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Gafia 2: The Bride of Gafia |Mafia OT| One Wedding, Many Funerals
- Thread starter RetroMG
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Just in general control the narrative, or in any specific direction?
What do you make of his vote on Wee? His vote was originally on Salva who would have lead if he'd kept it there. With the swap Salva, Wee and Kalor (latter had just claimed) were in a three way tie.
Just in general control the narrative, or in any specific direction?
What do you make of his vote on Wee? His vote was originally on Salva who would have lead if he'd kept it there. With the swap Salva, Wee and Kalor (latter had just claimed) were in a three way tie.
As of now, in the direction of eliminating the commuter claim.
His vote was on Salva, yes, but as you mentioned, switching it turned things into a tie. And, if we believe the current claims, everyone on weemad except CzarTim and AbsolutBro (alignment currently unknown) was townie. Jumping in early on that would do wonders for Burb's townie cred later if wee ended up getting lynched.
I mean, this is still just me creating a story to fit my suspicions, but I think it's highly plausible.
I mostly skimmed the thread at the time (was at work looking at my phone whenever I could), but the sudden turn against Wee came as a surprise to me. I remember being busy just before the deadline so I quickly skimmed those last few posts.
Still, there were tons of opportunities for scum to shift the vote elsewhere and yet Burb did this:
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Quotes surrounded by ---------... did not quote the preceding quote.
That Nin vote feels important. Without it it would have been 3/5 between Wee/Salva, with it it was 4/5 and someone like Terra could switch from Salva to Wee without risking a tie.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
That really just leaves the pool of people who have an unconfirmed alignment in that list at.... Fireblend lol
Hell, I believe it. Anyone for a last minute push for Fireblend?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Then again, this entire thing is skewed if Salva was mafia, as well, all along.
Sorry for being a bit dense, bit how did you end up with Fire?
Fireblend is the other guy on my MAFIA RADAR so if people wanna go for him I'm game.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Look at the votes on Salva at the end:
Me
Ouro
Weemad
Fireblend
The other three (ok at least Ouro and weemad, but i obviously wouldn't put myself out there) are confirmed alignment. That just leaves Fireblend.
No no, I am most suspicious about those who didn't have a vote on either of us.
Here I am quoting myself for enfasis.
The ones I wanto focus in are:
Didn't try to save weemad
17. Ty4on [m]
05. Camjo-Z [m]
09. LaunchpadMcQ [m]
Away, Neutral or indifferent at the moment
03. BananaSpacePrincess [f]
07. Fireblend [m]
11. Ourobolus [m]
12. RobotNinjaHornets [m]
13. Roytheone [m]
16. Timeaisis [m]
Now let's check burbs table:
I am leaning Camjo and Timeaisis as the scum team, CzarTim as the Arsonist.
Also sorry to be a disappointment, but I'm not the arsonist. However, I don't actually think ab is either. He's going hard on me so if he were the arso, he either expects to win tonight or is risking being the obvious lynch choice tomorrow.
I am not entirely sure he's town though, I realized yesterday I had no read on him, so I was hoping to put some pressure on him today. Not confident enough for a vote though.
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I am not entirely sure he's town though, I realized yesterday I had no read on him, so I was hoping to put some pressure on him today. Not confident enough for a vote though.
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I agree, fuck em
Which is to say I think either Launch is lying about his power, or Xam is scum with that power.
Did you receive a drink on N1?
Ah, didn't catch that. I haven't focused much on Fire after D1, but that is suspicious.
What about either Launch or Ouro lying? I find it a bit weird Ouro managed to hit one of his targets when Launch supposedly scrambled the table.
I mean I got a drink, so oreo isn't lying about that. But yes, I think Launch may be lying, but I am not sure if I think he is scum.
Unless oreo is lying about his win condition? He said he loses if he doesn't get everyone a drink but he may be lying so we dont lynch him at the end
I don't have an alternate survivor win condition. Either I get everyone before one side wins, or I don't.
I fully expect to get immolated any day now, so it may as well be a moot point here.I mean, so you claim
Honestly, if there wasn't an arsonist and you weren't doused, I would probably have pushed for a lynch of you in order to prevent another NX situation (only this time I would be at the bad side of it). But that is probably not really relevant anymore, and even if you are lying about not having a survivor win, you are at least 100 % invested in the arsonist hunt.
Yeah, I figured if and when I claimed I'd have to deal with that. I can't really "prove" it without directly quoting the PM or asking for mod confirmation (which, well, is a little against the rules), but it's simple to test - either I leave early, or I don't and lose. But based on how things are going I don't think I'll have to worry much about that.
You really think Kalor should be above suspicion, then? Commuter is a role that is the easiest role for Scum to claim, and ever since that claim he has done nothing but coasting. Has he said anything contributive to the discussion today at all? He also did the whole "oh I'd like to vote weemad, but I can't, but please give me town credit" which just stinks to me.
For the moving thing, there's not much I can say to that. Timeaisis is no longer cleared, so the chances that the seat activity happened due to me moving is 1/4 chance at the moment.
