Spladam
Member
Err.... If this were a thing... Good thing my REAL first name Johnson.
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SONY banned someone based on his real name
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Err.... If this were a thing... Good thing my REAL first name Johnson.
#IStandWithJihad. $$$$
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Fucking read.
ScientificPizza
Banned
PSN is a global service and needs to think and act beyond just what the west thinks. Entire regions of the globe shouldn't be censored to cater to other people's ignorance.
NascentGecko
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*slow clap*
Hope he gets his account back at some point, i'd be insanely pissed if something similar happened to me
If PSN names were region-specific that would make sense, but they're not. Reading the reddit thread, it seems this guy may be based in the USA anyway?
Poimandres
Member
The initial banning I can totally see as a misunderstanding. That's fine, these things happen. But doubling down and not allowing him to change his account name is super shitty. Bad job Sony.
ScientificPizza
Banned
...what? How does being region specific change anything? It's global, so it should take every country into account.
If Sony ME started banning western accounts because a common English word had a different primary meaning in their culture would you say the same thing? This is just a global service being blatantly western-centric.
Tevious
Member
Sony's customer service department doesn't give a fuck. They banned me when PayPal auto-reversed a charge when I added funds to my account, then un-banned me when I paid them the money back, then re-banned me a week later for shits and giggles. After my thread here on GAF got a bit of attention, a person higher up in Sony was able to get them to straighten things out.
Glad this dude is getting publicity. Hopefully, someone higher up at Sony will notice and get this situation straightened out for him.
Glad this dude is getting publicity. Hopefully, someone higher up at Sony will notice and get this situation straightened out for him.
Sony/MS/valve etc should not be allowed - by law - to completely delete your account. Maybe ban your gamer tag and force a name change if it is offensive, maybe ban you from multiplayer with randoms if you are caught cheating. But you should *always* have access to content you have previously purchased.
I should be able to make my PSN account whatever name I want. There's nothing wrong with my name, Hitler Q. xXxXFingerblasterXxXx.
I can't believe there are people defending this.
If Sony had decided back when he made an account that it wasn't an acceptable name and asked him to change it, it would still be bullshit, but it wouldn't be so bad.
If Sony had stood by their initial offer of just changing his screen name, or if that's impossible because of how their database is set up, offered to transfer all his purchases to a new account, then it wouldn't be so bad.
But as it stands, they are stealing thousands of dollars in purchases from this guy just because they decided they didn't like his name ten years after the fact. And that's unforgivable. You can't just take thousands of dollars in purchases away from someone on a whim like that. Imagine if you bought a TV, and then a few years later, someone stormed into your house and took the TV back without reimbursing you because they decided they didn't like the name on your credit card. That's exactly what's happening here. It would be illegal for this to happen with real, physical goods, so it should also be illegal for it to happen with digital goods.
If Sony had decided back when he made an account that it wasn't an acceptable name and asked him to change it, it would still be bullshit, but it wouldn't be so bad.
If Sony had stood by their initial offer of just changing his screen name, or if that's impossible because of how their database is set up, offered to transfer all his purchases to a new account, then it wouldn't be so bad.
But as it stands, they are stealing thousands of dollars in purchases from this guy just because they decided they didn't like his name ten years after the fact. And that's unforgivable. You can't just take thousands of dollars in purchases away from someone on a whim like that. Imagine if you bought a TV, and then a few years later, someone stormed into your house and took the TV back without reimbursing you because they decided they didn't like the name on your credit card. That's exactly what's happening here. It would be illegal for this to happen with real, physical goods, so it should also be illegal for it to happen with digital goods.
If Sony is really this incompetent I dont know we trust them with anything...
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
What's wrong here now is they locked him out of the account without warning, as well as the numerous games he had, and disallow him to change his name.
Please educate yourself about the name...
Gravy Boat
Member
You think rich executives are making these sort of decisions?
I don't blame Sony's immediate reaction, but if he was able to prove that was his real name I don't see why they revoked the name change offer.
snoopeasystreet
Member
That's a sucky mistake by Sony, they should have known better. I hope the dude gets his account back.
What's fucking terrible is that people in here are defending them and saying "he shouldn't use his name" despite his explanation. Don't put a corporation before a human being, lads.
If you were to ask Sony about it, they'll probably say "our bad, this a mistake that got out of hand" and reverse the process or rectify it in some way. They won't be shitty about it and neither should you.
What's fucking terrible is that people in here are defending them and saying "he shouldn't use his name" despite his explanation. Don't put a corporation before a human being, lads.
If you were to ask Sony about it, they'll probably say "our bad, this a mistake that got out of hand" and reverse the process or rectify it in some way. They won't be shitty about it and neither should you.
