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[DarkJak101]

I don't get this, if his name was " Kill All NON MUSLIMS " in Arabic or " KILL ALL ARABS " in whatever language, that is ok as well because that's his name ? his name has offended meaning. period.

While I don't agree with the permeant banning, the name Omar is actually used for many other religions outside islam so no they cant ban that. however. the name Jihad even in Arabic it implies to fight for the name of Allah ( as in go to war against not muslim ) that is the true meaning of the Jihad ( as far as I can tell ) which while might be acceptable for countries that does have the Islam religion as a main religion, its not for the rest of the world.

This alone will cause fear and disturbance around non muslim people when they go online and someone has a screen name of Jihad etc. who knows what these people might think.

if my parents named me Jihad and I want to move to a non muslim country. sure as hell I am going to change my name. for the sake of not offending other people from different culture and religion. and for the sake of not being treated with racism because of a stupid first name regardless what is that name.

IF you move to a country that is NOT your country, you should respect and follow their culture. not go against it in the name of freedom and human rights.

same goes for companies like Sony , Microsoft and Nintendo. I highly doubt they are muslim companies. if you want to be in their network, respect their policy and other people around the world. you don't live in your own little world.

oh and for the record I am a muslim ( well,, half ) but you get the idea

Sony should just force him to change his screen name and that's it.

Dude... No. As a Muslim, I know what I'm talking about with regards to this. Jihad means a war or fight, generally. Not only in terms of religious wars for the sake of Allah, but wars in general. In fact, the word is mainly used in Islam to describe an internal battle with ones self to overcome one's weaknesses and lusts. It's a way of improving one's self. Yes, recently it's been mainly used as a word to refer to physical religious war, but that's not where the word comes from, the media has created that connotation with the word.

Please, Google is your friend.

 

[jorma]

lol, the only ridiculous thing is this faux outrage. Sony is right for banning it and everyone knows it (they should compensate him for account spendings though)

I don't find the word offensive (and i don't find the western version - crusade - offensive either) so "everyone" doesn't include me.

As far as i'm concerned, a racist Sony employee stole his shit, and Sony is letting that pass. Doesn't reflect well upon them as a company.

 

[Sane_Man]

This is such a one sided issue that I fear the vast majority of the defence force in here are either racist or Sony fanboys. Sony should be ashamed. I feel bad for the poor dude.

 

[The Artisan]

Not sure about PSN's restrictions, but XBL won't allow any personally identifiable information (PII) in a user's gamertag, but it must be your last name or your first and last name in the gamertag in order for it to be a violation.

If Jihad was on XBL rather than PSN I don't think there would be an issue.

that's not true. i know a guy who has his whole gamertag as first and last name. unless he just hasn't been caught or something.

 

[naitosan]

New update:

Edit 11: Changed Name! So after media posts, from Kotaku, Gameinformer and a reporter from WSJ, Playstation UK (where my account was under) Contacted me via Twitter then they called me. I was offered to change the PSN ID, but that has it costs! My Trophies will have Syncing problems and could disappear, Friends are gone and social communication is deleted! There's no other way to it. The other interesting thing, he made the change from iJihad to Jiii--- in just 2 seconds over the phone call! It's not rocket science but it needs much technical improvements. (Noting my trophies are ZERO now after syncing)
They have told me that it was auto system checking (Which I find difficult to believe considering it's around 7 years accounts) and no one has an opinion in it!
He have also mentioned that they are discussing developing a system to allow name changes to all, still in the discussions though!
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I'm really thankful to all of you guys who supported me and support Gaming community in general. These voices are the ones who will shape the future of gaming. If we let Corporate Managers decide, bad things always happen. Keep up the high voice! We are always heard no matter where we are!!

I don't understand why Sony didn't do this in first place...

 

[Maebe]

If the name is so offensive sony should not have let him create an account with it in the first place. Then he'd just choose something different to begin with. Now all they did was steal his stuff half a decade later.

Edit

New update:


I don't understand why Sony didn't do this in first place...

A good ending.

 

[Caayn]

New update:


I don't understand why Sony didn't do this in first place...

Wow. All that trouble for 2 seconds of work. Glad that he got this sorted out, sad that it needed to be done this way.

 

[fernoca]

New update:


I don't understand why Sony didn't do this in first place...

Well, at least a solution. Lost the trophies and he can send new friend requests to people he lost.

Hopefully there won't be any problens with his purchase history.

 

[Sane_Man]

New update:


I don't understand why Sony didn't do this in first place...

That's better. I'd be fucked off if I lost my trophies though. My Flappy Goat trophy cost me more than money, it cost me my sanity.

 

[Trup1aya]

I'm glad he has regained access to his account... It's a shame that it took dragging Sony's name through the mud for them to do the right thing.

