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[Boke1879]

Like someone said. With his rise to fame comes heavy scrutiny. People start to dig into your past.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Has a silver bullet finally been found?

lol nah, if anything it will be the usual "liberals" defending him

 

[EdibleKnife]

Like I said in the other topic, I wouldn't be surprised if the right continues to embrace him with how many GOP legislators and constituents continued to embrace and defend Josh Duggar and his family.

 

[Killthee]

Want to see his "free speech" fans try to defend this shit.

 

[Boke1879]

lol nah, if anything it will be the usual "liberals" defending him

Nah, this is a big no no

 

[Slayven]

Like I said in the other topic, I wouldn't be surprised if the right continues to embrace him with how many GOP legislators and constituents continued to embrace and defend Josh Duggar and his family.

You expect Milo to pray and ask god forgiveness?

 

[Boke1879]

Like I said in the other topic, I wouldn't be surprised if the right continues to embrace him with how many GOP legislators and constituents continued to embrace and defend Josh Duggar and his family.

In the mind if bigots and conservatives Milo is gay and he plays into that bullshit boogeyman for them. Now he's advocating this shit? It's easy for them to dump him

 

[Messofanego]

He basically became like JGL in Mysterious Skin who gets sexually abused as a pre-adolescent boy by an older man and becomes a prostitute.

 

[RedHill]

Ah, and someone was just defending him last night. Sad!

 

[Ms.Galaxy]

I wonder if Milo is a member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association, that would probably get him in a lot of hot water.

We need to get this man on a late night talk show, quick! Surely he'll be eviscerated for all the public to see, defeating Milo once and for all.

Please no, let's not give pedophilia a platform. Last thing I need is people normalizing sexual relationships with 13 year olds.

 

[Blader]

We need to get this man on a late night talk show, quick! Surely he'll be eviscerated for all the public to see, defeating Milo once and for all.

 

[EdibleKnife]

You expect Milo to pray and ask god forgiveness?

LOL If faking it means he can still make money as a fake news shill for the right, I wouldn't be surprised

In the mind if bigots and conservatives Milo is gay and he plays into that bullshit boogeyman for them. Now he's advocating this shit? It's easy for them to dump him

Eh you're probably right

 

[Volimar]

We need to get this man on a late night talk show, quick! Surely he'll be eviscerated for all the public to see, defeating Milo once and for all.

So the host can softball him the whole time and only after the main show is over do people take him apart.

 

[Toxi]

Why can't dril be the one who's an inspiration to delporables everywhere instead of this Milo cunt?

Because dril is too good for them.

 

[Sianos]

Do people realize that the whole alt-right terminology, whilst initially used by the alt-right to differentiate themselves from the "cuckservatives" who would never "go far enough" on social conservative "issues", was adopted by the left to give the supposedly more reasonable conservatives cover? I agree with the principle that you should be careful with who you call a nazi - for instance, you shouldn't call people who are just for lower taxes and less regulation but have empathy for people of other races nazis - but we should call the disgusting contingent that has taken over the Republican party what it is: it's what they'd want, only with some actual nuance as well. It's more nuanced different from yelling about RADICAL ***ISLAMIC*** TERRORISM because we're instead trying to differentiate the moderates from the radical contingent without trying to connotatively associate the moderates in with the filth. Yet we still call out terrorist filth as terrorist filth! Meanwhile, we have to pretend that white nationalists and neo nazis are just as reasonable as the moderate fiscal conservatives.

How about this: every time someone says that Milo and his ilk aren't obvious white nationalists and nazis - the "lol just joking, so edgy" defense doesn't give infinite plausible deniability, especially when one repeatedly espouses their rhetoric - the entire right wing gets to be lumped into their category. Since apparently Milo is just another conservative, that must mean that the average conservative is approximate to Milo.

I guess it takes explicit advocacy for pedophilia to break the veil of plausible deniability, huh?

I suspect going forward we won't see people protesting Milo and his beliefs being properly labelled as neo nazi trash now - now it will be that calling him "just another conservative provocateur" is an insult against the people who would totally never tolerate someone as gross as him! Which is odd, because it's not like his rhetoric has changed in any way.

