launch, if there is a risk your power can backfire, don't reveal anything else, if its done and should be safe, then give us some kind of idea of what to expect.
 

roytheone

Member
Yeah I did see that, but if something happens tonight he can just attach it to himself as "I did that", or if its something that scum can take advantage off, then he is going to not say what it is and scum will be interested in keeping him alive, this is all assuming he is just not lying and is scum himself.

But this is all very early. Launch, if there is a risk your power can backfire, don't reveal anything else, if its done and should be safe, then give us some kind of idea of what to expect.

If he was a lying scum, he just strapped a tikking time bomb on himself. For no real reason. Yeah, it will get him passed day 1 easier, but it will explode in his face sooner rather then later.
 
Hm , so I assume scum has no way to misuse the power of they know what it is?

There's actually no way to misuse this power. It's neutral as fuck.

Well, that is indeed convenient. "Don't lynch me or else it won't work". You are softclaiming all the way to the endgame?

No, you guys can lynch me, the effect would be negligible. The only thing my ability is going to do is cause a lot of fucking confusion.

I take it your role ties into the seats?

You would be correct.
 
I'm not too surprised GAFIA already has chosen to do something abnormal day 1. it's basically tradition at this point, we really can't go a day 1 without claiming
 
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