Shame they can't recover his trophies... What year is this?

 

[TimeEffect]

Jiiii is such a shitty username.

Man, Sony, just let us change our fucking names or develop a universal nickname system please.

 

[jorma]

Sweet.

i'd still be pissed about the trophies though, but at least they didn't steal from him.

 

[tauroxd]

Sweet.

i'd still be pissed about the trophies though, but at least they didn't steal from him.

Yeah, at this point this is way better than just not having any sort of solution.

 

[Shift Breaker]

I'd be gutted if my trophies disappeared, but I'd be angry if I lost my purchases. Still, better than nothing.

Should have changed his name to FaintColt though.

 

[PtM]

New update:


I don't understand why Sony didn't do this in first place...

Because of the side effects? Or maybe there really were some automated shenanigans at work.

 

[Okami Haundo]

I'm glad he has regained access to his account... It's a shame that it took dragging Sony's name through the mud for them to do the right thing.

Shame they can't recover his trophies... What year is this?

PSN customer service can be pretty terrible, the same goes for their online policies. From name-changes to digital preorders that are non-refundable, they need some serious help.

In regards to losing trophies, friends, etc... from what I've read/heard, they used some crazy ass-backwards solution to establish PSN accounts starting on PS3. Now they have years and years of work done on top of a weak system that should have been designed properly from the start!

 

[mnannola]

No wonder Sony doesn't have the option for people to easily change their username. Their system looks like it needs some major rework if it currently wipes out friends lists and trophies. What the hell kind of system design did they do?

 

[stargateheaven]

So he loses everything.

He May aswell ve just made a new account

 

[Lebon14]

So he loses everything.

He May aswell ve just made a new account

No, he just lost his trophies and friend list. AFAIK, he still has his games and access to his account. Which, imo, is better than nothing!

 

[Vincent4756]

Glad to hear his issue got resolved!

Also doesn't this give us a little insight on why Sony doesn't have a name change system in place?

 

[Horp]

Great ending to this mess. Now, time to go educate your employees a bit on the concept of multiple cultures so we can avoid this in the future.

 

[YianGaruga]

so changing your name just means your trophies are gone? I'm sure people would be fine with that

doesn't seem like there are any impossible issues, the friends can be re-added

strange

 

[BY2K]

New update:


I don't understand why Sony didn't do this in first place...

Guess that explains why changing ID still isn't a thing on Sony platforms.

 

[Kinyou]

Good to see that he could get a name change.

Here's the question though - how should it be that a 16-year-old boy should know better than a multi-national corporation?

PSN should have just given an error message when he initially tried the name. If that's fair or not is then arguable but at least would no one lose tons of stuff.

 

[What did he mean by this?]

New update:


I don't understand why Sony didn't do this in first place...

We did it, NeoGAF !!!

 

[Bluenoser]

Good to see that he could get a name change.


PSN should have just given an error message when he initially tried the name. If that's fair or not is then arguable but at least would no one lose tons of stuff.

Yup, coming after him for that user name after 10 years is bullshit. If it was ok when he signed up, it should be ok now.

 

[Fatal Error]

I remember long age I saw a thread on a website somewhere about a tool that let you change your PSN name with the side effect of losing your trophies and friends, so it is true, but I will never do it, trophies are important to me.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

This is such a one sided issue that I fear the vast majority of the defence force in here are either racist or Sony fanboys. Sony should be ashamed. I feel bad for the poor dude.

Racist or fanboys... what? The world is that black or white to you?

We did it, NeoGAF !!!

More likely being top of reddit.

 

[Rellik]

Well I guess that explains why we can't change our names. They can't even do it themselves without wiping your account.

 

[mollipen]

Jiiii is such a shitty username.

Man, Sony, just let us change our fucking names or develop a universal nickname system please.

They have one in Japan. Have had it since before the PS4 launched, I believe. Why they don't have it all over? Who knows!

And, at this point, I'd happily take losing my friends/trophies if I could change my PSN name. I can just re-add my friends, and don't really care about trophies.

 

[bj00rn_]

Dude... No. As a Muslim, I know what I'm talking about with regards to this. Jihad means a war or fight, generally. Not only in terms of religious wars for the sake of Allah, but wars in general. In fact, the word is mainly used in Islam to describe an internal battle with ones self to overcome one's weaknesses and lusts. It's a way of improving one's self. Yes, recently it's been mainly used as a word to refer to physical religious war, but that's not where the word comes from, the media has created that connotation with the word.

Please, Google is your friend.

What the origin of the word is interesting in itself. But it doesn't really matter considering the meaning has actually been changed or skewed over time. This is not uncommon. Plenty of words have changed their meanings over time, one example being the word "gay".