Lay down among dogs and you get up with fleas.

 

[Air]

Saw this earlier. I still don't really know how to respond to it

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Nah, this is a big no no

For some of them it will come down to whether or not free speech as they understand it is under attack, since they don't care about victims.

They probably won't be as vocal about it though

 

[Toxi]

Saw this earlier. I still don't really know how to respond to it

Revulsion?

That's certainly my response.

 

[Sianos]

Saw this earlier. I still don't really know how to respond to it

With a distinct lack of surprise?

 

[Breads]

Waiting to see what his defenders have to say about it. The mental gymnastics have been hilarious so far. The lack of utter upheaval however has been disheartening. Hopefully this talking point sticks and is brought up endlessly whenever he speaks.

 

[rjinaz]

Revulsion?

That's certainly my response.

I mean yeah. In his mind if a kid hits puberty, then they are good to go for sex, with older men at that. It's pretty sick. It completely ignores mental development and any consequences there. Not too mention him pretty much advocating for older men to teach young teen boys because in his mind it makes them better at sex like it did for him.

 

[Frozenprince]

As someone who was molested as a young boy, I feel sorry for Milo if that is something that happened to him. But I hold a very, very special hatred for him for parroting and normalizing the same fucked up rationalization that many adult men use to excuse forcing themselves on young boys. That, "I'll help you understand these feelings," "don't worry, this is only because we're really close," bullshit is out of the standard sexual abusers playbook. And no, that shit is not comforting. No, that shit does not make you feel loved. It makes you feel frightened within an inch of your life.

Milo deserves a good elbow to his fucking throat for that.

A-fucking-men. Hope he gets his jaw smashed.

 

[royalan]

Saw this earlier. I still don't really know how to respond to it

Milo admits to being friends with a man who frequently kept underage boys at his home, gave them drugs, and had sex with them.

In another video, he defends that behavior as one that is healthy for young gay boys coming of age.

And you don't know how to feel about that?

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

So NAMBLA?

 

[Beefy]

As a abuse victim I feel sick reading this, normalizing abuse of children is so so fucked up. As a bi guy I hate we have a person like this that is associated with the LGBT+.

 

[Ms.Galaxy]

So NAMBLA?

They have the same line of logic, so likely.

 

[Oblivion]

Here's his full "explanation":

A note for idiots (UPDATED):

I do not support pedophilia. Period. It is a vile and disgusting crime, perhaps the very worst. There are selectively edited videos doing the rounds, as part of a co-ordinated effort to discredit me from establishment Republicans, that suggest I am soft on the subject.

If it somehow comes across (through my own sloppy phrasing or through deceptive editing) that I meant any of the ugly things alleged, let me set the record straight: I am completely disgusted by the abuse of children.

Some facts to consider:

1. I have outed THREE pedophiles in my career as a journalist. That's three more than any of my critics and a peculiar strategy for a supposed pedophile apologist.

(a) Luke Bozier, former business partner of Louise Mensch
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/…/menshn-co-founder-embroile…/
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/…/…/3746/luke-bozier-arrested/

(b) Nicholas Nyberg, anti-GamerGate activist who self-described as a pedophile and white nationalist
http://www.breitbart.com/…/leading-gamergate-critic-sarah-…/

(c) Chris Leydon, a London photographer who has a rape trial starting March 13 thanks to my reporting.
http://www.breitbart.com/…/tech-city-darling-chris-leydon-…/

2. I have repeatedly expressed disgust at pedophiles in my journalism.
http://www.breitbart.com/…/heres-why-the-progressive-left-…/

3. I have never defended and would never defend child abusers, as my reporting history shows. The world is messy and complicated, and I recognize it as such, as this furore demonstrates. But that is a red line for any decent person.

4. The videos do not show what people say they show. I *did* joke about giving better head as a result of clerical sexual abuse committed against me when I was a teen. If I choose to deal in an edgy way on an internet livestream with a crime I was the victim of that's my prerogative. It's no different to gallows humor from AIDS sufferers.

