Son Of Sparda
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Oh God. This is too much.Cue the "2B had a hard life" compilation image.
Edit: I'll do it.
Eheheheee ehehehe, time to cry myself to sleep.
Oh God. This is too much.Cue the "2B had a hard life" compilation image.
Edit: I'll do it.
Eheheheee ehehehe, time to cry myself to sleep.
Almost every side quest has story significance, it's kinda fantastic.I was doing some side quests I missed as 9S and I did the Amnesia quest. Huh, they laid down that E-type YoRHa thing pretty early compared to when it actually comes up in the story. Wish I had done that quest before finishing the game, would have been neat.
Almost every side quest has story significance, it's kinda fantastic.
21B's fight has her referencing her sidequest chain, Devola and Popolas roles are established through their side quest chain, one has a pair of androids who are a couple, but one keeps reformatting the other whenever there's an issue in some twisted inverse of 2B's and 9S's relationship.
Hell, 2B is outright given an assassination mission in one side quest. Put it together with Amnesia and that creates the foreshadowing of 2B's identity. Something you'd have missed had you not gone out of your way to do the optional content.
I was doing some side quests I missed as 9S and I did the Amnesia quest. Huh, they laid down that E-type YoRHa thing pretty early compared to when it actually comes up in the story. Wish I had done that quest before finishing the game, would have been neat.
Almost every side quest has story significance, it's kinda fantastic.
21B's fight has her referencing her sidequest chain, Devola and Popolas roles are established through their side quest chain, one has a pair of androids who are a couple, but one keeps reformatting the other whenever there's an issue in some twisted inverse of 2B's and 9S's relationship.
Hell, 2B is outright given an assassination mission in one side quest. Put it together with Amnesia and that creates the foreshadowing of 2B's identity. Something you'd have missed had you not gone out of your way to do the optional content.
Also really bums me out when people say "tedious sidequests", like they aren't paying attention to the events, and only the rewards they get.
Also what up Gyro avatar buddy
Drakengard's soundtrack is a horrific cacophany of dissonance and loud noises, but it is perfect.
Drakengard 3 has some of the most beautiful and listenable tracks in the series, but it also has a bunch of electronic music that kind of channels D1's madness. I'm not a big fan of most of the electronic tracks though.
1)Tthe backdoor into the bunker was created to unlock after a set amount of time, so the machines could destroy YoRHa, specifically the evidence that humanity is extinct. The war is eternal because without it, the androids and machines would lose their only purpose, so both sides have failsafes in place to prevent them winning.Finished this last night, and while I went in expecting the harsh emotions NieR 1 left with me, I still came out satisfied. Instead of feeling remorse and regret for cheering on Papa NieR, I just feel emptiness. It was like Yoko Taro took Bioshock: Infinite's ending and learned from their mistakes.
I tried reading through this thread, but I have missed it.
The only thing I never got an answer to is: who was behind the Androids?
I keep thinking of two scenarios:
1) Androids and Machines both idolize humans and want to become as close to them as possible. Thus their never ending wars done to push evolution. But this makes me wonder why the Bunker had backdoor access for the Machines.
2) Machines made androids based off of the only Androids in NieR, Devola and Popola, (the other "people" were repilicants designed to accept gestalts). These Androids were designed to be pushed into an orchestrated war to help the Machine evolve, but then grew consciousness, which would fit with the theme of the series.
If I'm wrong in either of these, please rip them apart and educate me. I'd rather know the most accurate theories than hold onto my own.
I'm still surprised how insignificant Adam and Eve turned out to be. Really glad I avoiding all information on this game because I was expecting them to be the main villains, didn't expect devola and popola and thought they were up to no good when they came as well as expecting 2b to be the main playable character. Btw is there any updates on jean Paul or does he just go off on his own journeys.
I'm still surprised how insignificant Adam and Eve turned out to be. Really glad I avoiding all information on this game because I was expecting them to be the main villains, didn't expect devola and popola and thought they were up to no good when they came as well as expecting 2b to be the main playable character. Btw is there any updates on jean Paul or does he just go off on his own journeys.
God the music in this game is so on point.We all love this track from Auto tho right?
https://youtu.be/072DckaeibM?t=2m17s
We all love this track from Auto tho right?
https://youtu.be/072DckaeibM?t=2m17s
Cue the "2B had a hard life" compilation image.
Edit: I'll do it.
Eheheheee ehehehe, time to cry myself to sleep.
1)Tthe backdoor into the bunker was created to unlock after a set amount of time, so the machines could destroy YoRHa, specifically the evidence that humanity is extinct. The war is eternal because without it, the androids and machines would lose their only purpose, so both sides have failsafes in place to prevent them winning.
The old dude who lost his dog sidequest, which is really easy and pretty early in the game, is one of the more memorable and emotionally effective (to me at least, as I love dogs) parts of the original NieR, and the sidequest takes all of like 10 minutes to do. The reward didn't even matter.
We all love this track from Auto tho right?
https://youtu.be/072DckaeibM?t=2m17s
We all love this track from Auto tho right?
https://youtu.be/072DckaeibM?t=2m17s
One of the best parts about knowing everything about the game is watching other people think they figured things out early on. I love keeping watch of reactions when it comes to games like this.
This entire game I was like: "ooh watch.. X is gonna do Y because Z" I was almost always (gladly) wrong.
The only things I got right were: Humans and Aliens were already dead. I had a inkling the tower could send machine data to space, but wasn't confident enough to say I called it.
We all love this track from Auto tho right?
https://youtu.be/072DckaeibM?t=2m17s
I always play dumb when it comes to shit like this, because I don't like doing a million guesses and hoping I'm right. But yea, my gist was machines and androids aren't so different, and that some dark shit would befall Pascal, that Devola and Popola are evil, but other than that, I didn't give it much thought. Just let the story carry me where it wanted to.