The usage is not solely media created. We know for a fact that it started with religious political extremists who hijacked the concept to justify various forms of violence.

So the word has now an established current meaning, and everyone must take the consequences of that, right or wrong. No one can seriously expect Sony to let this go just like that, not when the world is what it is right now.

He should be given back his stuff though, of course.

 

[thenexus6]

What a shit show smh Sony..

I feel like nothing like this would've happened if it was on Xbox. Guy would've posted on reddit, post got enough attention, in pops Major Nelson and sorted. Sony is really lacking in this regard. They don't really have any faces in the community to turn to, and in my experience their customer service is terrible in general.

 

[hymanator]

You lose a lot more than trophies and your friends list. You also lose all of your progress in games that have a cloud save. Creations in LittleBigPlanet, progress in Destiny, online leaderboards, rankings, etc all are out the window. You don't lose your purchases at least, but it pretty much is on par with making a new account.

I'm not even sure if it's possible for Sony to implement a name change system that preserves 100% of everything tied to your account, unless games are individually updated to support it.

 

[Kolx]

They should have compensated him at least for his trophies and his friends. What a shit show.

 

[Okami Haundo]

You lose a lot more than trophies and your friends list. You also lose all of your progress in games that have a cloud save. Creations in LittleBigPlanet, progress in Destiny, online leaderboards, rankings, etc all are out the window. You don't lose your purchases at least, but it pretty much is on par with making a new account.

I'm not even sure if it's possible for Sony to implement a name change system that preserves 100% of everything tied to your account, unless games are individually updated to support it.

This doesn't sound like a name change, it's more like they created a new account and transferred his content licenses.

The only other explanation is that the PSN account system is somehow designed so that your actual Username is linked directly to all the unique functions/services you mentioned. Thus, changing that Username could permanently break the link in such a way that those values can't be transferred. As a result, the most they could do is re-assign the content licenses to the new Username based on what he used to have.

If the latter is the case, then the PSN account system is a thousand times more bonked than I ever thought possible.

 

[Tunavi]

Sony's honestly up there with Valve in terms of abysmal/non-existent support.

Valve lets you return digital purchases. Sony does not

 

[Citizen K]

now we see why Sony don't allow a PSN name change, their backend system is a total clusterfuck

 

[madjoki]

They should have compensated him at least for his trophies and his friends. What a shit show.

It's better than nothing.

Who develops databases without proper keys? I assume that's why they can't simply change display names.

I'm not even sure if it's possible for Sony to implement a name change system that preserves 100% of everything tied to your account, unless games are individually updated to support it.

It's possible, but probably would require large amounts of reworking system and downtime to implement changes.

 

[shanafan]

Jiiii is such a shitty username.

Man, Sony, just let us change our fucking names or develop a universal nickname system please.

Well hang on, did Sony give him that name or did he ask for it? I don't believe he mentioned it in the update.

 

[ChaosZeroX]

I'm not even sure if it's possible for Sony to implement a name change system that preserves 100% of everything tied to your account, unless games are individually updated to support it.

Microsoft achieved this a long time ago. You keep everything.

Well hang on, did Sony give him that name or did he ask for it? I don't believe he mentioned it in the update.

Sounds like Sony gave him that name. I hope they let him keep his purchases at least or gave him some compensation.

 

[Regginator]

I don't agree with the "better than nothing" sentiments here. If my parents for example called me Adolf, or by any chance my family name is Hilter, and I want to include it in my profile because I don't like nicknames, would that warrant a ban as well? Adolf is a very common name, but because of Hitler it's a name that immediately gets associated with World War 2.

 

[TheYanger]

This isn't a name change, they just created a new account and transferred his content licenses. I'm not sure why it's being communicated otherwise.

Do you actually have any proof to what you're saying? It sure sounds like a name change based on what they did and how it's affecting the guy, their system is just shit. It's never been that they CAN'T change names, it's that the way it handles user ids (IE: it basically doesn't) makes it fucked.

You lose a lot more than trophies and your friends list. You also lose all of your progress in games that have a cloud save. Creations in LittleBigPlanet, progress in Destiny, online leaderboards, rankings, etc all are out the window. You don't lose your purchases at least, but it pretty much is on par with making a new account.

I'm not even sure if it's possible for Sony to implement a name change system that preserves 100% of everything tied to your account, unless games are individually updated to support it.

It's absolutely possible. It's just a matter of them finally doing it. It's going to cost money, time, and probably PSN shutting down for a day or two at the very least. Also they might have to deal with some things being fucked afterwards. Doesn't mean they shouldn't do it, however. It's only going to become more of a problem the longer they let it sit.