5. National Review, whose journalists are tweeting about this, published an article defending Salon for giving a pedophile a platform.

6. I did say that there are relationships between younger men and older men that can help a young gay man escape from a lack of support or understanding at home. That's perfectly true and every gay man knows it. But I was not talking about anything illegal and I was not referring to pre-pubescent boys.

7. I said in the same "Drunken Peasants" podcast from which the footage is taken that I agree with the current age of consent.

8. I shouldn't have used the word "boy" when I talked about those relationships between older men and younger gay men. (I was talking about my own relationship when I was 17 with a man who was 29. The age of consent in the UK is 16.) That was a mistake. Gay men often use the word "boy" when they refer to consenting adults. I understand that heterosexual people might not know that, so it was a sloppy choice of words that I regret.

9. This rush to judgment from establishment conservatives who hate Trump as much as they hate me, before I have had any chance to provide context or a response, is one of the big reasons gays vote Democrat.

10. In case there is any lingering doubt, here's me, in the same interview the other footage is taken from, affirming that the current legal age of consent is about right: "And I think the law is probably about right. It's probably roughly the right age. I think it's probably about ok. But there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age. I certainly consider myself to be one of them, people who were sexually active younger. I think it particularly happens in the gay world, by the way."

 

[Got]

Here's his full "explanation":

lol, he thinks he's a journalist

 

[nomis]

Here's his full "explanation":

17

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

 

[Toxi]

For someone who's obsessed with PR, Milo surprisingly didn't learn a basic rule: When there's video evidence, a written reponse does nothing.

 

[rjinaz]

That's perfectly true and every gay man knows it. But I was not talking about anything illegal and I was not referring to pre-pubescent boys.

Yes you were Milo. yes you were. In your mind if they hit puberty they are good to go, but that's not what the law says.

I certainly consider myself to be one of them, people who were sexually active younger. I think it particularly happens in the gay world, by the way."

Seems like we need receipts for this. Gay boys tend to be more sexually active at younger ages than straight boys?

 

[nomis]

When there's video evidence, a written reponse does nothing.

Ya but the video was 'shopped by regressive leftist feminist snowflake globalist zionist gender nonbinary cucks

with videoshop

 

[Air]

Milo admits to being friends with a man who frequently kept underage boys at his home, gave them drugs, and had sex with them.

In another video, he defends that behavior as one that is healthy for young gay boys coming of age.

And you don't know how to feel about that?

I mean I don't know how to verbalize my distaste and shock that he is defending pedophilia. Last I read there's some conservative push back so that's good. I'm just puzzled how this rabbit hole of human depravation that is the alt-right, can continually reach new lows.

Revulsion?

That's certainly my response.

Yeah, I'm feeling a lot of that

With a distinct lack of surprise?

You're right, tbh

 

[Fulminator]

as expected, no mention of this on r/the_donald

 

[Riposte]

So, Yiannopoulos is finally defeated by letting people hear the dumb shit he says. Not quite the victory for "no platform" hardliners, such as the antifa rioters, were asking for, but I can't see why they would complain.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Alt-Righters will lose their goddamn minds over Pizzagate but Milo defends pedophilia and its ok

 

[Sianos]

Waiting to see what his defenders have to say about it. The mental gymnastics have been hilarious so far. The lack of utter upheaval however has been disheartening. Hopefully this talking point sticks and is brought up endlessly whenever he speaks.

It will be very interesting to see if anyone tries to make the argument against Milo that NOW he should be no-platformed (from CPAC, in this case) because of his views on age of consent laws, because they view it as harmful to debate age of consent laws... that did not have the same concerns with debates on the humanity of minorities.

 

[thepotatoman]

Here's his full "explanation":

What happened to the big bad troll that thinks the world could do with a little more meanness.

Seems like someone touched a nerve on the snowflake.

