That happened last night actually. I seriously don't know what Allan Hallman was doing at the convention? I wonder if someone in the kenney camp knew that he was going to the convention? It's nice to hear that he at least he was dealt with properly by the authorities. Starke also got booed early during his final convention speech for saying things that the delegates that were at the convention did not like.
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Canadian PoliGAF - 42nd Parliament: Sunny Ways in Trudeaupia
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That happened last night actually. I seriously don't know what Allan Hallman was doing at the convention? I wonder if someone in the kenney camp knew that he was going to the convention? It's nice to hear that he at least he was dealt with properly by the authorities. Starke also got booed early during his final convention speech for saying things that the delegates that were at the convention did not like.
Oh was that last night? Must've read the article incorrectly.
Jason Kenney is now promising to repeal everything the Alberta NDP has passed if the united conservative party wins the next provincial election.Wow.
https://twitter.com/EmmaLGraney/status/843235721963962368
https://twitter.com/EmmaLGraney/status/843235721963962368
cryptosporidium
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wut. Seriously the hate for the AB NDP is stupid, no matter your leanings you cant really fault them for too much. They seem to be fairly competent. though if yall want to educate me im fine with that
I predict this will devolve into him being asked about a raft of sensible changes they've made and saying he's not going to repeal those.
They aren't bad but they could be doing better. They could have handled things like Bill 6 better. I'm still going to vote for them in the next provincial election because I don't want a united conservative party anywere near power and I think they are doing fine in power. I find it kinda insane kenney actually said something like that. He really needs to clarify what he meant by that statement.
Jason Kenney won on first ballot: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...berta-pc-leadership-on-first-ballot-1.4031408
By the way, the Edmonton Journal's Graham Thompson put out a really interesting article about a recent unite the right poll... Kenney is fourth place in popularity, behind (in order): Brian Jean, Someone Else, and Not Sure. http://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...-lead-to-win-albertas-race-to-unite-the-right
By the way, the Edmonton Journal's Graham Thompson put out a really interesting article about a recent unite the right poll... Kenney is fourth place in popularity, behind (in order): Brian Jean, Someone Else, and Not Sure. http://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...-lead-to-win-albertas-race-to-unite-the-right
Insert usual caveat about polling the general population about a party leadership question here.
That, and a lot can happen in the coming months.
Some people were also speculating that there would be a snap election called soon... not sure about the chances of that happening.
There's like a zero percent chance of that happening.The Alberta NDP knows what happened in the last snap election. I don't think the Alberta NDP is in the mood to call an election before 2019.
I agree; it's better to let the two right parties possibly self-implode.
So, where will the centrist vote go now? Alberta party? NDP?
AB NDP, AB Liberals, AB Party.The NDP will pick up a lot of these centrist voters.So will the AB Party and I am not sure about the AB Liberals.
Also lol at people already predicting that the eventual united conservative party will obliterate the Alberta NDP.
Too busy enjoying Costa Rica to check his emails
Even with that surge of support I don't think the AB Party will overtake the two conservative parties or the eventual united conservative party in polls.I just don't want centrists to be divided between the AB NDP and the AB Party.At least the good thing is that greg clark plans to run candidates in all the provincial ridings in the next provincial election.
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Well they arrested one of the two truckers now http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/montreal/trucker-arrested-highway-13-1.4031452
By the sound of it they should have done that 20 minutes into the traffic jam.
matthewwhatever
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Even better option: this leads to the Alberta right splintering further, so you have the new party, the PC holdouts, and a Wildrose splinter group too.
Because -- as I think you/Alberta's Chief Electoral Officer pointed out -- the PCs have to retire to retire that massive debt before they can go anywhere, and if Wildrose wants to join in Kennedy's new party, they need to dispose of their millions in assets too.
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Not only that, but the assets can't be transferred between the two parties either, so it's not like they can use WR's assets to pay off the PCs.
I haven't checked the news this morning, but there's some speculation online that Kenney won't even seek a seat until the new party is formed.
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I'm not well versed in Albertan provincial politics, but LOL at Kenney repackaging Trump's slogan
"We want Alberta back!"
LOL
it's just a Province, Kenney
"We want Alberta back!"
LOL
it's just a Province, Kenney
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the bachelor is talking live on CBC News World;
he brought up the Canadian Alliance merger with the PC Federally as an example.
LOL, the mic is broken
he brought up the Canadian Alliance merger with the PC Federally as an example.
LOL, the mic is broken
Doesn't help that Preston Manning is trying to help him by attempting to get rid of the Alberta Party again.
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The PC party threw her out over expense controversies and probably more for being a woman. A lot of criticism of her was very gendered. That also helps illuminate all the hate Notley gets for being a Woman with power in Alberta.
The Bernier campaign is now accusing the O'Leary campaign of attemped vote-buying, and had some people swear out an affidavit to that effect.
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Trump proves that it's a winning strategy!
matthewwhatever
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Kevin O'Leary, deciding that the best way for the Conservatives to rebound from losing all their seats in Atlantic Canada is to...say something that will make his party even more unpopular in Atlantic Canada:
KernelPanic
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Run the country like a business. Where have I heard that before.