 

[test_account]

The person who did the banning DID know it was his name. Then they took a second look at the situation, affirming that they understand it's his name, and kept the ban in place rather than letting him change it.

It's ignorant and inexcusable That it hasn't already been fixed.

Ok, i see. When i made my first post in this thread, that part wasnt in the OP, at least not from what i saw, so i replied out from that. But sure, i never disputed anything else than what you're saying here, and i will still say that i'm hoping that it will be fixed regardless.

EDIT: Seems that it has somewhat been fixed now.

 

[FonkyByNature]

If it would have been me, i would just boycott everything Sony.

The "better than nothing" excuse doesn't apply here, the guy lost his trophies and friends list which is already shitty as it is even if he got his games and all that back. I hope at least he chose his username and Sony didn't just create a random one for him...

Sony should be doing everything possible to compensate the guy. He's a customer of their products for god's sake and brings them money, not a thief.

This is where Sony's network has big weaknesses. Bad username ? build everything from scratch.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

I'm glad he got his purchases back but Jesus... I don't trust Sony anymore with name changes. If they implement them in the future, I'm sure it will have problems.

Guess I'll just make a new account.

 

[MaulerX]

What a shit show smh Sony..

I feel like nothing like this would've happened if it was on Xbox. Guy would've posted on reddit, post got enough attention, in pops Major Nelson and sorted. Sony is really lacking in this regard. They don't really have any faces in the community to turn to, and in my experience their customer service is terrible in general.

Although MS charges $10 to change your name, in a situation like this they would actually let you change your name for free (one time curtesy). If you continue picking offensive names then you have to pay.

In this particular case it's awesome that this guy was able to retain his purchases (at the cost of losing everything else). That's a fair trade off all things considered and given the circumstances.

But losing Trophies, game saves etc... is not acceptable for the majority who would just like to change their name. That back-end needs a major overhaul.

 

[TheYanger]

Although MS charges $10 to change your name, in a situation like this they would actually let you change your name for free (one time curtesy). If you continue picking offensive names then you have to pay.

In this particular case it's awesome that this guy was able to retain his purchases (at the cost of losing everything else). That's a fair trade off all things considered and given the circumstances.

But losing Trophies, game saves etc... is not acceptable for the majority who would just like to change their name. That back-end needs a major overhaul.

It's really not 'fair' at all actually. It just shows how much they NEED to invest in fixing this shit. I understand wanting to make him change his name, and I'm sure he does too, but the fact that he has to compromise in any way at all is way beyond 'fair' and is actually just shit.

 

[Bgamer90]

lol, the only ridiculous thing is this faux outrage. Sony is right for banning it and everyone knows it (they should compensate him for account spendings though)

I don't get this, if his name was " Kill All NON MUSLIMS " in Arabic or " KILL ALL ARABS " in whatever language, that is ok as well because that's his name ? his name has offended meaning. period.

While I don't agree with the permeant banning, the name Omar is actually used for many other religions outside islam so no they cant ban that. however. the name Jihad even in Arabic it implies to fight for the name of Allah ( as in go to war against not muslim ) that is the true meaning of the Jihad ( as far as I can tell ) which while might be acceptable for countries that does have the Islam religion as a main religion, its not for the rest of the world.

This alone will cause fear and disturbance around non muslim people when they go online and someone has a screen name of Jihad etc. who knows what these people might think.

if my parents named me Jihad and I want to move to a non muslim country. sure as hell I am going to change my name. for the sake of not offending other people from different culture and religion. and for the sake of not being treated with racism because of a stupid first name regardless what is that name.

IF you move to a country that is NOT your country, you should respect and follow their culture. not go against it in the name of freedom and human rights.

same goes for companies like Sony , Microsoft and Nintendo. I highly doubt they are muslim companies. if you want to be in their network, respect their policy and other people around the world. you don't live in your own little world.

oh and for the record I am a muslim ( well,, half ) but you get the idea

Sony should just force him to change his screen name and that's it.

This is as dumb as saying it's offensive to name a person "Christian" because of close-minded atheists. Unbelievable...

 

[Okami Haundo]

Do you actually have any proof to what you're saying? It sure sounds like a name change based on what they did and how it's affecting the guy, their system is just shit. It's never been that they CAN'T change names, it's that the way it handles user ids (IE: it basically doesn't) makes it fucked.

Bad choice of wording on my part and I appreciate you calling me out on it. I edited my original post accordingly.

 

[PtM]

Microsoft achieved this a long time ago. You keep everything.

Because they designed it for that. Sony didn't. Now they're stuck with a subpar architecture unless they (partially) tear it down and rebuild it.

This is as dumb as saying it's offensive to name a person "Christian" because of close-minded atheists. Unbelievable...

Only if close-minded atheists make up your main clientele.