 

[Toxi]

So, Yiannopoulos is finally defeated by letting people hear the dumb shit he says. Not quite the victory for "no platform" hardliners, such as the antifa rioters, were asking for, but I can't see why they would complain.

LOL I wish

This cunt ain't going anywhere.

 

[Dylan]

We're giving him attention, which is exactly what he wants!
We need to debate his defense of pedophilia rationally in a free expression of ideas.
It's Milo's freedom of speech, and that's what most important here!

Pick whichever one of these three fucking awful talking points gets used first by some dipshit rushing in to defend this.

Can I pick #1?

This guy wouldn't be famous if the people who dislike him didn't make him into a celebrity.

He has nothing new or insightful to say about anything. He is just a troll.

 

[royalan]

Here's his full "explanation":

Oh fucking spare me.

It didn't take any editing for you to passionately defend me who intentionally enter into sexual relationships with young teenage boys.

 

[PixelatedBookake]

Holy shit I've never listened to this piece of shit before but, damn its so fucking creepy that he is so well spoken and stoic that its kind of like a fucking super-villain. Its like whenever he speaks he's trying to brainwash dumb people who are afraid of saying what he thinks. I honestly think this shitbag isn't capable of being a decent human being. It's disgusting. He's just a fucking disgusting guy. I think this guy is exponentially worse than Trump. Holy shit.

 

[thepotatoman]

So, Yiannopoulos is finally defeated by letting people hear the dumb shit he says. Not quite the victory for "no platform" hardliners, such as the antifa rioters, were asking for, but I can't see why they would complain.

Let's at least wait until CPAC cancels him before claiming a full victory here.

 

[rjinaz]

Can I pick #1?

This guy wouldn't be famous if the people who dislike him didn't make him into a celebrity.

He has nothing new or insightful to say about anything. He is just a troll.

Eh, I think things turned out ok in the end. He may continue to be a troll on the internet but he's no longer going to be able to go mainstream, essentially silenced.

Let's at least wait until CPAC cancels him before claiming a full victory here.

Fair.

 

[Matty77]

I already despised this sack of shit and believe in speaking out not ignoring. But this crosses my one immovable line, as a former victim of sexual abuse I don't feel bad at all saying I hope he drops dead and dies horribly in agony and pain.

Fuck him.

 

[Ms.Galaxy]

So, Yiannopoulos is finally defeated by letting people hear the dumb shit he says. Not quite the victory for "no platform" hardliners, such as the antifa rioters, were asking for, but I can't see why they would complain.

It's very naive of you to believe he is "finally" defeated. I will say this is a wound to him, but it's not fatal. There's millions of adults that agree with him on this filth, and the alt right are well known to be deep in this "ephebophilia" shit. It's disgusting, but this is but a flesh wound for him.

 

[Breads]

Here's his full "explanation":

If I am forced to go through the DP podcast and Joe Rogan podcast to find the clips in full I will because that is utter bullshit. Deceptive editing.... give me a fucking break. Funny how free speech champion is quit to editorialize coverage of him speaking freely.

 

[Frozenprince]

"A note to idiots"

Fuck you, you spent time defending a pedophile in no uncertain terms because of whatever fucked up reason was in your head and now you're dancing around it.

If you believe pedophilia is a vile, unthinkable and unimaginable crime then why the fuck are you making that vile Father Matthews joke in the first place?

Someone break. His. Jaw.

 

[Nanashrew]

Going to say it in the most eloquent way possible. Milo can burn in hell.

 

[royalan]

oh, and this is ESPECIALLY rich:

10. In case there is any lingering doubt, here's me, in the same interview the other footage is taken from, affirming that the current legal age of consent is about right: "And I think the law is probably about right. It's probably roughly the right age. I think it's probably about ok. But there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age. I certainly consider myself to be one of them, people who were sexually active younger. I think it particularly happens in the gay world, by the way."

Translation: "I think I agree with the age of consent...except, you know, when the boy seems like way mature for his age."

THIS IS A TEXTBOOK EXCUSE.

And really fuck off with the implication that because it allegedly happens more often in the "gay world' that it's somehow ok.