I know that this is heavily wifom, but would I had claimed to not have moved in N1, if I was scum? If I was scum, I'd know people would watch me with a magnifying glass from now on, so it would be much more beneficial for me to roleclaim some role, that had moved during N1.
AbsolutBro
Member
I realized upon rereading that this part of my post:
sounds like I am accusing you of just that. I want to apologize, that wasnt what I meant. I was arguing the idea that being low activity doesnt hurt someone in an earlier post, and while my brain bridged the gap my posts did not. Sorry dude.
FWIW, while I have certainly gone for Fireblend D1 & D2, I have softened considerably on him this day phase. Not enough to NOT vote for him, mind. Im not 100% convinced hes town or anything.
Welcome! One thing to keep in mind is the day phase ends later today(IRL today), so no worries if you dont get caught up in time!
The only reason Ive gone hard on you is because our suspect pool is very limited, IF we operate under certain assumptions.
ASSUMPTION #1: The arsonist can only douse those at their table.
01. AbsolutBro [m]
06. CzarTim [m]
09. LaunchpadMcQ [m]
11. Ourobolus [m]
13. Roytheone [m]
18. Xamtheking [m]
The only people at the table with a douse-ee both N1 and N2.
ASSUMPTION #2: The arsonist does not want to douse themselves.
That eliminates Roy and Ouro. This assumption I am shaky on, since I believe one arsonist we have seen in Gafia games did torch themselves.
ASSUMPTION #3: Those claimed so far are telling the truth.
Xam has shown he can pull the fire alarm.
Launch supposedly shifted table 2 and has a secondary power as yet undisclosed.
Ouro gives out drinks.
That leaves you and me; I know Im not it. So either assumptions 2 or 3 are wrong (not at all unlikely), or it is you. While I have mentally ruled out Ouro and Xam, Im not really 100% ready to rule out Launch (whose power has yet to be definitively proven), and certainly not ready to rule out Roy.
see above.
This is true.
going to get some breakfast and do some work
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Hmm I'm curious why you think I would lie if I weren't scum.
The only thing tripping me up here is that RNGesus decided Xam was still getting a cup :|
This idea is fine by itself, but would mafia really risk lynching their Godfather over that? Especially considering that Scrafty would have most likely checked weemad the next night, and given them a confirmed town status. That kind of town credit is much more needed in comparison to what scum would get from lynching weemad.
AB: I don't know how to refute that other than I am not the arso. So either someone is lying or the role is not table limited. I can't help any further. It seems like the role would be broken for this exact reason, arso already had a cop, two trackers, and a scum team to deal with, being able to narrow it down due to rng seems a bit much.
Launch: If you had a more powerful role and were hiding behind a one shot claim? I just don't understand why town would have the ability to mess with tables in two different ways.
My vote will likely be on Kalor, I think a commuter might be a good scum counter to arso if it's true. And I agree that his trying to save wee was weird.
Launch: If you had a more powerful role and were hiding behind a one shot claim? I just don't understand why town would have the ability to mess with tables in two different ways.
My vote will likely be on Kalor, I think a commuter might be a good scum counter to arso if it's true. And I agree that his trying to save wee was weird.
It's possible, although it would mean that 3 people would claim being doused without ignition happening (possible even 4). Would Arsonist waste one night from reaching their win condition?
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Did scum fail to save Wee because:
-They didn't see it coming (was the case for me, but I was a bit busy and she were tied for a while)
-Didn't want to stand out and mass on Salva (Wee's vote came really late)
-Another scum was on the chopping block (Wee kept pushing for a Scrafty lynch)
-Too meny scum were AFK and couldn't save her
Those who were active back then, how likely did a Wee lynch seem in those last few hours and minutes? It seemed to go Scrafty, Kalor and then maybe Salva when I look at the votes in retrospect.
Did scum fail to save Wee because:
-They didn't see it coming (was the case for me, but I was a bit busy and she were tied for a while)
-Didn't want to stand out and mass on Salva (Wee's vote came really late)
-Another scum was on the chopping block (Wee kept pushing for a Scrafty lynch)
-Too meny scum were AFK and couldn't save her
Those who were active back then, how likely did a Wee lynch seem in those last few hours and minutes? It seemed to go Scrafty, Kalor and then maybe Salva when I look at the votes in retrospect.
Should've asked this yesterday when Nin were here -_-
Could also have been role blocked.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
It was almost for sure Salva until nin's plea for innocence. To be honest, I thought Nin and Salva were lovers so I backed out because of that.
what does that have to do with this game
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ok, I'd like to know how people intend to vote. AB and Kalor already claimed, so there shouldn't be any last minute bullshit... right?
Hmm that's actually pretty believable, but it hinges on whether my ability worked or not. If mafia knew my ability didn't exist as I'd described it, they would have killed me because I was hiding something else. They know it happened the way I said it did, though.
But again, giving me too much credit here.
Hmm that's actually pretty believable, but it hinges on whether my ability worked or not. If mafia knew my ability didn't exist as I'd described it, they would have killed me because I was hiding something else. They know it happened the way I said it did, though.
But again, giving me too much credit here.
Do you think scum would have Xam's role? As a way to get his teammates away from the trackers maybe?