Also y'all were confusing the hell out of me with the implications of having to make some big scary choice for Route C/D. Once I realized what it was, I was like "Nooooooooooooo"
I mean yea, I can just do the other route afterwards, but in that moment, I'm like "Noooooooooooooooooooo", don't fight guys!
One bit of hindsight symbolism that I don't see mentioned too much but really like is the scene where 9S confronts a shadowy figure in his mindspace that attacking his memories of 2B. He shouts at the figure to leave his memories alone, then stabs the hell out of it, only for the shadows to dissipate and reveal 2B, who 9S continues to stab.
On the surface, it's just some shocking imagery caused by the machine network fucking with 9S.
But think about it. Who is it that keeps killing 9S, causing his memories of 2B to be erased? 2B herself. That's why the shadowy figure was 2B.
this fucking game
Apparently when Adam tells 9S that "he wants to *** 2B", it's sorta inferred that he's actually saying that 9S wants to kill her.
Damn, everything in this game means more than first glance, huh.One bit of hindsight symbolism that I don't see mentioned too much but really like is the scene where 9S confronts a shadowy figure in his mindspace that's attacking his memories of 2B. He shouts at the figure to leave his memories alone, then stabs the hell out of it, only for the shadows to dissipate and reveal 2B, who 9S continues to stab.
On the surface, it's just some shocking imagery caused by the machine network fucking with 9S.
But think about it. Who is it that keeps killing 9S, causing his memories of 2B to be erased? 2B herself. That's why the shadowy figure was 2B.
For sure. The Nier DLC also had some great electronic remixes on it.
Damn, everything in this game means more than first glance, huh.
Alright. In that case, can anyone explain why 21O started treating 9S like a child at the start of route C? Cause that's the one thing that stands out to me that I just can't figure out.
Damn, everything in this game means more than first glance, huh.
Damn, everything in this game means more than first glance, huh.
Alright. In that case, can anyone explain why 21O started treating 9S like a child at the start of route C? Cause that's the one thing that stands out to me that I just can't figure out.
Edit: Wait hold on. Was she treating him like a son/ little brother because she wanted a family? That just hit me the moment I posted this, but I'm still not sure.
I like that it can be:
- 9S wanting to fuck 2B
- 9S wanting to kill 2B
- A half-meta statement regarding how a lot of people really like 2B's design
21O wants a family.
The androids don't have genitals tho.I like that it can be:
- 9S wanting to fuck 2B
- 9S wanting to kill 2B
- A half-meta statement regarding how a lot of people really like 2B's design
Cue the "2B had a hard life" compilation image.
Edit: I'll do it.
Eheheheee ehehehe, time to cry myself to sleep.
One bit of hindsight symbolism that I don't see mentioned too much but really like is the scene where 9S confronts a shadowy figure in his mindspace that's attacking his memories of 2B. He shouts at the figure to leave his memories alone, then stabs the hell out of it, only for the shadows to dissipate and reveal 2B, who 9S continues to stab.
On the surface, it's just some shocking imagery caused by the machine network fucking with 9S.
But think about it. Who is it that keeps killing 9S, causing his memories of 2B to be erased? 2B herself. That's why the shadowy figure was 2B.
For sure. The Nier DLC also had some great electronic remixes on it.
It's hinted in the game that despite his memories being wiped everytime.....9S was somehow aware of 2B's reality but perhaps didn't want to accept it and buried it within.this fucking game
Apparently when Adam tells 9S that "he wants to **** 2B", it's sorta inferred that he's actually saying that 9S wants to kill her.
Is there any sidequest that actually explains A2's past? Because her ending was the most confusing one to me. Or maybe there are more details on her in the World Book?
And what about 6O for 2b. That girl had her whole redemption arc getting over her tragic romance. Jackass is the best though. The report she writes about the machines at the end puts her on top.
It's funny because love is another 4-letter word that fits. Fits in Japanese as well. Thanks, Jackass.
The androids don't have genitals tho.
Also is it just me or is A2 actually....Mostly naked? Most of her clothes seem to be just skin that peeled off.
Is there any sidequest that actually explains A2's past? Because her ending was the most confusing one to me. Or maybe there are more details on her in the World Book?
There's a novella (which is a summary of the Pearl Harbor stage play) you can access near the terminal behind Anemone at the camp. You'd have to watch the stageplay for more details, though.
Did you read the stuff from the terminal?
It's more atmospheric than it has any right to be, and it has some Drakengard 1 fanservice text blurbs.
It was mostly arenas but it was also one of the better ways of grinding for upgrade materials, if I remember correctly.
I'm on my first playthrough, but I need to know now whether or not somebody can explain this?
Edit: Answered aboveI'm on my first playthrough, but I need to know now whether or not somebody can explain this?
Related to a secret later on in the game
What I was thinking about last night:
Pascal just wants to acquire and disseminate knowledge and live in peace. And the other machines and androids just want to kill each other because that's the way things have always be and the way things should always be. Because, if not for that, then what would they live for? To add to that, both sides have effectively deified humans.
Pascal is an intellectual trapped in a world of religious conservatives. And he suffers horribly for it.
(Although, it's possible that he has his own reverence for humans, but whereas the others are interested in tangible representations of humanity and its past, he's more interested in philosophy and the nuances of existence. In fact, he's really the only one with a grasp on what it means to be, as we understand it. How does this naive little robot in a ramshackle village with goofy inhabitants end up being the most tragic character. fak.)
Not sure if that was referring to this but I remember Emil saying that he created multiple versions of himself to combat the aliens but all of them were lost. I guess some of them were huge? Maybe.