I got a letter from Premier Clark this morning, very pleasant and was surprised she took the time to write back. I'm amused the official provincial letter has a photo of her for I have no idea why.
So far two letters and kudos from the Van Consulate. I guess it just takes a long time. Incoming dual Prime Minister packages coming then I guess. lol
So far two letters and kudos from the Van Consulate. I guess it just takes a long time. Incoming dual Prime Minister packages coming then I guess. lol
I literally cannot think of how he manages those mental gymnastics
I would say the same thing with trump but... here we are. And i wouldn't put it past canadians to be duped by another con man.
Yeah, it's a little simplistic of him to call them out when in reality it's a fracking project. Last I heard, they were still doing studies on the environmental/geological impact of it...
This would be the equivalent to Trump calling out Virginia for not opening new coal mines
cryptosporidium
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Its always been nice to see the federal cons at least pride themselves a tad on their women membership. hell Rona has a degree in gender studies if im not mistaken
Leitch is second now while Bernier slips to third: http://ipolitics.ca/2017/03/21/leitch-rises-bernier-slides-tory-leadership-poll/
What exactly is the appeal of Leitch? With other far-right wing nuts like Trump and Farage and La Pen, they at least have charisma, personality and authority.... but Leitch just comes off as extremely awkward every time she talks, she seems "faker" than Clinton if that makes any sense.
What exactly is the appeal of Leitch? With other far-right wing nuts like Trump and Farage and La Pen, they at least have charisma, personality and authority.... but Leitch just comes off as extremely awkward every time she talks, she seems "faker" than Clinton if that makes any sense.
Infinite Stars
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I know Conservatives in Alberta who wanted Ben Carson to be the President. They seem to think that "Surgeon" is somehow a path to being a good Politician.
KernelPanic
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How the fuck does Kevin O'Leary lead?
Because he's 'business-y' despite all evidence to the contrary.
I've literally tried explaining this to people, but they never listen.
Futurematic
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A lot of people spend their time in large Anglo-American corporations whose structure is similar to a feudal state with a CEO / King, a Board of Directors / Nobles, managers / minor aristocracy, and various serfs and slaves working with no or limited union protection.
No great leap for them to misunderstand democratic politics as a feudal relationship.
(Note that actual performance does not matter, Kings can have bad days.)
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The day Kevin is our PM is the day I'm moving to Nevis to stay with my retired buddy and drive a concrete truck.
He plays a successful businessman on TV, and is loud and obnoxious in a manner that many partisans find appealing.
Now, O'Leary also has high negatives, which matters in a ranked balloting scenario, so his first-round polling doesn't necessarily convey his odds as the lesser contenders are dropped.
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I heard a CPC strategist explain it this way last night: the bulk of Conservative members are white men over the aged of 60, and they've been waiting for years for a candidate to say the stuff Leitch has been saying. Now that they have that candidate, they're going for her, even if she's a terrible politician in pretty much every way imaginable.
I think the most interesting thing about the new poll is that O'Leary's accusations seem to have hurt Bernier without rebounding to O'Leary's benefit. Without being able to see the second/third/last choice numbers, it'd be really interesting if this drove up Bernier's negatives as well, because until now his last choice numbers were really low. If he's suddenly up in Leitch/O'Leary territory of being as objectionable as he is popular, that makes it harder for him to win. I still think he's the frontrunner thanks to Quebec's structural advantage in this race, but going from second/third to first becomes a lot harder if voters dislike him as much as the candidates ahead of him.
Name recognition. There are a lot of studies that show that voters will go for whoever they've heard of, even if it's in a negative context. In a field of 14 people, he has an advantage over a bunch of candidates no one outside of hardcore political junkies have ever heard of.
Of course, as Sean pointed out, his negatives dwarf everyone else's in the race. In a race that'll be determined by second/third/fourth choices -- because it's pretty much guaranteed this is going about 10 rounds -- being broadly hated by the electorate makes it almost impossible to go from 22% to 50%+1.
The attack ads write themselves: "She can't figure out mail merge. How can she figure out immigration?"
He was funny on Dragon's Den
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http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/most-canadians-favour-values-test-for-immigrants-while-23-per-cent-think-muslims-should-be-banned-poll
Some European countries have something equivalent to a values test in many ways, just as part of a citizenship process rather than immigration, so it's not exactly something new. The thinking of the vast majority of those survey takers, and possibly a rather large portion of Canadians, is that if you were to somehow fail that test, you likely have very strong feelings against some socially liberal value that most Canadians hold, which gives the idea of that sort of test much broader appeal across ethnic and age groups than you may expect if you didn't bother to ask Canadians.
I find it hard to believe the number is anywhere near 74 percent but as we all know you only need 35-40 percent of voters to win a general election.
Kenney also criticized my former MLA thomas lukaszuk at one point during an appearance on the ryanjespersen show earlier today and said that he had a temper tantrum because he left the PCAA because kenney was now leading it. The castledowns PCAA association also gave a huge amount of money to charity recently.Even though I don't like some of the things lukaszuk has done in the past I appreciate that he's not scared of criticizing Kenney.
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