A Link to the Past
Banned
MadJackChurchill
Banned
I wouldn't be grossed out with 'iDahmer' personally, and I wouldn't ban them from my network after they spent thousands of dollars on content. And regarding Vader, they could be referring to the band Vader just as much as Darth Vader.
Are you BigJohnson6969?
Simply Sami
Member
I have just seen a psn Nword4life. He had a on the end of the word instead of e and r.
What the fuck Sony?
What the fuck Sony?
Pretty much indeed. This is not worth my time, and banning a name like that is not strange at all.
And Jihad had a bad meaning to me 26 years ago already. Now it's clearly 250 times worse.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Any update on this?
I would expect Sony to give him a free console/games for this treatment if one of the bigger execs found out.
If that's the name on his passport surely this should be instantly revoked.
I would expect Sony to give him a free console/games for this treatment if one of the bigger execs found out.
If that's the name on his passport surely this should be instantly revoked.
MrS
Banned
Bullshit. Mr-Stephen is the best PSN username
I really wish there's some way to help him get his account back.I think calling up CS might be better for him than just emailing them. It's easier to make your case on the phone imo and to press them into action.
Report hm then.
Report hm then.
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Deleted member 231381
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His username is also a pun on ijtihad, or "independent reasoning/rational contemplation", which makes this especially sad.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
What? That's not at all what that reply you're agreeing with was about lol. You've got opposite opinions on the matter it seems.
Fbh
Member
I can see why they would ban him at first. But it's pretty shitty that they don't offer him any solution even after he proved it to be his real name. Specially for an account he has owned for 6 years and has spent a lot of money on.
It's not just some 12 year old kid having "Hitler" as a username "for the Lulz".
He had the name for 6 years, bought thousands dollars worth of digital goods. Let him change his user name at least, no? How can you justify Sony's handling of this incident?
BloodOmenPT
Member
There is actually a police officer in Italy called Hitler Mussolini, let's hope he never tries to get a PSN account...
Yes, the name may have a bad connotation, but one does not make the whole, it's just like the Nazis appropriating a Buddhism and Hinduism symbol and making it bad worldwide.
Yes, the name may have a bad connotation, but one does not make the whole, it's just like the Nazis appropriating a Buddhism and Hinduism symbol and making it bad worldwide.
Feral Gingy
Banned
The world is so sensitive/hostile about these things now, but a line has been crossed here. I hope Sony fixes this by returning the account with an apology to this guy.
Chronospherics
Member
So I checked out the guys profile on PSN.
His profile comment says
"Who gives a fuck?"
Might have given the rep a negative impression when they read it too.
He's also only trophy level 10 (lolomg what a noob, ikr), which kind of discredits the emphasis he places on all the time and effort he's put into his account over the last five years. Sure, at the end of the day it's still his time and if he's owed it back, he's owed it back, but I do feel he did emphasize what he'd put into the account perhaps a little more than it deserved.
I still don't agree with his ban or name change though. His name is his name and it has cultural heritage behind it. He shouldn't be forced to discard that because of its misuse, and he's right to fight for it.
His profile comment says
"Who gives a fuck?"
Might have given the rep a negative impression when they read it too.
He's also only trophy level 10 (lolomg what a noob, ikr), which kind of discredits the emphasis he places on all the time and effort he's put into his account over the last five years. Sure, at the end of the day it's still his time and if he's owed it back, he's owed it back, but I do feel he did emphasize what he'd put into the account perhaps a little more than it deserved.
I still don't agree with his ban or name change though. His name is his name and it has cultural heritage behind it. He shouldn't be forced to discard that because of its misuse, and he's right to fight for it.
SprachBrooks
Member
Wait a minute, are Sony actually stating that your legal name is appropriate, please change it?
The notion they can force someone to change their legal name because it has a negative connotation is ridiculous. Sony need to own up and restore his account, without requiring him to change his username.
The notion they can force someone to change their legal name because it has a negative connotation is ridiculous. Sony need to own up and restore his account, without requiring him to change his username.
Now there's a painful reminder that we don't get to choose our parents.
Still no update,and yes,this name on his passport and he already sent a copy of the passport to them.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Uhhhhhh.... how does the fact that he lost access to all the games he bought even remotely acceptable even if he's uhhh... not a "hardcore" gamer?
SprachBrooks
Member
This is wholeheartedly bigoted and ridiculously ignorant. Jihad's meaning is most definitely not inextricably linked with terrorist persuasions.
Jihad is about hardship and working through it. I think he should also protest if they say he can change his name, they have no legal right to enforce such bigoted policy and they should educate themselves on the transience of name interpretation.
It's easy to see how that name could be inflammtery, also the delay in banning could be due to people reporting that name, I've seen dodgy names on both that somehow got through the name test that would require people to report them for Sony or ms to take action. The user shouldn't be banned though should be given the choice to rename.